Sequels X-Men Sequel - Part 1

[psylockolussus]

Unlike Jackman both fassbender and lawrence bring nothing as far as appeal.

So much for those recent Oscar nominations and headlining other recent movies.

I guess the public wants someone else to appear in these X-Men movies like I do.

 

[marvelrobbins]

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[psylockolussus]

except after dofp they aren't really prequels anymore inless you want to call X_men films prequels to DOFP future ending.they are not in contunity with original trilogy and don't lead into them.

It has been as clear as day what fox's plan is since 2014 focus on younger cast.

Like you said many times, it still doesn't make it a right direction for the series especially it only led to Apocalypse's not getting much buzz because it was with the prequel cast/younger version again.

And Bryan calls these prequels - inbetweens.

Now if we get an inbetween movie between Dofp and Logan featuring the beloved original cast, would I want that? Probably no. The story should be moving forward and not constantly tell what already happened in the past. Unless the X-Men are as big as Star Wars. Well not even close. That's why I hate that they killed the X-Men again in the future period. We already know their end game. Who really wants to see Jean become the Phoenix again when she is already dead in the future? The fans of the actors? I guess. There's no stake with these movies set in the past/pre-Logan.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

Leo's right in many ways.

And for my latest prediction....











Singer will be back for X7 as Director (sigh/ugh/argh/groan)

 

[marvelrobbins]

You can't talk for everyone in that respect.



You mean like Rogue One, Han Solo and every other film they are making?



This franchise has changed, its been going on for 16 years, the sub-basement is the same one we see 16 years ago, its very much the same franchise even now.

But thing is Comic book movies have evolved around the franchise so no one is gonna see X-Men how they used too in the early 2000's, infact i kinda feel like hugh jackman also isn't as appreciated in the role as he used to be in the early 2000s.



Bikini,Boots and Sash certainly screams fierce

as far as box office yes i can say that about fassbender and lawrence.The wolverine did very well despite poor promation by fox and bad release date
with only one thing going for it-Jackman.

too many people nowadays only care about colorful costumes,charater having un,and jokes.COnsider spider-man homecoming trailer vs rami trilogy.there is nothing in that trilair to suggest anything is hard for peter parker.DC films are pathetic compared to where they once were.

As long as fox continues to make X-Men films and not just hand them to
Disney people online will crap on them.They can't even give fox credit for deadpool.DOFP best revieved film in series and biggest X-men film ever WW
is treated like nothing and it just came out in 2014.

 

[psylockolussus]

And for my latest prediction....











Singer will be back for X7 as Director (sigh/ugh/argh/groan)

His redemption story, basically.

 

[marvelrobbins]

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[psylockolussus]

.DOFP best revieved film in series and biggest X-men film ever WW
is treated like nothing and it just came out in 2014.

Not true. It's my favorite movie of 2014.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

too many people nowadays only care about colorful costumes,charater having un,and jokes.

Will it be the end of the world to give X-Men proper fits for at least one movie? There's been 6 movies without them. X1-X6 won't magically go away if X-Men are giving correct attire finally.

DOFP best revieved film in series and biggest X-men film ever WW
is treated like nothing and it just came out in 2014.

DoFP without Kitty as the main character didn't really interest me.

And the aftermath of having to stick to the new timeline ending makes me despise it even more. Should've just had a sequel about Xavier, Havok, Banshee, Emma, etc instead


The trailers and promo tricked the uninitiated into thinking their favorite X-Men actually contributed to the plot but they weren't fooled with X6 hence the drop at the BO (plus Ivan Ooze)

 

[GuestStar2004]

as far as box office yes i can say that about fassbender and lawrence.The wolverine did very well despite poor promation by fox and bad release date

The promotion was fine, infact it probably felt more like X-Men marketing then Logan has been getting with also having connections to X3 (if thats a good thing).

 

[psylockolussus]

too many people nowadays only care about colorful costumes,charater having un,and jokes.

So why Green Lantern and Suicide Squad got bad reviews? Never mind good story telling and faithful adaptation.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Singer probably isn't directing the next movie because he is directing the freddie mercury film, i dunno when that is filming but Singer probably won't be able to put full time into the next X-Men movie.

 

[marvelrobbins]

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[psylockolussus]

I an gonna repeat myself like you always do. Like you said many times, it still doesn't make it a right direction for the series especially it only led to Apocalypse's not getting much buzz because it was with the prequel cast/younger version again. And I am not referring to fans but the Ga. And Bryan calls these prequels - inbetweens.

 

[2kt09]

Only Because we don't know how many new characters will Supernova feature. Again, Shi'ar Empire is massive. It is not just a dozen of aliens.

Like I said as much as it takes to do a good movie or trilogy if that's where this is headed.

I should add the major focus should remain on those returning characters because writing and developing 9 is tasking as is,
even in breaking them into smaller groups.

 

[psylockolussus]

Like I said as much as it takes to do a good movie or trilogy if that's where this is headed.

Yeah a bigger budget is also probably required for them to do that.

 

[marvelrobbins]

So why Green Lantern and Suicide Squad got bad reviews? Never mind good story telling and faithful adaptation.

Surcide squad made money which is all WB cares about.director of surcide squad is even doing gotham city sirens.SS has even worse ratings than apocalypse.and green lantern is just bad movie.

 

[2kt09]

Yeah a bigger budget is also probably required for them to do that.

Nope.

