All Things Superman: An Open Discussion - Part 3

[DorkyFresh]

the acting in Snyder's movies is sufficient. there is plenty of emotion from his actors/actresses. he just doesn't know how to set up the scenes for maximum emotional impact.

 

[dark_b]

That's a lie.

i meant that when you see good acting in hes movie its because of the actor .

i know that it sounds crazy.

i liked watchmen for what it was. but there are some scenes that were bad and out of place.scenes that a director in hes position should not have.

 

[DorkyFresh]

Scan from a recent Production Weekly:

did anyone notice the scenes they were shooting? one of them says "funeral"...

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

Is that the production timeline from a few months ago?

 

[dark_b]

-8 months of filming
-6 months of post production

hahahahahh please stop them. this is just to funny.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

Is that the production timeline from a few months ago?

Yes.

 

[DorkyFresh]

8 months of filming is quite a while. 6 months of post production is pretty short for a special effects heavy blockbuster.

 

[afan]

Here's Newsarama's "10 Things We Want in SUPERMAN Reboot MAN OF STEEL" - http://www.newsarama.com/comics/10-things-we-want-in-man-of-steel-110620.html


Most (especially the origin and the score) is pretty spot on when looking at it logically considering it IS a reboot.

But damn, there are so many aspects to consider here, all of it important to the movie. I hope they're doing their research properly as well as putting it all together into something that makes sense.

Nice list.

In re. to the "globe trotting" point...I totally agree...IF....the globe trotting features Clark..and perhaps other characters(Lois, Jimmy..etc.). I don't want to see a global Superman...in that he can be in Metropolis one second and in Japan the next.

When due to Clark et al being on assignment in a foreign land Superman also happens to makes an appearance, I want the locals to be in awe and somewhat skeptical.

 

[Stephen K. Hone]

did anyone notice the scenes they were shooting? one of them says "funeral"...

For some reason this looks fan made. Read the line about Clark having to "attain" an assassin. Attain?? How about detain? If this is from WB or a casting agency, then they have people that are borderline illiterate writing press releases, or at the very least possess a limited vocabulary.

 

[WeasleyIsRKing]

If we go by those standards for Superman, then we have exactly what Jor-el wanted for Superman in the Donner Era, which in my honest opinion, is too much to ask for considering how the character has changed in the comics since then.

If my memory serves me correct, given how Superman has been written within the last 2-3 decades (where Clark is the predominant Persona), although Superman may appear god like, he was still raised with the mindset of a human being.

One of his most notable issues that he’s struggled with in life has always been his feeling of loneliness, of being the last of his kind and not really having someone to talk to when he was growing up who he could truly relate with. Then there’s the fear that I’m sure a lot of us have felt that Superman has been known to have, and that is the fear of ending up alone in life.

Sure, he doesn’t worry about things like meeting his bills and rent on time like a lot of us do, but he can get frustrated over the some of same things that we do as well; heck, as much as Clark loves Lois or respects Batman/WW, they all end up frustrating him at times with their antics.

I also remember reading a issue where Clark was stressed about meeting a deadline for a article due to having to work and balance it out with his heroic duties as well.

And I’m sure that prior towards becoming Superman, that like all of us have asked ourselves, he had wondered on what or who he would end up becoming in life when he was growing up, especially with powers like his and how he’d fit in society.

I agree herolee10. Its the why. The question that drives us. Why does Supes chose to do what he does. Which is why I loved Batman Begins. Explained the why. Hopefully MoS does this as well.

 

[dark_b]

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[Ita-KalEl]

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3188&p=.htm

not even a word about MOS...

 

[HighFivingMF]

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3188&p=.htm

not even a word about MOS...

Then why post it here?

 

[Marvin]

Mos has Russel Crowe, Returns had a hologram. automatic box office success.
looks like we're in the clear boys!

