88th Annual Academy Awards - Part 2

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Leo didn't deserve it. His performance in The Revenant wasn't anything THAT special. Throw any actor in those environmental conditions and, yeah, you get basically the same result. It wasn't a performance, it was a new-agey-living-in-a-box-and-not-eating kind of magic trick. On the other hand, you had Matt Damon basically carrying a 2-hour film on his talent and charisma alone, going through every possible emotion in the spectrum and pulling it off effortlessly. Now that's a performance. Leo should've won for The Wolf of Wall Street, but not this dud. And don't get me started with the Best Director thing. Iñárritu has now two awards thanks to Lubezki, the real MVP here.

I can't comment on Leo's performance because I haven't seen it but thankyou for giving Damon's performance the credit it deserves. What Damon did was not easy and not every actor can so effortlessly carry a film that well.

 

[superboy13]

I can't comment on Leo's performance because I haven't seen it but thankyou for giving Damon's performance the credit it deserves. What Damon did was not easy and not every actor can so effortlessly carry a film that well.

Don't get me wrong, Leo isn't, by any stretch of the imagination, bad. But, out of the finalists, I don't think he was the one giving the best performance.

But how did we even expect Damon to stand a chance when Hollywood considers The Martian a f'ing comedy?!

 

[CaptainCanada]

Why is it always the responsibility of black people that we have to be the ones to go to bat for every other minority?

It's not the responsibility of "black people" in general. Chris Rock is the host, and, as he himself admitted, had to respond to the controversy around the lack of diversity. I quite liked his hosting overall, but his reducing it to under-representation of black actors was not helpful (particularly since, if you want to dig into the numbers, black actors are actually much better-represented than Hispanics or especially Asians; there's only been one Asian Oscar winner for acting).

 

[Schlosser85]

I thought Damon was fine, but not really exceptional, and it didn't really jump out at me as Oscar contender material. Some people called it his best performance, but to me his performance in Good Will Hunting was far more Oscar-worthy.

I pretty much agree about DiCaprio though. I mean, he was fine, but it wasn't really about acting, it was about us watching him put himself through the ringer on camera. The other nominees did more actual acting. For that matter, the other actors in The Revenant did more acting.

Although Tom Hardy deserved a nom for Legend way more than The Revenant, IMO, even if the movie itself wasn't anything special.

 

[Drz]

Everyone knows Leo didn't deserve the Oscar, it was his lifetime achievement award and he won't be winning a new Oscar in a looong long time.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'd take Damon's performance in The Martian over Fassbender's in Steve Jobs.

 

[superboy13]

I'd take Damon's performance in The Martian over Fassbender's in Steve Jobs.

And Cranston's in Trumbo. I can't comment on Redmayne, since I haven't seen The Danish Girl, but it was pretty obvious they weren't gonna give it to him two years in a row, especially since he was going up against Leo (again) and there was a whole PR campaign building Leo the second he lost last year. I kinda feel bad for the guy, 'cause he KNOWS he didn't win because he was the best, but it was all basically one big internet meme.

 

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

Some underappreciate Damon because he's subtle and doesn't chew the scenery with overly mannered performances. The great Jeff Bridges was similar twenty + years ago. He was always as good as DeNiro , Pacino, Hoffman, etc., but didn't get the recognition because you could never see him act and he was too handsome in the era that gave birth to the anti-hero.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

And Cranston's in Trumbo. I can't comment on Redmayne, since I haven't seen The Danish Girl, but it was pretty obvious they weren't gonna give it to him two years in a row, especially since he was going up against Leo (again) and there was a whole PR campaign building Leo the second he lost last year. I kinda feel bad for the guy, 'cause he KNOWS he didn't win because he was the best, but it was all basically one big internet meme.

Don't feel bad for Leo, he was thirsty as all get out for that Oscar. He doesn't care why he got it.

 

[Schlosser85]

I'd take Damon's performance in The Martian over Fassbender's in Steve Jobs.

I'd put Fassbender over Damon for their respective nominated performances. I might put them both over Leo though.

 

[Schlosser85]

Don't feel bad for Leo, he was thirsty as all get out for that Oscar. He doesn't care why he got it.

Yea, people make fun of Redmayne for being an Oscar chaser, but Leo's been doing it just as hardcore for longer than Redmayne's even been around.

 

[Quasimod0]

So what would you guys rate this year's Academy Awards on a scale of one to ten?

