BvS All Things Superman and Batman: An Open Discussion - - - Part 98

[brojinder]

I don't think he was joking. Insulting Martian Manhunter and his fans is not joking.

 

[BatmanVSuperman]

It seemed as sarcastic humor to me

 

[LEVITIKUZ]

Even if Goyer was joking, it's a bad joke saying only comic book nerds know Martian Manhunter.

It's like me saying the best way to know who has the best doughnuts is to ask a random fat guy because he looks like he's eaten every type of doughnut because he's fat.

 

[Mrs. Wayne]

Gawd, this is all deja vu.

 

[dhandler01]

You'd have to be ignorant to believe that John Stewart is a better choice for the lead of a GL solo film. Also, please tell me what casting of mine is bad.

And why are you being a *****e? Levitikuz and i disagree about Green Lantern, but his posts have actually added something to this place. but you? you're just a n00b.

Its a joke calm down...you like to go on the rants about GL every time someone talks about John Stewart so I poked you a bit. No offense was meant.

I dont care who is the Green Lantern (I like them all) I have said that a million times. And Seth Rogan as Guy Gardner is ludicrous, there is nothing badass about Rogan and Guy Gardner is a badass.

I stopped caring about being called a "n00b" about a decade ago but thanks for making me feel young

 

[The Sage]

News really truly is slow if y'all digging up that old comment.

 

[SpideyFan866]

I don't think he was joking. Insulting Martian Manhunter and his fans is not joking.

He was on a satiric podcast, which was literally all joking, when he said that.

 

[dhandler01]

Gawd, this is all deja vu.

Maybe someone will post how MOS didnt make money...havent had that one in a while

 

[Rorschach2012]

Its a joke calm down...you like to go on the rants about GL every time someone talks about John Stewart so I poked you a bit. No offense was meant.

I dont care who is the Green Lantern (I like them all) I have said that a million times. And Seth Rogan as Guy Gardner is ludicrous, there is nothing badass about Rogan and Guy Gardner is a badass.

I stopped caring about being called a "n00b" about a decade ago but thanks for making me feel young

I feel very strongly about the Green Lantern, i don't think they're even close to being all equal. I like them all too, but Hal Jordan is the only choice to lead a Green Lantern solo film. Emerald Twilight and Sinestro Corps War, and the Blackest Night Saga is what a GL film series should be based on. Hal Jordan is absolutely crucial to a GL film series.

Seth Rogen could absolutely nail a more comedic Guy Gardner seen in Justice League International or any of Guy's animated appearances. I will continue to defend a slimmed down Seth Rogen as Guy Gardner. After Observe and Report, I'm convinced.

If there is no intention to spin the Justice League movie's GL off into his own film series, then it doesn't matter as much which GL is used. But if they want a GL film series to reach its full potential, Hal is who should lead the franchise.

 

[dhandler01]

Its all good...passion for characters is why we are here buddy

 

[zryson]

I feel very strongly about the Green Lantern, i don't think they're even close to being all equal. I like them all too, but Hal Jordan is the only choice to lead a Green Lantern solo film.

If there is no intention to spin the Justice League movie's GL off into his own film series, then it doesn't matter as much which GL is used. But if they want a GL film series to reach its full potential, Hal is who should lead the franchise.

I would be surprised if Warner Bros spins GL off into his own solo film any time soon (especially after how the solo movie failed). Maybe the closest GL fans will get is a team-up movie, much in the same way as Batman v Superman (with other superheroes making an appearance.) Sort of WB's way of bolstering the chances a movie will fare better at the box office, because that way if somebody doesnt like one character, they might another.

 

[roach]

Ben Affleck talks Daredevil and BvS

NPR: On whether he has any trepidation about starring in the upcoming Batman, given his regrets about the 2003 film Daredevil

BEN AFFLECK: Indeed I have regrets about Daredevil. I have regrets about all the movies that I don't think were executed properly. ... Look, if I thought we were remaking Daredevil, I'd be out there picketing myself ... and that goes for other movies as well that I haven't been happy with. You know, I'm hard on myself and I have exacting standards and I want to do excellent work and I don't always succeed, but I think you have to start out with that drive.

