All Things Superman: An Open Discussion - - - - - Part 70

[DoomsdayApex]

Until something comes out stating otherwise, Chris Nolan helped polish the script, pitch the concept, offer ideas, and check up on the status of the film via email and phone.

Snyder did all the heavylifting.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

From a producing standpoint, Christopher Nolan focused on story and script issues, and Emma Thomas and Charles Roven were involved more with production issues since Nolan was busy filming The Dark Knight Rises.
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'Nuff said.

/Discussion.

 

[Manosman]

The way I see it, they are all on the same team. Frankly who cares who does what, as long as the movie is spectacular, then everyone benefits.

 

[Kevin Smith]

I don't think Nolan comes off pretentious at all in interviews. He's smart as hell and can probably talk circles around anyone when it comes to film, but he strikes me as pretty unpretentious and down to Earth actually. That, and he's one smooth, classy guy.

Nolan's a cool cat. I would never let the over the top praise of some of his fans get in the way of me liking the guy and really digging his style of writing and filmmaking. And his involvement in this movie is most definitely nothing but a positive.

I don't think he's necessarily "pretentious" all the time or tries to be for sure, certainly don't think that, but I do see how people could have that perception of him. I always thought he was okay. It's his fanatics I can't stand.

 

[DvilDog]

I'm not against Nolan or Nolan being given some of the credit. However, I hate when I see people giving more credit to Nolan than Snyder. I often see comments around the internet with people saying things similar "Nolan has created another masterpiece!" or "In Nolan we trust that this movie will succeed!" Regardless of how much involvement Nolan had, there is no way he did more work than Snyder.

Also, while I'm not against the amount of involvement Nolan has in MOS when it comes to the quality of the film itself, I do sometimes wish he had no involvement at all whenever I go on message boards like these. There are many people that try to claim that Nolan's involvement with MOS is evidence of TDKT and MOS taking place in the same universe or that a Batman reboot with no Nolan involvement whatsoever will automatically not fit in the same universe as MOS as well as TDKT would due to this.

Basically, it is more of a backlash towards the Nolanites than Nolan himself, as Kevin Smith said.

Fair enough. There will always be extremely...whats the word I'm looking for...extremist types that think that it can only be one way. Like I said earlier if Nolan has a ton of involvement in MOS and its awesome then great. If he didn't and its awesome that's also great.

I just want to be able to sit next to my kids and be like this is awesome!! And my kids look back at me and are like this is awesome!! I don't think that's too much to ask. So if Snyder did it great! If Nolan did it great! If Goyer did it.... well you get the idea!

 

[747]

Until something comes out stating otherwise, Chris Nolan helped polish the script, pitch the concept, offer ideas, and check up on the status of the film via email and phone.

Snyder did all the heavylifting.

I think the biggest influence of his when it comes to the actual movie is he and Goyer laying out the whole story.

His most important influence overall was calling Robinov.

 

[BatLobster]

I don't think he's necessarily "pretentious" all the time or tries to be for sure, certainly don't think that, but I do see how people could have that perception of him. I always thought he was okay. It's his fanatics I can't stand.

I could see how people would have that erroneous perception, sure.

A British accent goes a long way.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I truly love Nolan as a director and hate a big chunk of his fans. He is certainly. not to blame for his extreme fans behavior. I'm sorry but saying things like the joker should never be used in a live action film again because Ledger is dead is why some hate some of his fans.

I like Snyder as well, more than most, he deserves mad props for making MOS look so excellent and oh boy those action scenes...I can't wait.

 

[Kevin Smith]

I could see how people would have that erroneous perception, sure.

A British accent goes a long way.

Haha this is true, it's embedded in us americans to fear the british accent subconsciously. It's subconsciously synonymous with evil to us. lol. Sinister. :P

 

[Kevin Smith]

I truly love Nolan as a director and hate a big chunk of his fans. He is certainly. not to blame for his extreme fans behavior. I'm sorry but saying things like the joker should never be used in a live action film again because Ledger is dead is why some hate some of his fans.

That's the exact type of **** I'm talking about.

I like Snyder as well, more than most, he deserves mad props for making MOS look so excellent and oh boy those action scenes...I can't wait.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

I think the biggest influence of his when it comes to the actual movie is he and Goyer laying out the whole story.

His most important influence overall was calling Robinov.

Him and Goyer definitely left their biggest influence on the story, characters and dialogue. The rest screams out Snyder (for the most part any way).