 

[Doctor Jones]

I'm not sad Sly didn't win. A) He'll always be Rocky Balboa which is better than any stupid Oscar and B) it was never about winning for Rocky Balboa as a character anyway. He's still the underdog.

Plus Mark Rylance gave my favorite speech so I'm not complaining there.

But the more I think about this broadcast, the more horrible it was. These people have no perspective. All of these people are more ignorant than they think and really are just as bad... and they don't know it. Oh, but they have good intentions! Good intentions mean jack **** if there's no results. Because if they clap it makes them feel good about themselves because they approve! If they really wanted to create change, just don't go to the Oscars or hijack the telecast. Or hell, go on strike and make demands from studios if you want fast results. Execs can't do without such big stars at such short notice. They really have the second most power in the industry. But that would take actual work... and God forbid, might take work away from them! It's really was just a disgusting spectacle last night.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

It would kind of funny if Leo announced he was going to retire to the Caribbean today.

I seriously question if he'll be motivated as a thespian after this win.

 

[chaseter]

So did we agree or disagree that Hollywood is racist?

 

[Schlosser85]

I'm not sad Sly didn't win. A) He'll always be Rocky Balboa which is better than any stupid Oscar and B) it was never about winning for Rocky Balboa as a character anyway. He's still the underdog.

Plus Mark Rylance gave my favorite speech so I'm not complaining there.

But the more I think about this broadcast, the more horrible it was. These people have no perspective. All of these people are more ignorant than they think and really are just as bad... and they don't know it. Oh, but they have good intentions! Good intentions mean jack **** if there's no results. Because if they clap it makes them feel good about themselves because they approve! If they really wanted to create change, just don't go to the Oscars or hijack the telecast. Or hell, go on strike and make demands from studios if you want fast results. Execs can't do without such big stars at such short notice. They really have the second most power in the industry. But that would take actual work... and God forbid, might take work away from them! It's really was just a disgusting spectacle last night.

Its their profession. They're not obligated to care about appeasing social justice warriors.

 

[superboy13]

It would kind of funny if Leo announced he was going to retire to the Caribbean today.

I seriously question if he'll be motivated as a thespian after this win.

I think this might free him up to chase a different kind of role. Something like Jack Nicholson in Anger Management, or De Niro in Meet the Parents. I'd like to see him in something like that next.

 

[Schlosser85]

Yea, he might loosen up a little after this, which he hasn't really done unless you count The Wolf of Wall Street (where he was totally gunning for an Oscar fast and hard) or Django Unchained.

 

[Schlosser85]

So did we agree or disagree that Hollywood is racist?

There is favoritism toward white conventionally attractive leading men and women, and it is substantially more difficult for people of color to break into the industry, and far fewer substantial roles for them, but that's not just Hollywood's doing. It's supply and demand. Audiences are partially responsible for this too.

 

[superboy13]

Yea, he might loosen up a little after this, which he hasn't really done unless you count The Wolf of Wall Street (where he was totally gunning for an Oscar fast and hard) or Django Unchained.

He went for both of those roles fully knowing they were Oscar material. Django maybe a little less so, but it was still there. There was no way he'd do another Titanic or Inception at that time, for example.

 

[SuperT]

Its their profession. They're not obligated to care about appeasing social justice warriors.

So basically the minority actors and actresses that are literally going on tv pointing out racism and telling Hollywood we want the same opportunities as white actors and actresses should just go to hell?

 

[Schlosser85]

No, I'm just saying that everybody isn't obligated to boycott the most prestigious awards ceremony of their chosen profession.

If somebody wants to boycott in protest, that's their prerogative. It's also their prerogative to just opt-out of the behind the scenes political controversies and just show up to the awards show.

 

[SuperT]

No, I'm just saying that everybody isn't obligated to boycott the most prestigious awards ceremony of their chosen profession.

If somebody wants to boycott in protest, that's their prerogative. It's also their prerogative to just opt-out of the behind the scenes political controversies and just show up to the awards show.

That's absolutely fair. I'm black and I still watched.

 

[Donner]

Why are people saying that Leo is an Oscar chaser? Is it because he chooses movies to act in that are actually good and not crappy rom com movies? I really can't see the justification for hating on a guy that likes to play serious parts instead of funny ones. Everyone has their niche.

I think he's a terrific actor and he owns the parts that he plays.

 

[Boom]

I'm hoping next year's Best Actor crop is better.