Arrow Arrow General Discussion Thread - - - Part 17

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I knew the "Red Arrow" name was going to catch on more than Arsenal. Oliver being absent and a new colored Arrow in town was going to lead to the media calling him Red Arrow. Hopefully this means by the end of the season Oliver will be officially known as Green Arrow, which in turn makes Roy Red Arrow. It opens up the possibility of Diggle actually becoming Arsenal.
 
John Campea sucks balls anyway so **** what he thinks haha.
 
I'm afraid to even watch the Episode now.

Despite the flaws, the episode is good IMO, and is getting good reviews too:

http://www.avclub.com/tvclub/arrow-midnight-city-214501

http://screenrant.com/arrow-season-3-episode-11-midnight-city-reviews/


Now haters can blame Felicity for supporting Laurel to continue the fight, she's the Canary's #1 fan! :woot:

The real jumping the shark thing is Oliver not dying, that was bad writing indeed, but the show remains decent enough.
 
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Where in the world is Nanda Parbat?
Nowhere your travel app can find, that's for sure. Maseo drops a mention of this mysterious place tonight, and sharp-eared listeners will know this isn’t the first time it’s been talked about. In fact, we know that Malcolm Merlyn received training there because he told us himself. So did Sarah Lance. And that training came from the League of Assassins and Ra’s al Ghul. But there’s more to this land than that. It’s been a part of the DC Comics world since Strange Adventures #205 from 1967.









What’s new (52) about Black Canary’s costume?
Sara Lance’s costume was very similar to the original Black Canary’s. But Laurel’s is really inspired by the full-leather suit redesign that appeared with the launch of the New 52! Talk about making it work.
 
So I have a crazy idea .... Ra's was upset at Merlyn because of the Undertaking, which I assume was not part of the plan. What if he knew that Merlyn was responsible for Sara's death, and his real concern is not avenging her, but finding a way to get help in capturing Malcolm. So for this, he threatens Oliver, who is protecting Merlyn.

Now when Oliver comes forth as the killer, he knows it's to protect Merlyn, but instead of delivering a fatal blow to kill him instantly, he hurts him just enough to take him out of commission for a bit, while Maseo asks for help in getting him back to health so he can eventually return to Starling and lead back to Marlyn if he stays. So i this case, Ra's is using Oliver, without his knowledge and the endgame is to find Merlyn.

After all, what importance is it for Maseo to tell Oliver that the city needs him?
 
So I have a crazy idea .... Ra's was upset at Merlyn because of the Undertaking, which I assume was not part of the plan. What if he knew that Merlyn was responsible for Sara's death, and his real concern is not avenging her, but finding a way to get help in capturing Malcolm. So for this, he threatens Oliver, who is protecting Merlyn.

Now when Oliver comes forth as the killer, he knows it's to protect Merlyn, but instead of delivering a fatal blow to kill him instantly, he hurts him just enough to take him out of commission for a bit, while Maseo asks for help in getting him back to health so he can eventually return to Starling and lead back to Marlyn if he stays. So i this case, Ra's is using Oliver, without his knowledge and the endgame is to find Merlyn.

After all, what importance is it for Maseo to tell Oliver that the city needs him?

I have a similar idea but instead of Oliver.......Ra's uses Brick as bait to flush out Merlyn knowing he wants revenge on Brick.....still Oliver as a pawn is something Ra's would do
 
So I have a crazy idea .... Ra's was upset at Merlyn because of the Undertaking, which I assume was not part of the plan. What if he knew that Merlyn was responsible for Sara's death, and his real concern is not avenging her, but finding a way to get help in capturing Malcolm. So for this, he threatens Oliver, who is protecting Merlyn.

Now when Oliver comes forth as the killer, he knows it's to protect Merlyn, but instead of delivering a fatal blow to kill him instantly, he hurts him just enough to take him out of commission for a bit, while Maseo asks for help in getting him back to health so he can eventually return to Starling and lead back to Marlyn if he stays. So i this case, Ra's is using Oliver, without his knowledge and the endgame is to find Merlyn.

After all, what importance is it for Maseo to tell Oliver that the city needs him?

Sorry, but that would be bad writing too because there was no guarantee Oliver was going to survive that fall. And Roy found Merlyn easily, so it should not be that hard for the LOA, hopefully Ra's plan will make sense, he has been wasted so far.
 