Robinov didn't hesitate. "Genius!!!!"

 

[Mysteryman]

I am sure that after MOS is released, we will hear that Snyder had some influence on the story .

 

[Kevin Smith]

I think overall, based on what we have seen so far, this film seems to have the right balance of interaction on EVERYONE's behalf.

 

[Shikamaru]

Nolan sounds pretentious? I heavily disagree with that. I think he is one of the classiest directors currently in Hollywood. The man does a beautiful job at talking about films and specific parts of filming & directing. Or maybe it's just the accent combined with the voice. I also love the way he says "character" .

Plus, as much as he dissapointed me with TDKR, at least he came out and addressed those dissapointed with TDKR's ending from a professional point of view. He very much respected people's opinion of the film, even saying he can understand why some fans wouldn't like it. On the other hand, Shane Black came out to address the fans that were dissapointed with the Mandarin twist in Iron Man 3 and was a complete *****ebag about it by openly mocking Iron Man fans.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I think overall, based on what we have seen so far, this film seems to have the right balance of interaction on EVERYONE's behalf.

I agree.

 

[BatLobster]

Haha this is true, it's embedded in us americans to fear the british accent subconsciously. It's subconsciously synonymous with evil to us. lol. Sinister. :P

Lol, kinda true. I recently saw a hilarious Eddie Izzard bit where he points out how all the Imperials in Star Wars have British accents.

Anyway, the other thing I'm wondering is how much input Jonah Nolan might've had on this film. The SHH! member gillberg2k1 who had the inside track with a lot of stuff for TDK Trilogy mentioned that Goyer's script was in trouble early on and I'm pretty sure he said that J. Nolan did some cleanup work. He did some uncredited work on Begins too (which we only found out last year), so it wouldn't be the first time.

 

[Kevin Smith]

I think Snyder had imput on the story too.

But Snyder is clearly a better action man than Nolan.

I think like this; Nolan = strategist. Snyder = fighter. I would rather fight Nolan than Snyder. Snyder would beat the **** out of me. He just looks like the type of dude that could kick your ass. Nolan I wouldn't want to fight in chess (if I had to pick out of the two of them :P ).

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

Huh?

I think he means on TDKR....?

Meant to say producer, not director

 

[DoomsdayApex]

I think Snyder had imput on the story too.

But Snyder is clearly a better action man than Nolan.

I think like this; Nolan = strategist. Snyder = fighter. I would rather fight Nolan than Snyder. Snyder would beat the **** out of me. He just looks like the type of dude that could kick your ass. Nolan I wouldn't want to fight in chess (if I had to pick out of the two of them :P ).

I'd be afraid to tangle with a strategist. Never go into a fight with a flawed perception. Appearances are deceiving.

 

[Kevin Smith]

Lol, kinda true. I recently saw a hilarious Eddie Izzard bit where he points out how all the Imperials in Star Wars have British accents.

Haha that's awesome, I've found more times than not villains tend to in american films, lol.

Anyway, the other thing I'm wondering is how much input Jonah Nolan might had had on this film. The SHH! member gillberg2k1 who had the inside track with a lot of stuff for TDK Trilogy mentioned that the script was in trouble early on and I'm pretty sure he mentioned that J. Nolan did some cleanup work. He did some uncredited work on Begins too, which we only found out last year.

If Jonah Nolan helped with the script then I am beyond thrilled. Goyer needs someone to balance him, he is a great ideas man, but that's about it, IMO. On his own he's not so great, his Flash script is proof of that (Turtle Man as the villain, and he has him kill Barry Allen no less? Really?), IMO.

I think having Jonah involved is a fantastic thing.

 

[747]

I like the tidbit in the SHH set report about Jonathan Kent having a clipboard about alien stuff and is doing his own research of his son's origin. Never seen that done before, but it actually makes sense.

 

[Kevin Smith]

I'd be afraid to tangle with a strategist. Never go into a fight with a flawed perception. Appearances are deceiving.

I'd be afraid regardless, I just feel like Snyder would personally, physically kick my ass.

Then I'd find out it was Nolan's plan all along.

 

[Kevin Smith]

I like the tidbit in the SHH set report about Jonathan Kent having a clipboard about alien stuff and is doing his own research of his son's origin. Never seen that done before, but it actually makes sense.

I love that.

 

[rashad]

Nolan.has never made action scenes that looked this good, never.

There's not too many directors that can shoot action like Snyder though.

 

[StarLord]

Whats with all the Flash talk?