 

[henzINNIT]

except after dofp they aren't really prequels anymore

They are though. By all accounts, they function exactly as prequels do. The unusual continuity situation blurs the lines, but outside of confusing the general audience it makes little difference.

Too many people nowadays only care about colorful costumes,charater having un,and jokes.

If the X-Men series nailed details like costumes at some point in the past 17 years then maybe people would move on. The tease at the end of Apocalypse is decent progress but arguably not enough by now.

I am a huge fan of Singer's X-Men universe (when it is good, anyway) but I can fully understand the frustrations of fans who don't feel the series is reaching its potential. There's a ton of wasted characters and stories left behind, and while I'd argue that Singer can make a film good enough that it doesn't matter, we could be at a point where the films are as good AND more accurate.

O/T - Homecoming looks potentially great to me. Parker looks like an actual kid, at an actual school. Feels like it is going to nail the John Hughes tone they are going for. I saw some emotional stakes in the trailer too, and Keaton looks quite intimiating. It probably won't dethrone my beloved Raimi series, but I'm optimistic.

 

[Legion]

baby grott or harley quin is what people want?really.

fact there is nothing in deadpool that connects it to avengers but there is connection to X-Men should be the big tipoff it's not a marvel studios production.

You seem to be missing the point.

 

[marvelrobbins]

They are though. By all accounts, they function exactly as prequels do. The unusual continuity situation blurs the lines, but outside of confusing the general audience it makes little difference.



If the X-Men series nailed details like costumes at some point in the past 17 years then maybe people would move on. The tease at the end of Apocalypse is decent progress but arguably not enough by now.

I am a huge fan of Singer's X-Men universe (when it is good, anyway) but I can fully understand the frustrations of fans who don't feel the series is reaching its potential. There's a ton of wasted characters and stories left behind, and while I'd argue that Singer can make a film good enough that it doesn't matter, we could be at a point where the films are as good AND more accurate.

O/T - Homecoming looks potentially great to me. Parker looks like an actual kid, at an actual school. Feels like it is going to nail the John Hughes tone they are going for. I saw some emotional stakes in the trailer too, and Keaton looks quite intimiating. It probably won't dethrone my beloved Raimi series, but I'm optimistic.

prequels are suspose to led into original.the films now clearly can't.star wars prequels,underworld rise of the lycans even enterprise and prometheus/alien:Covenent

since first class the films have been moving in direction of colorful costumes.In apocalypse the horseman had colorful costumes and X-men themselves had graduated to them at end of film.now while supernova may change them very doudtful the idea of colorful costumes will be dropped.

with spider-man i strongly disagree.spider-man is my second favorate comic book property after X-men and batman is my third favorate.just as i can say surcide squad sucks.to a point i will defend snyder with regards to batman In BVS since he did very much a batman based on the dark knight returns.his take on superman though sucks.with regards to surcide squad as major batman surcide squad take on joker and harley quinn sucked.i don't like Lawrence's mystique much in apocalypse but surcide squad is worse.with spider-man it seems they are just sticking names of comic book characters on randomly cast actors.I see nothing that indicates any hardship with peter parker.disney/marvel doesn't seem from trailers to get humor with psider-man comes from quiping when he battles villains but when mask is off things often look bleek and hard for him.and of course they had to force stark into film and he provides suit and most of equipment.Of course sony likely gets the first 1 billion dollor spider-man film with stark but sacrifice a lot with spider-man for old timers like me.I know since 2014 many seem to only care about spider-man quiping with stark and interacting with other marvel heroes.with deadpool writers saying they want to maintain a silly tone for films with deadpool i am fine with X-Men never interacting with deadpool.

Fox may take X-men into outer space in supernove to see if that can create more intrest but doudtful it will be as humoras as say GOTG.

 

[C. Lee]

I have a question.....is it possible for you guys to discuss this without a dozen reports coming in complaining about what each other says?

And to one of the reporters....if someone is consently saying something about you....it means they have your permission to do that.

 

[x-er]

I agree with this. Around the office I can hear people mentioning how they went to go see or wanted to see Deadpool, Civil War, BvS, and Suicide Squad but not a single mention of X-Men Apocalypse...
I've even seen people mistakenly associate Deadpool with Marvel studios. It's like if it's good then it must be from Marvel.

Here is an example in this Esquire article:

http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/news/a52396/new-logan-wolverine-trailer/

Anyone would. Marvel's logo sequence in the film. Deadpool also enjoys a lot of marketing and merch. That's odd to me, seeing as it's Fox property, no? Anyway, if the GA are expecting Deadpool to appear in Avengers, Fox could benefit from that.

X-Men has that logo too. Difference is Marvel won't advertise them as much and, unlike Deadpool, they've been around long, but they haven't crossed over with Avengers. They're not even acknowledged to exist in their films, so, X-Men's pretty much counting on its own films only, which aren't getting "certified fresh" lately, unfortunately.

 

[x-er]

btw, yes, I'm still waiting to find my X-Men shirt at wal-mart, Marvel. Stop being such ***holes.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

I have a question.....is it possible for you guys to discuss this without a dozen reports coming in complaining about what each other says?

I was wondering if a Rebooted Fox Universe thread would be cool?

Some are highly against a reboot but I feel if we could talk about a reboot peacefully in a separate thread problems would lessen

btw, yes, I'm still waiting to find my X-Men shirt at wal-mart, Marvel. Stop being such ***holes.

I stick to buying the old stuff before the ban.... I wore this to Apocalypse (got a lot of compliments from x fans too). Supremely disappointed when I left the theater though.