 

[SuperAl]

i meant that when you see good acting in hes movie its because of the actor .

i know that it sounds crazy.

i liked watchmen for what it was. but there are some scenes that were bad and out of place.scenes that a director in hes position should not have.

so when its good its because of the actor and when its bad its synders fault, come on now that makes no sense. Its a combination of both no matter who the director is.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Here's Newsarama's "10 Things We Want in SUPERMAN Reboot MAN OF STEEL" - http://www.newsarama.com/comics/10-things-we-want-in-man-of-steel-110620.html


Most (especially the origin and the score) is pretty spot on when looking at it logically considering it IS a reboot.

But damn, there are so many aspects to consider here, all of it important to the movie. I hope they're doing their research properly as well as putting it all together into something that makes sense.

I agree with it.

 

[Herolee10]

I wonder if we'll know all of the major cast members/character from the Superman mythology involved in this film by the time Mid July arrives?

Given the fact that they start Filming in August, you'd think that we would know on who'd be playing characters like: Lara, Jimmy, Perry, etc.

 

[Motown Marvel]

Here's Newsarama's "10 Things We Want in SUPERMAN Reboot MAN OF STEEL" - http://www.newsarama.com/comics/10-things-we-want-in-man-of-steel-110620.html


Most (especially the origin and the score) is pretty spot on when looking at it logically considering it IS a reboot.

But damn, there are so many aspects to consider here, all of it important to the movie. I hope they're doing their research properly as well as putting it all together into something that makes sense.

cant disagree with too much of that there.

 

[El Payaso]

i meant that when you see good acting in hes movie its because of the actor .

i know that it sounds crazy.

i liked watchmen for what it was. but there are some scenes that were bad and out of place.scenes that a director in hes position should not have.

Not crazy at all. I have always got the impression that the acting is only as good as the actor is and the narrative/story as good as the script is, in Snyder movies. But yes, the hand of the director is mostly superficial.

He's got good performances but nothing extraordinary.

so when its good its because of the actor and when its bad its synders fault, come on now that makes no sense. Its a combination of both no matter who the director is.

Absolutely. It's all the result of a combination of forces. If someone else had been the director the acting would have been better.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

so when its good its because of the actor and when its bad its synders fault, come on now that makes no sense. Its a combination of both no matter who the director is.

I agree, people keep making this strange arguement and it makes no sense at all to me.

I think the acting in Snyder's films has been fine... I've never noticed a problem with it.

 

[dark_b]

Mos has Russel Crowe, Returns had a hologram. automatic box office success.
looks like we're in the clear boys!

Marvin are you joking that because of Crowe MOS will make money?

 

[Herolee10]

I wonder if more fans would feel more confident with Snyder's abilities if he hadn't released, let alone created Sucker Punch before MOS? I mean, I'd imagined that one of the reasons why his skills as a director is coming to doubt is because of the poor reception and performance of his last film?

 

[dark_b]

I wonder if more fans would feel more confident with Snyder's abilities if he hadn't released, let alone created Sucker Punch before MOS? I mean, I'd imagined that one of the reasons why his skills as a director is coming to doubt is because of the poor reception and performance of his last film?

MOS will be a VERY different movie then Sucker Punch. i saw what Snyder can do with the zombie movie. with WB having Snyder on the leash i calm.

that said Sucker Punch was a mistake.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

I'd agree with you, that maybe Snyder should have tried more grounded projects first... But I kind of feel like 'no, he can do whatever type of films he want, as long as he gets MOS right'.

The only thing that worries me with Snyder is that he'll go too dark. And it's not helped by Nolan and Goyer being in the mix because Batman's world is dark.

It's not that I don't think the 'world' should be presented as a harsh and gritty place. But Metropolis isn't Gotham, and Superman isn't Dr Manhattan or Batman or half the other heroes who are full of anger and issues.

I feel like I can trust them to make a good film. But if it's too dark, if Superman comes across as some moody, god like figure, brooding in the shadows, if there's too much violence and not enough lightness and hope... Then it's just gonna end up settling in my mind as a cool AU story.

I suppose that's not so bad though. It worked for Star Trek, and it'd still be better than SR to me.

 

[Wheels]

Man of Steel being too dark is also my biggest worry. Most of the films these guys have worked are pretty grim. Snyder did that owl movie though, which was lighter in tone than his other films.