All Things Superman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 27

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  1. Mad Love

    Mad Love The Future of Justice

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    How dare you lump STM with SR!
     
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  2. ThePhantasm

    ThePhantasm 2 sexy 4 a stormtrooper

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    To this I have only a few things to say:

    1. MOS is a new Superman movie. It will be obviously compared to what has come before, just like any reboot ever has. And its valid to make such comparisons.

    2. I was pretty heavily involved in this discussion. And I love Superman Returns. I think I've praised the film on SHH more often than I've critiqued it. So just casting me as some hater who enjoys bashing the film at every opportunity is a quick way of straw manning one side without paying attention to any nuances in the discussion.

    3. Showtime's most recent comment doesn't really reflect the course of the conversation at all. We weren't comparing MOS as a whole with SR as a whole. That's an over simplification of the comparison that was made.
     
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  3. The Batman

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    Why not? Everyone else does. :cwink:

    Sorry man, I'm not gonna pull out a magnifying glass to inspect the minutia of the 7 billionth time you guys have decided to bring up Superman Returns. Honestly, there may be some merit to what you're saying, but bringing up SR once again is just the continuation of what I feel is beating a dead horse.

    I was here during the BB days, and I'm pretty sure we Batfans didnt constantly bring up B & R the way people bring up SR. I came here hoping for something new or at least an interesting convo, and there goes SR being brought up...again.
     
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  4. hopefuldreamer

    hopefuldreamer Clark Kent > Superman

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    Not seeing what bashing OR praising SR or STM has to do with logic...

    It would be illogical to refrain from ever bringing them up. All interpretations get compared. STM, SR and MOS will be compared, just like Golden Age, Silver age and Post Crisis interpretations always are. And when you favour one over the other, it's not wrong to express that.

    Yes, MOS is not out yet. But all people are discussing is their hopes, their feelings SO FAR, and the reasons why they have those feelings...

    ... and the majority of us are doing it in a completely logical way :whatever:
     
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  5. ThePhantasm

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    "You guys?" I can't remember the last time before this that I ever compared these two films. Thanks for lumping me in with whoever you have problems with though.

    I'm tired of anytime I make any critique or comparison of any kind on these boards someone jumps all over me. Sheesh.

    And if you aren't going to "inspect" the conversation before making sweeping statements about everyone involved, maybe you should just... I dunno... not comment on the conversation at all? Your critiques of the convo had little to do with its actual content and you justify that with "well its just the same conversation it always is so I don't have to read it closely."
     
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  6. ConnorKon-El

    ConnorKon-El Amateur Film Nerd

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    Welcome to any fan forum on the internet
     
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  7. STARMAN

    STARMAN Rebel With A Cause

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    I think there is alot of bitterness toward Superman Returns because some people waited 19 years for it. I didn't. I wasn't born yet. But there was a lot of built-up excitement which led to a huge disapointment to most.

    I, myself, don't like Superman Returns but I have no problem with people that do.
     
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  8. Mysteryman

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    Not everything on that list is guaranteed to be in the film.
     
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  9. Mysteryman

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    Agreed.
     
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  10. ThePhantasm

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    So I was rewatching the MOS trailer just now, and I'm wondering... who all will know about Clark's powers? We hear in a voiceover someone telling the Kent's "my son was in the bus... he saw what Clark did." I wonder what effect that will have on the story? Will these people simply be silent out of gratitude for Clark rescuing them?
     
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  11. hopefuldreamer

    hopefuldreamer Clark Kent > Superman

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    Which parts?
     
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    Dragon_316ca Well-Known Member

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    https://twitter.com/Poni_Boy/status/303644476516208641
    On Cavill:
     
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  13. Mysteryman

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    I dont know,
    but it is an unreleased film.
    Nobody here has seen a Final Cut .
     
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  14. The Batman

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    You're quite welcome, buddy. :o
     
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  15. Wheels

    Wheels Eat my shorts

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    Ouch. Those comments on Cavill don't exactly fill me with confidence.
     
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  17. LibidoLoca

    LibidoLoca Sensually Delicious

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    Sounds like Cavill is going to give the decent to bad for some performance some of us expected.
     
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  18. hopefuldreamer

    hopefuldreamer Clark Kent > Superman

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    No... but we've had information confirming everything on that list. Interviews, footage, pictures etc...
     
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  19. Torrente

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    Since I was the one with the whole "romance" comment I do want to say I meant more in regards to
    the kiss between supes and Lois in the comic con trailer, looks VERY passionate
     
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  20. STARMAN

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    Who is this Pietro guy?

    He says it seems many found Cavill's performance lacking.
     
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  21. ConnorKon-El

    ConnorKon-El Amateur Film Nerd

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  22. The Batman

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    At least in Bale's case, he was getting props for Batman Begins.

    If this is to be believed, Both daddy and the villain are gonna steal the show.

    This is an example of how SR overbashing on every level is silly before watching MOS. For all we know, Cavill could be on the same level as Routh, just in a (hopefully) more successful film.
     
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  23. hopefuldreamer

    hopefuldreamer Clark Kent > Superman

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    LibidoLoca Sensually Delicious

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    As long as the film's successful. ;)
     
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  25. ConnorKon-El

    ConnorKon-El Amateur Film Nerd

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