Sorry, but that would be bad writing too because there was no guarantee Oliver was going to survive that fall. And Roy found Merlyn easily, so it should not be that hard for the LOA, hopefully Ra's plan will make sense, he has been wasted so far.
What if he sent Maseo to find the body so they could use the Lazarus Pit :wow:

I'll just pulling at strings here ... I just feel like there's more to Ra's plan than we've been let on to because, I agree, for a big villain, he hasn't had much of a presence other than through word of mouth.
 
So i this case, Ra's is using Oliver, without his knowledge and the endgame is to find Merlyn.


Ra's has known where Merlyn is for awhile. He had Sara tracking him and then he sent DJ Assassin to Star City after Sara got killed.
 
What if he sent Maseo to find the body so they could use the Lazarus Pit :wow:

I'll just pulling at strings here ... I just feel like there's more to Ra's plan than we've been let on to because, I agree, for a big villain, he hasn't had much of a presence other than through word of mouth.

Ra's seem to be behind the scene guy until he reveals his true plan......he still a threat even if he don't appear in person.
 
I'll just pulling at strings here ... I just feel like there's more to Ra's plan than we've been let on to because, I agree, for a big villain, he hasn't had much of a presence other than through word of mouth.

That's because his part in the season is like final 8-9 episodes stuff. Probably similar to Slade last season. While Slade was reveled to be alive in Episode 9 and his plan involved Blood becoming Mayor, Slade himself didn't start making moves on screen until Episode 15.
 
There still a chance the pit is used or some other method. We never saw how katana healed him so dead or near death requires more than herbs. Katana is only saying will to live because there is probably more to this so we wait and see.

Agreed. Althpough I found the situation somewhat disappointing, although I didn't find it as bad as some here did, there is indeed likely more to it than we've seen so far.
 
So I have a crazy idea .... Ra's was upset at Merlyn because of the Undertaking, which I assume was not part of the plan. What if he knew that Merlyn was responsible for Sara's death, and his real concern is not avenging her, but finding a way to get help in capturing Malcolm. So for this, he threatens Oliver, who is protecting Merlyn.

Now when Oliver comes forth as the killer, he knows it's to protect Merlyn, but instead of delivering a fatal blow to kill him instantly, he hurts him just enough to take him out of commission for a bit, while Maseo asks for help in getting him back to health so he can eventually return to Starling and lead back to Marlyn if he stays. So i this case, Ra's is using Oliver, without his knowledge and the endgame is to find Merlyn.

After all, what importance is it for Maseo to tell Oliver that the city needs him?

Sounds somewhat plausible, I figure Ra's is skilled enough with the sword that he would be able to inflict a wound that appears fatal but actually isn't.
 
Agreed. They should have had him brought by the Lazarus Pit or just not have Oliver die in the first place, have him end up in a coma instead.

Except that's precisely what happened. At no point was Oliver dead. The injuries were non-fatal. :huh:

While I can understand why some people might be disappointed by the story not turning out the way they would have wanted/predicted, I'm somewhat puzzled by the amount of vitriol being spat out that Oliver wasn't needlessly made "dead" only to be miraculously cured by a deus ex machina. Was it really THAT big of a shocker that those injuries weren't fatal to the show's main character?
 
If there's any character that should die or go, I vote for Thea.

She has been, without a doubt, the most useless character and waste of space this entire season.

The only time that she has been tolerable was when she was playing sidekick to Roy.

All she ever does is just play sword fights with Malcom.
 
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Im a fan of Young Justice, and i approve of the idea floating around of Thea as Artemis. I think that'd be awesome :up:
 



well before we knew Artemis from the show that character was called Arrowette it was changed to Artemis in the show but dc used the name Artemis though so many characters in the comic's have the name From ad Amazon friend of wonder woman which i'm sure you all saw with the super girl animated movie where Harvenger died dark side too k on super man & batman in it to that one time friend become enemy of Zealot of the "wild cat's" that Jim lee had DC buy but hasn't be used properly with new 52. the name Artemis is over used.

They will have to make up a name for Thea though if they don't kill her off that is .
 
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I'm glad the DJ turned out to be an assassin, last thing we need is another love triangle. Also, I would like to see Thea form her own superhero identity and that seems to be where they are going with her training but once that happens the show will be running really low on non superhero characters. I miss when it was just Oliver out fighting crime with the actual Dig assistance.
 
Oliver would not be able to do half the things in Season 2/3 without some help.
 
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