All Things Superman: An Open Discussion

[zeptron]

If there's another villain please don't let it be Lex. That would make me feel like they're remaking Superman 2.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

The Joker and 2face were used in the previous franchise but they werent the only ones used.The Former Bat franchise utilized nearly all of Batmans rogue gallery so they are allowed to rehash villains.Superman on the other hand has only used Zod and luthor..Thats it.They are not allowed to rehash villains becuse they dont need to they have a cadre of unused villains so fockin use them!
The only way i see this working is if it is a zod cameo or Russian zod.

The key demographic will be people who saw that film as children or just probably haven't seen it as it came out years before they were born. If Zod were used in Superman Returns that would be understandable but it was thirty years ago and he was used once like Joker and Two Face but they were used much more recently.

 

[DarkKnight FTW]

Again, its not like Superman has a huge rouges gallery. Everyone who whines "Not Zod again" names the same 5 villains as examples, nevermind the fact that 2 of those named would heavily involve Luthor which they also don't want. 1 of the villains, Doomsday, isn't any good. You might as well watch the Incredible Hulk again. And so in a possible 3 picture deal, you want to use the Biggest 2 first??? And no, the former Bat franchise didn't utilize nearly all of his rouges and it was much more recent so if anything, they shouldn't have been able to re-use them. They're much more fresh in the minds of the GA!

 

[Bren]

The Joker and 2face were used in the previous franchise but they werent the only ones used.The Former Bat franchise utilized nearly all of Batmans rogue gallery so they are allowed to rehash villains.Superman on the other hand has only used Zod and luthor..Thats it.They are not allowed to rehash villains becuse they dont need to they have a cadre of unused villains so fockin use them!
The only way i see this working is if it is a zod cameo or Russian zod.

Did you stamp your feet when typing this too ?

 

[DarkKnight FTW]

Read: http://screenrant.com/superman-man-of-steel-zod-michael-shannon-kofi-110303/

 

[SuperDaniel]

Great article!!!

 

[Herolee10]

It's curious to note that only 2 out of our 5 confirmed cast members were actors that were discussed within forums about being nominated to portray their respective roles.

1. Henry Cavil as Clark Kent/Superman
2. Kevin Costner as Jonathan Kent


While as stars like:

1. Diane Lane
2. Amy Adams
3. Michael Shannon

Caught a good amount of us by surprise in both good and bad ways for the characters that they were chosen to play.

I think I can honestly say that a lot of us didn't think that the film would have such an attractive woman play the role of Martha Kent, and a lot of us were so focused on actresses such as Olivia Wilde, Rachel McAdams, or Jessica Biel, that having Amy Adams chosen to play the role took us all by surprise due to the fact that no one had even thought about the possibility, let alone due to some thinking that Warners would not select a woman much older than Henry to play Lois Lane.

And from what I had read, Michael was being heavily discussed by fans to portray Lex, with a lot of posters from what I've seen heavily nominating Viggo Mortensen to portray the villainous general instead, with Michael as Lex instead.

It's interesting to see at the surprise casting choices that they've had for this film so far.

 

[DorkyFresh]

I think I can honestly say that a lot of us didn't think that the film would have such an attractive woman play the role of Martha Kent, and a lot of us were so focused on actresses such as Olivia Wilde, Rachel McAdams, or Jessica Biel, that having Amy Adams chosen to play the role took us all by surprise due to the fact that no one had even thought about the possibility, let alone due to some thinking that Warners would not select a woman much older than Henry to play Lois Lane.

i think people dismissed Amy because she's more of an obvious fit for Lana than Lois. whenever she was brought up before they announced Lois, people just said that she's better for Lana and left it at that.....her age was never an issue until they released the official announcement that included her age in the article.




but i gotta agree.....i'm loving this type of surprise casting. even though they're surprising, the actors/actresses are all more than capable of playing their respected roles...and that's what's most exciting to me.

 

[Gunga Diner]

I like to imagine that Snyder's (live-action) films follow a Star Trek-esque odd-number theory. Watchmen and Dawn of the Dead made attempts to be intelligent and mature, but 300 and Sucker Punch were (seemingly) intentionally stupid.

Even if the movie is campy and absurd, we know that it'll be visually arresting. I can handle campy Superman. I can handle Snyder applying his excessive attempts to be cool to Superman. But I just hope he "gets" the character. For all of my complaints about Watchmen, it's clear that he "got" Dr. Manhattan and Rorschach. Those characters are way more complex than Superman.

My hopes for the movie are really high. It seems like Snyder is putting some real effort into this one. It seems like he's trying to be grown-up.

 

[DieSmiling]

is it just me, or does "The Man of Steel" sound about a billion times better than "Man of Steel"?

I really hope they add in that "the." Makes it sound soo much better.

 

[Zionite]

is it just me, or does "The Man of Steel" sound about a billion times better than "Man of Steel"?

I really hope they add in that "the." Makes it sound soo much better.

