Sequels X-Men Sequel - Part 2

[Kanon]

Kinberg as the top contender makes me think that nobody else wants to touch the main X-Men series

 

[Frankeh]

Eh I wouldn't go that far, the "team's humanity" was not a strong point in X1, unless you mean just Logan and Rogue, who I agree are the heart of the film, along with the ideology conflict between Xavier and Magneto. The relationship between teammates wasn't really fleshed out. We don't even get the sense that Storm is friends with any of them.

EDIT: WTF????? Let me go back on what I said. I have no interest in this anymore.

 

[psyonic]

Eh I wouldn't go that far, the "team's humanity" was not a strong point in X1, unless you mean just Logan and Rogue, who I agree are the heart of the film, along with the ideology conflict between Xavier and Magneto. The relationship between teammates wasn't really fleshed out. We don't even get the sense that Storm is friends with any of them.

I think a space adventure may actually feel fresh in this franchise. They can have "good" Phoenix in Supernova and then have her go "Dark" in the sequel. All I know is that battle of X-Men vs. Imperial Guard in the moon is something that could be the top battle in a CBM ever, as long as Singer isn't directing it.

How are they going to cram all the Jean going Dark, space, Imperial Guard, M'Krann into one true to the comics movie? I don't see it happening successfully. Apocalypse shouldn't have been just one movie arc either.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

So...was X-3 Brett Ratner's fault, then?

Zak Penn... He almost messed up Avengers too

Simon's original draft for X-3 was more faithful to the comics, so in the end, this may be a good thing.

Kinberg is basically going to do a better X3 with FC cast. Hopefully not in Space though.

And there goes whatever microscopic interest I might have had left in the X-men movies.

Comeback Movie of the Year in 2018

Apocalypse was also a big effects showcase and.. that's all we got, nothing more to it and with Kinberg's track record, this is not a good thing.

Singer isn't good for a Post Avenger's world. No Wolverine No Mystique No Magneto )Hopefully Xavier with a Fury sized role). This could be the best X-Men movie ever. More Lana I hope

Kinberg as the top contender makes me think that nobody else wants to touch the main X-Men series

Ding Ding Ding

Not without a reboot

That's all that needs to be said.

That just tells me he's a good solider.

 

[Frankeh]

Singer isn't good for a Post Avenger's world

Yeah and Kinberg's only directing credit is Fantastic Four

That's all that needs to be said.

Kinberg as the top contender makes me think that nobody else wants to touch the main X-Men series

Sad but true. Let's reboot this!

Kinberg reeks of Snyder with the DCEU.

 

[Steyin]

Ugh. Just ugh. There goes my optimism.

 

[Sithborg]

Kinberg as the top contender makes me think that nobody else wants to touch the main X-Men series

Eh, studio politics. It's how Orci almost got Star Trek.

 

[anthony1111]

I always though the Phoenix saga would work well in two parts to set up Jean's power like the comics did. Part 1 could have introduced the M'Kraan and Llandra and then the second film could introduce the dark Pheonix however in Apocalypse the force is already in Jean so I guess they could maybe they can just delve straight in with Dark Phoenix.

 

[CaptainCanada]

How are they going to cram all the Jean going Dark, space, Imperial Guard, M'Krann into one true to the comics movie? I don't see it happening successfully. Apocalypse shouldn't have been just one movie arc either.

Is there any storyline that people feel can be done in one movie now? They don't need any of the Phoenix Saga stuff, as Jean is already manifesting the Phoenix powers at the end of Apocalypse.

Kinberg as the top contender makes me think that nobody else wants to touch the main X-Men series

That's definitely not true. Big studio directing gigs like this are a draw; you're not going to get major auteurs, of course (not for anything with this degree of studio control), but FOX could have scooped up any number of indie directors looking to break in (which is increasingly the way studios handle superhero franchises).

Kinberg's already involved with the property, and if he's looking to direct, he's got the inside track on lobbying the studio heads.

 

[psyonic]

I welcome Vaughan back if he's available now that Kingsman 2 is done. Singer's Phoenix saga was meant to be a two parter. His version of X3 allegedly ended with Jean leaving Earth then returning in X4 from space as Dark Phoenix.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

Is there any storyline that people feel can be done in one movie now?
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Cyclops, Beast, Nightcrawler, Phoenix, Storm, Quicksilver, Jubilee vs Mk III or IV Kirbyish Looking Sentinel's is a great start IMO X-MEN: Second Genesis or Mutant Genesis or something similar.

I welcome Vaughan back if he's available now that Kingsman 2 is done.

His portrayal of the female characters in First Class was kinda poor imo.