[Batman] was written by Chris Terrio, who wrote Argo, who's not a comic guy. And it's directed by Zach Snyder, who's a incredibly magical sort of visual stylist who's steeped in the comic world. And you have this sandwich of talents. I felt very confident about it. ... I thought it would be nice to make one of these movies really, really good

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Neat that Affleck is learning more about visual effects from Snyder.

 

[zryson]

Ben Affleck talks Daredevil and BvS

NPR: On whether he has any trepidation about starring in the upcoming Batman, given his regrets about the 2003 film Daredevil

BEN AFFLECK: Indeed I have regrets about Daredevil. I have regrets about all the movies that I don't think were executed properly. ... Look, if I thought we were remaking Daredevil, I'd be out there picketing myself ... and that goes for other movies as well that I haven't been happy with. You know, I'm hard on myself and I have exacting standards and I want to do excellent work and I don't always succeed, but I think you have to start out with that drive.

[Batman] was written by Chris Terrio, who wrote Argo, who's not a comic guy. And it's directed by Zach Snyder, who's a incredibly magical sort of visual stylist who's steeped in the comic world. And you have this sandwich of talents. I felt very confident about it. ... I thought it would be nice to make one of these movies really, really good

Like I said a while back, I thought Affleck was trying to redeem himself for the failure of Daredevil by taking on this role. It wasn't his only reason, mind you, but I am positive it played a part. As for whether the movie turns out to be really, really good, that remains to be seen when the public gets to cast their vote in 2016.

 

[matt47]

Ben Affleck talks Daredevil and BvS

NPR: On whether he has any trepidation about starring in the upcoming Batman, given his regrets about the 2003 film Daredevil

BEN AFFLECK: Indeed I have regrets about Daredevil. I have regrets about all the movies that I don't think were executed properly. ... Look, if I thought we were remaking Daredevil, I'd be out there picketing myself ... and that goes for other movies as well that I haven't been happy with. You know, I'm hard on myself and I have exacting standards and I want to do excellent work and I don't always succeed, but I think you have to start out with that drive.

[Batman] was written by Chris Terrio, who wrote Argo, who's not a comic guy. And it's directed by Zach Snyder, who's a incredibly magical sort of visual stylist who's steeped in the comic world. And you have this sandwich of talents. I felt very confident about it. ... I thought it would be nice to make one of these movies really, really good

Love the bolded part the most, it really is a good collaboration because Terrio can write the script, then Snyder can have a look at it and say, "Maybe Superman would say it like "this" instead."

 

[dhandler01]

A while back someone said there was no way the tv universes would cross over with each other:

CW Prez Says Otherwise

This could get very interesting the next few seasons if the shows are successful.

Fixed because the link was wrong...

 

[zryson]

I remember people saying that the tv universes and movie universes would remain separate.

 

[michael1975]

Everyone that's not sold on Doomsday vs the trinity being the final act of this movie should watch this
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I won't lie and say that was a horrible fan made trailer/movie. In fact its one of the best hands down. However that one went under the idea that it would use Donner/Singer Superman along with The Dark Knight Trilogy Batman. So you would have had an established Superman that the world loved. So it would have worked to a degree.

However it won't work as the villain in Batman vs Superman. This movie will take place not long after events of Man of Steel. Much of the world doesn't trust Superman and some even hate him. You could throw Doomsday in but you would have to do kill Superman off and I'm sorry but it's too soon for that. You can't do Doomsday and not kill Superman off. If you try you're going to have a horde of upset DC fans like myself. On top of that if you're going to kill Superman off you want to make his death have an impact on the world and other heroes. Again to soon for him to have that kind of impact.

If you do Doomsday here is what you do. You do Justice League and Man of Steel and really push Superman has the hero that all heroes inspire become. The you do Man of Steel 3 and you do Doomsday and you kill Superman off. Then you show the impact of his death across the solo films all the way in to Justice League 3. You have Darksied show up and reign destruction on earth. You should Justice League trying to fight back but are defeated. Then when all hope is lost you have Superman come back and rally the Justice League and bring them back together and defeat Darksied as a team.