Lol i agree.The Man of Steel is the way to Go.
Titles for the Trilogy
1.The Man of Steel
2. Son of Krypton
3.The Superman

 

[BH/HHH]

Read: http://screenrant.com/superman-man-of-steel-zod-michael-shannon-kofi-110303/

That was superb I wish all the Zod naysayers would read that

 

[ElDuderino]

Is it "The Man of Steel" or just "Man of Steel"?

I ask because this forum's title is just "Man of Steel".

Edit: Never mind, just saw someone else asking above. "The Man of Steel" is infinitely better, in my opinion. I can't explain why, but it just is.

 

[Zionite]

That was superb I wish all the Zod naysayers would read that

I have read it -and it didnt convince me Braniac could not have been used instead.I know Zods a good villain.I just dont agree he was the best villain for the reboot.
I wonder though why they chose the name "Man of Steel".I mean if the Kryptonian Zod is the villain(thereby implying the movie draws heavy influences from Krypton mythos),why not appropriately name it "Son of Krypton"?
Maybe Im wrong...Maybe I get my wish and it is the Russian Zod and the Kryptonian Mythology is downplayed.That would explain the whole "Man of Steel" title.
Or Snyder might have simply said"Steel.Sounds good.Manly Awesome.Son Of Krypton says Mammy boy/nerd.Man of Steel it is"

 

[Lead Cenobite]

Is it "The Man of Steel" or just "Man of Steel"?

I ask because this forum's title is just "Man of Steel".

Edit: Never mind, just saw someone else asking above. "The Man of Steel" is infinitely better, in my opinion. I can't explain why, but it just is.

That's because that's the way it's always said. Likewise when it's used in a title.

 

[DieSmiling]

That's because that's the way it's always said. Likewise when it's used in a title.

Yeah, because it's his title.

If "The Dark Knight" was just called "Dark Knight" it would be weird. Unlike Batman (where "the Batman" also sounds awesome) you don't here people talking about "the Superman" or "Man of Steel." It's Superman, the Man of Steel.

Well, I guess people might call him "the Superman" when he first shows up, but you know what I mean. Once Superman is officially his title, that's what he's called.

 

[ElDuderino]

I understand that it has historically been "The Man of Steel", but I was just wondering if the film was officially called "Man of Steel" -- that would explain why SHH left out of the "The" in the forum title. Or maybe it was just an inadvertent omission.

 

[Doc Ock]

I love The Man of Steel for the title. Its awesome when a Superhero movie isn't directly named after its main character. Like The Dark Knight instead of "Batman" or...ummm....errr....well I can't think of another example it sure doesn't occur often!

And I think including Superman in the title might of just confused people. ("Hey! Is this the sequel to Superman Returns? Where is the dude from it? Where's Kevin Spacey? Where's...well you get the point! )

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

I understand that it has historically been "The Man of Steel", but I was just wondering if the film was officially called "Man of Steel" -- that would explain why SHH left out of the "The" in the forum title. Or maybe it was just an inadvertent omission.

Yes, the official title is Man of Steel.

 

[DorkyFresh]

they should be "THE" in front of the title. the way it is now just sounds funny. Supermanman of steel...instead of Superman, the man of steel. the way it is now sounds goofy (manman) and decidedly less epic than putting "THE" in front of "Man of Steel"...

...but then again, i would rather they have gone with Last Son of Krypton.

 

[Sam]

If there's another villain please don't let it be Lex. That would make me feel like they're remaking Superman 2.

Prepare to be disappointed, because IT IS Lex Luthor.

 

[Doc Ock]

Prepare to be disappointed, because IT IS Lex Luthor.

I find it hard to believe any Superman movie taking place on Earth in Metropolis could not involve Lex in some way.

 

[Sam]

I find it hard to believe any Superman movie taking place on Earth in Metropolis could not involve Lex in some way.

Agree. Lex is much more than a villain, he is a supporting character as important as Lois, Perry, etc

 

[Sabaoth]

Agree. Lex is much more than a villain, he is a supporting character as important as Lois, Perry, etc

You said it, Lex is not just a villain but a supporting character...no small thanks to Smallville.
I'm sure that will be the next big announcement!

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

Okay, I need help regarding the lawsuit between Warners and the Siegel and Shuster estates. On 2009 it was reported that the heirs captured rights to certain elements of Superman's Kryptonian origin.

Here is an excerpt from an article.

This means the Siegels -- repped by Marc Toberoff of Toberoff & Associates -- now control depictions of Superman's origins from the planet Krypton, his parents Jor-El and Lara, Superman as the infant Kal-El, the launching of the infant Superman into space by his parents as Krypton explodes and his landing on Earth in a fiery crash.

Which leads me to ask this question. Can Krypton, Jor-El & Lara and Superman's launching from Krypton and his landing on Earth appear in the upcoming film Man of Steel? Since this is a reboot it will probably show his origin but then how much of the origin story will we see?

I really appreciate all the help in advance.