 

[Serpico Jones]

Jeff Sneider dismissed the Kinberg report, says he's not the choice.

 

[Serpico Jones]

Borys Kit says Kinberg does have some directing experience, he had to step in to "manage" Fantastic Four and X-Men Apocalypse. He made it sound like Apocalypse was a troubled set.

 

[psylockolussus]

Oh dear, Kinberg directing this? It is really gonna be a disaster of supernova proportions! Though if this tank so hardly (quality wise) this would be a quick exit for him as the series' golden boy. I m just happy this isn't happening for an Ot cast film and X-Force.

 

[Ryan1210]

FF: it wasn't his script and it was the last minute decision from Fox. So unless they hired Cameron or someone similar FF would still tank anyway.

X-Men: Supernova: it will be his script & I don't know, maybe Fox will give him freedom just like Mangold or Miller. Singer will be attached as producer in some way. Maybe Kinberg will surprise us.

 

[Lip]

I haven't been reading too much about the movies lately. Are they really doing Dark Phoenix next movie? Is that confirmed?

Because Jesus, that sucks. Last movie, Scott and Jean weren't even dating. Give them the god damn time to be developed. As individuals and as a couple.

Give time (and story) for the audience to care about these characters first. The Phoenix Saga won't have the impact it should if there is little or no emotional connection to the characters.

And why the hell Jean can't be just Jean? What is wrong with that?

And Kinberg both writing and directing? Geez...

 

[psylockolussus]

I liked Trank's vision for Fantastic Four. Fox should have just let finish His work instead of letting Kinberg practice his skills as a director (I am sure he sucks at it more than writing lol). Like Human Torch were supposed to help Reed to go back to Planet Zero because you know according to his daddy he can do anything with his hand ala X-Men's Forge but a lot of scenes were scrapped for whatever reason.

 

[Zarex]

Trank's FFINO would have been a disaster regardless of who ended up finishing it.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Thing some aren't getting is this is dark phoenix.this means they are doing film where jean loses control.also phoenix in films has always been based more
on ultimate version of phoenix.

if they do true to comics on dark phoenix where a villain is able to turn jean against X-men but this eventully causes her to lose control.

a good dark phoenix film has poential to have some dramatic stuff.just imagine after Xavier needing jean's help usrging her to let go in apocalypse now he has
to engage in mental battle with her.Problem is i am not sure Kinberg is the one
who can bring it to life.

 

[Frankeh]

I read an article at birthmoviesdeath that Jeremy Slater's original script for the Fantastic Four reboot was splashy and comic-booky and had Dr. Doom as a dictator in Latveria. It was a bit cluttered but it could've certainly been a crowdpleaser.

I don't know who to blame for the complete overhaul that they did once they hired Trank. The funny thing is that decision came back to bite them in the ass when they didn't like what Trank was doing with the film.

 

[psylockolussus]

Trank's FFINO would have been a disaster regardless of who ended up finishing it.

Sure. But it would still be interesting if they used all those shots directed by Trank. Most of the scenes in the first trailer weren't used for the final version of the film. I still don't get why they had to remove Thing's scene jumping from the jet,that flows better with the eight month gap.

Like most reviewers said, after the eight month gap, it felt like the studio stepped in and it suddenly felt like a different film which just hurt the movie even more.

 

[Sithborg]

Borys Kit says Kinberg does have some directing experience, he had to step in to "manage" Fantastic Four and X-Men Apocalypse. He made it sound like Apocalypse was a troubled set.

I'm sure that he has been using his producer role as a way to apprentice as a director.

 

[psyonic]

Borys Kit says Kinberg does have some directing experience, he had to step in to "manage" Fantastic Four and X-Men Apocalypse. He made it sound like Apocalypse was a troubled set.

And both were bad movies..

 

[Zarex]

Sure. But it would still be interesting if they used all those shots directed by Trank. Most of the scenes in the first trailer weren't used for the final version of the film. I still don't get why they had to remove Thing's scene jumping from the jet,that flows better with the eight month gap.

Like most reviewers said, after the eight month gap, it felt like the studio stepped in and it suddenly felt like a different film which just hurt the movie even more.

I would agree that the film went completely off the rails after the eight month break. I'm just not sure it was salvageable before that point.

 

[psylockolussus]

I would agree that the film went completely off the rails after the eight month break. I'm just not sure it was salvageable before that point.

The first half wasn't fantastic but it wasnt that bad. I think a lot of potential and build up were wasted with the second half which just disappointed everybody.

I just think Johnny and his he can do anything with his hand side arc then ending up building the fantastic car sounds fantastic, that would have given more purpose instead of just being a hot head to Sue and Franklin.