I know what I am say makes it sound like Justice League couldn't exist with out Superman and that's not what I am saying. When Superman died in comics his death had a profound effect on the world and the other heroes. It left a gaping hole that no hero could fill. You have to show that in order to make his death matter and have mean and to do the death of Superman justice. Killing him and bring him back in one film would be a complete waste and wouldn't do the story line any real justice and would come off as cheap as well.

That's my opinion. I don't think we will have a real villain in Batman vs Superman. I think the title pretty much says what the movie will be about.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

A while back someone said there was no way the tv universes would cross over with each other:

CW Prez Says Otherwise

This could get very interesting the next few seasons if the shows are successful.

It would make a lot of sense considering Arrow has borrowed so much Teen Titans stuff. And that a lot of WB/CW shows do get replayed on TNT (okay, that doesn't matter nearly as much, but still ). TV and film however WILL remain separate.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Anyone else think Kutcher could make a great GL or Flash? Anyway, I saw Gurl Bye,,,Our boy did good. I nominate Pike for Vicki Vale.

 

[zryson]

I won't lie and say that was a horrible fan made trailer/movie. In fact its one of the best hands down. However that one went under the idea that it would use Donner/Singer Superman along with The Dark Knight Trilogy Batman. So you would have had an established Superman that the world loved. So it would have worked to a degree.

However it won't work as the villain in Batman vs Superman. This movie will take place not long after events of Man of Steel. Much of the world doesn't trust Superman and some even hate him. You could throw Doomsday in but you would have to do kill Superman off and I'm sorry but it's too soon for that. You can't do Doomsday and not kill Superman off. If you try you're going to have a horde of upset DC fans like myself. On top of that if you're going to kill Superman off you want to make his death have an impact on the world and other heroes. Again to soon for him to have that kind of impact.

If you do Doomsday here is what you do. You do Justice League and Man of Steel and really push Superman has the hero that all heroes inspire become. The you do Man of Steel 3 and you do Doomsday and you kill Superman off. Then you show the impact of his death across the solo films all the way in to Justice League 3. You have Darksied show up and reign destruction on earth. You should Justice League trying to fight back but are defeated. Then when all hope is lost you have Superman come back and rally the Justice League and bring them back together and defeat Darksied as a team.

I know what I am say makes it sound like Justice League couldn't exist with out Superman and that's not what I am saying. When Superman died in comics his death had a profound effect on the world and the other heroes. It left a gaping hole that no hero could fill. You have to show that in order to make his death matter and have mean and to do the death of Superman justice. Killing him and bring him back in one film would be a complete waste and wouldn't do the story line any real justice and would come off as cheap as well.

That's my opinion. I don't think we will have a real villain in Batman vs Superman. I think the title pretty much says what the movie will be about.

I would be surprised if there is a Man of Steel 3. As for Doomsday/killing off Superman, that would work, and could be a way for Superman to redeem himself in the eyes of the public. But in terms of villains, I do think Batman v Superman will have several villains. After all a hero is only good as the adversary they face.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

I nominate Pike for Vicki Vale.

That or Artemis in the Wonder Woman movie.

 

[Black Narcissus]

It would make a lot of sense considering Arrow has borrowed so much Teen Titans stuff. And that a lot of WB/CW shows do get replayed on TNT (okay, that doesn't matter nearly as much, but still ). TV and film however WILL remain separate.

Did you click on the link? This is a troll link. Some football video.

 

[Tv's Phil]

I did. I thought I was missing something. It didn't make any sense.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Everyone that's not sold on Doomsday vs the trinity being the final act of this movie should watch this
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I'm ready, mane. I just want a great goddamn movie. I've been waiting for Superman and Batman to appear on screen my whole life. I don't care if the villain is an old lady and the trinity has to beat her ass. Just give me a great movie.