Arrow Arrow General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - - - Part 25

[Quasimod0]

Did anyone notice that the hacker kid was named Cooper Seldon?
Seldon Cooper... Sheldon Cooper from Big Bang theory

 

[Loki882]

The problem is, they keep doing it. He killed Ra's at the end of last season. THAT should have been what started it I think. Heck that was the whole point of him managing to beat Slade without killing him (which the writers forgot about apparently). So it would have shown more progress if he did manage to take Darhk down without needing to off him.

That's my problem, I just think that they've executed (no pun intended) this idea well. And we've had four seasons, at some point this particular plot point needs to end, especially given how much they've been harping on it for the entire show. I don't think that we should be FOUR seasons in, and Oliver STILL "doesn't know" how to stop the big bad without straight up executing him.

 

[Slade W]

That is fair enough if you think they Oliver should have found another way by now, but they have suggested that they are trying to find another way. It is good that they are not ignoring it, like they ignore many other issues (I am still wondering where that runaway missile is going to end up).

Oliver has changed in many ways from previous seasons. In season 3, Oliver believed that the ends justify the means and that you must do what it takes to stop the enemy, especially against a foe as formidable and resourceful as Ra's. Amanda Waller teaching Oliver to torture people to get what he wants, and him doing it to people. Oliver was willing to work with Malcolm so that he could beat Ra's, and even handed him the LOA because he felt that it was worth it. Oliver bringing Thea back with the Lazarus pit, even though he knew that there would be consequences. Oliver joining the LOA because he felt it was the only way to take them down. Oliver killing the LOA member and Ra's al Ghul, because he thought there was no other way to beat the LOA, despite his no-kill rule. Oliver willing to kill himself in a plane-crash, so that he would take Ra's with him. In season 1, he killed people much more freely.

This year, when Sara was out of control and like a wild animal, with others wanting to put her down to put her out of her misery, Oliver found a way to help her, and did not do anything desperate, despite everyone else wanting to. He found a way to save Thea without sacrificing either Malcolm or Nyssa too, despite them both wanting to kill each other and not giving Oliver many options. He trusts his friends more this year, as not doing so last season caused him problems. Darhk offered him the chance to work for him, and he considered taking them down from the inside like he tried to with the LOA, but ultimately decided against it. He is becoming more pro-active by running for mayor to help people different ways and improve the city. He is constantly trying to better himself, despite all of the difficulties that he faces.

He is very different to what he was before, but he is still not perfect. I did not expect him to kill Darhk, and I was hoping that he wouldn't. But after trying to put Darhk in jail backfired and resulted in Laurel's death, I understand him still not knowing what to do in such a situation. His journey is not complete, but he has made progress. I don't trust these writers with much these days, but the fact that they showed Oliver not feeling right about killing Darhk makes me think that they will have him find another way eventually. Fair enough if you think they should have done it by now, but they still want it to be a challenge for him to overcome.

 

[SpideyVille]

did anyone notice that the hacker kid was named cooper seldon?
Seldon cooper... Sheldon cooper from big bang theory

bazinga!

 

[Lencho01]

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/05/27/spoiler-room-arrow-unreal-blacklist-spoilers

Since most of Team Arrow is now gone, will season 5 introduce new members? — Terry

I’ll let Stephen Amell take this one: “There’s always possibly going be more new members of Team Arrow, but I don’t know yet,” he says. “I know obviously Echo Kellum is joining us as a series regular, so we’ll see if he can ingratiate himself into the team.”

 

[Jedi Arrow]

They just gotta start a war

Ugh. I was just looking at Funko's next wave and was really excited for S4 Green Arrow and Speedy, and then I noticed the wave also had...Speedy with Sword. And I was like uh, where's Laurel? This is disappointing to me.

But, it does make one wonder: are the rumors of DC restricting Katie Cassidy-as-Black Canary merch true, after all?

 

[Broseph44]

Ugh. I was just looking at Funko's next wave and was really excited for S4 Green Arrow and Speedy, and then I noticed the wave also had...Speedy with Sword. And I was like uh, where's Laurel? This is disappointing to me.

But, it does make one wonder: are the rumors of DC restricting Katie Cassidy-as-Black Canary merch true, after all?

Hmm well isn't there a DC collectibles figure of Laurel's canary coming out? Or it's out already.

 

[Primal Slayer]

It came out like the week before or after Laurel actually died on screen lol.

 

[Jedi Arrow]

Yeah, and it was already in the making well before that; look at her hair, it's the S3 wig. If they'd waited a couple months more, waiting to make a S4 version, it's possible that they would've been told not to produce it. If that had been the case then we would've been certain that they have some kind of ban on Katie Cassidy BC products. Makes it all the more likely, IMO, that she'll be appearing in the movies in the future.

 

[aNarcHy2day]

So, if Black Canary makes it to the big screen, will Olicity shippers start a petition to get Felicity to the movies too?

HOW DARE THEY CHOOSE BLACK CANARY OVER FELICITY!

 

[Primal Slayer]

They want her in the movie since it means it keeps both Katie and Laurel away from the show.

 

[SpideyVille]

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/05/27/spoiler-room-arrow-unreal-blacklist-spoilers

I just had a thought .... What if the reason Curtis is joining the team is because he will be replacing Felicity, who will be joining Oliver on the field?

 

[Jedi Arrow]

I just had a thought .... What if the reason Curtis is joining the team is because he will be replacing Felicity, who will be joining Oliver on the field?

 

[Paradox1]

That's what I thought would happen they'd kill Felicity and have Mr. Terrific take the IT role. He suppose to be one of the smartest people on the planet but somehow I feel he's playing second fiddle to Felicity.

 

[regnak]

Katrina Law discusses how she messed with the Olicity fans


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhxHAIMMQ8c

 

[Broseph44]

That's what I thought would happen they'd kill Felicity and have Mr. Terrific take the IT role. He suppose to be one of the smartest people on the planet but somehow I feel he's playing second fiddle to Felicity.

Everyone plays second fiddle to Felicity, even Ollie. Haven't you been watching the show?

 

[TheCommissioner]

Stephen Amell thinks you all need to lighten the hell up

http://screenrant.com/arrow-stephen-amell-season-4-fan-response/

 

[regnak]

Stephen Amell thinks you all need to lighten the hell up

http://screenrant.com/arrow-stephen-amell-season-4-fan-response/

And we don't give a damn.

 

[TheCommissioner]

and that is very clear

 

[ARBH]

Stephen Amell thinks you all need to lighten the hell up

http://screenrant.com/arrow-stephen-amell-season-4-fan-response/

Meh. He has to walk the company line. You don't bite the hand that feeds you.

 

[DarkSouls]

So after the Reddit fiasco made huge news, anybody here think the CW might try to contain Guggenheim's desire for appropriation a little bit?

 

[ARBH]

So after the Reddit fiasco made huge news, anybody here think the CW might try to contain Guggenheim's desire for appropriation a little bit?

I somehow missed that. Was it an AMA?

 

[gohei_]

I somehow missed that. Was it an AMA?

No, apparently the Arrow board turned into a Daredevil board or something like that

 

[BatsDC]

Yeah, the Arrow subreddit changed its theme to Daredevil after the finale.

 

[Slade W]

That will show them.