All Things Superman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - - - Part 73

[StarLord]

Not viewable in my country.

Same. Stupid bloody video restrictions!

 

[Smallville13]

Michael Shannon on Good Morning America (New Clip)

http://gma.yahoo.com/video/man-steel-brings-focus-supermans-142743142.html

Yeah damnit not available. Is there another link?

 

[TheIrishAvenger]

It's just footage, no dialogue. They're talking over it.

 

[Kevin Smith]

Just watched the clip. No audio but man is it awesome.

 

[Smallville13]

The thing that's confusing me is all these early reviews giving it 8/10 and calling it 'flawed' but I'm unsure what the flaws are? Poorly developed characters? Zod's plan doesn't make sense? Weak 3rd act? Plot holes?

 

[Notrip]

Yep, Michael Shannon does not look happy in that scene. You can see the [BLACKOUT]council members in the background[/BLACKOUT] leaving in a hurry.

 

[TheIrishAvenger]

Here's the Lois/Perry clip on YT.

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[Kevin Smith]

The thing that's confusing me is all these early reviews giving it 8/10 and calling it 'flawed' but I'm unsure what the flaws are? Poorly developed characters? Zod's plan doesn't make sense? Weak 3rd act? Plot holes?

Lack of Daily Planet Clark and Lois I think. We know it but many people going into it didn't. That and...

Spoiler

...Superman kills (ala what Barry Allen did in the 80s comics from the sounds of it....fine by me)

 

[Notrip]

The thing that's confusing me is all these early reviews giving it 8/10 and calling it 'flawed' but I'm unsure what the flaws are? Poorly developed characters? Zod's plan doesn't make sense? Weak 3rd act? Plot holes?

It is character issues and development issues looks like. From what I have seen it isn't plot holes or a weak 3rd act. So basically if you LOVE Action and a great character development for the lead actor and a tight story then this is the movie for you. gonna be I hope

 

[Smallville13]

Lack of Daily Planet Clark and Lois I think.

Spoiler

And Superman "kills" (ala what Barry Allen did in the 80s comics from the sounds of it....fine by me)

Oh god is that really happening? I thought that was some stupid rumor. You've got to be joking. No way Snyder and Goyer would do that. What do you mean by 80s Barry? What story are you referring too? Crisis?

 

[TheIrishAvenger]

Spoiler

...Superman kills (ala what Barry Allen did in the 80s comics from the sounds of it....fine by me)

Where did you hear that?

 

[Zionite1]

Oh god is that really happening? I thought that was some stupid rumor. You've got to be joking. No way Snyder and Goyer would do that. What do you mean by 80s Barry? What story are you referring too? Crisis?

He is reffering to Barry killing zoom.In asimilar fashion

 

[Smallville13]

Oh and I can see that being a point of detraction for us fans, I don't see how the general audience would dock it points and call it flawed for that reason. Same for not enough Clark and Lois.

 

[Zionite1]

Oh and I can see that being a point of detraction for us fans, I don't see how the general audience would dock it points and call it flawed for that reason. Same for not enough Clark and Lois.

True.Fact is I think it is going to go down a lot better with the audience than fans

 

[Smallville13]

Seriously regarding the [BLACKOUT]killing[/BLACKOUT] this is literally me right now

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

 

[kendalag]

I'm not mad, because I've already been spoiled on this 'elsewhere' ... but it's hilarious, the reactions to the 'spoiled' content is what is the spoiler.

 

[Kevin Smith]

Oh god is that really happening? I thought that was some stupid rumor. You've got to be joking. No way Snyder and Goyer would do that. What do you mean by 80s Barry? What story are you referring too? Crisis?

Spoiler

Some guy in the spoiler review section has been answering questions about it right here on the hype. Seems legit. I think it works fine if done in the right context. And 80s Barry Allen...I'm a huge Flash fan, so idk if you're as familiar but The Reverse Flash shows up to kill Barry's new bride to be the day of their wedding, he already killed Barry's first wife, Iris West, Barry and Thawne (Reverse Flash) fight and Barry in a moment of desperation, panic, and confusion, accidentally (?) snaps Thawne's neck, killing him. This lead to the infamous "Trial of The Flash" storyline in the 80s, his JLA membership getting revoked....<<< kinda BS, IMO, lol.

 

[Smallville13]

Seriously why the ****. Why would Snyder and Goyer intentionally even allow for it to come to that in the script. If this is to make Supes edgier for todays audience I'm not on board.

 

[Dr. Fortress]

Zack really didn't go back on his word on how exclusive the comic con MOS preview was. I just wish they would release it in HD and officially eventually. The shot of the glasses did a lot for me, lol. That is my only "gripe' if you can call it that, and I know this going into it, no DP Clark until the end. Lol

I need the CC trailer in HD, if we don't get it I'm going to be bummed.
What do you think the chances are it will be released?

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

^ Me too. I'm not fond of the idea, but if it's executed well, it could be a turning point for the character on film and in the franchise. I feel like Nolan pays such fealty to logic, that they didn't have the

Spoiler

Phantom Zone

in this version, leaving little options besides

Spoiler

Zod killing himself accidently or intentionally, if they didn't want Superman's blood on his hand.

Or it could just be a cheap attempt to darken him up.

 

[Smallville13]

Spoiler

Some guy in the spoiler review section has been answering questions about it right here on the hype. Seems legit. I think it works fine if done in the right context. And 80s Barry Allen...I'm a huge Flash fan, so idk if you're so familiar but The Reverse Flash shows up to kill Barry's new bride to be the day of their wedding, he already killed Barry's first wife, Iris West, Barry and Thawne (Reverse Flash) fight and Barry in a moment of desperation, panic, and confusion, accidentally (?) snaps Thawne's neck, killing him. This lead to the infamous "Trial of The Flash" storyline in the 80s, his JLA membership getting revoked....<<< kinda BS, IMO, lol.

Probably a hard request but you wouldn't have a link to the page where Barry does this in the comics? Or even the one panel. I've never read that storyline before. Jesus. The 80s was tough on Barry.

 

[A.Stabelli]

How do we know this is even legit?

 

[Kevin Smith]

I need the CC trailer in HD, if we don't get it I'm going to be bummed.
What do you think the chances are it will be released?

I have no idea, man. I hope it gets released too. And the music was perfect for it. Should have been the first official trailer post the teasers, IMO. I'd think they would release it at least with the DVD/blu ray, but who knows....Zack may be EXTREMELY true to his word and it may just truly remain a CC exclusive. lol

 

[Notrip]

I think it might be time for me to go until I see it next Thursday. I'm out