Arrow Arrow General Discussion Thread - Part 5

[Hunter Rider]

Unless it will be deathstroke and the Island story will be sheding light on what made him turn into the villain he is. Which would kind of make sense. Maybe they have the corporate villain who is the female character hire Slade for some reason or another.

That certainly is a strong possibility but at the same time it would make the Island stuff seem a bit less interesting as we know where it's heading in the present and Ollie would surely explain to Digg as soon as Deathstroke showed up. I'd prefer Slade and Ollie be purely an island story in season 2 and then the final shot of the season be Deathstroke overlooking Starling City, setting up season 3.

As for GA villains. I'm not that familiar with them either. But I could see Brick being involved in terms of taking over the Glades after its destruction. Some of the villains I see more as one offs or a two parter.

I looked up Brick, with some retooling I could see him working, I actually thought you meant this guy at first.

In a way I think the current comic is doing a grear job of setting up the "Big Bads" for future seasons of the show.

Who are they using in the current comic?

 

[SlamAdams]

I think that was the female villain. I thought he spoke to a man on a phone at one point (a muffled phone voice like Ollie's translator), but penultimate episode he was talking to his boss, and it was the girl with the stilleto heels.

I think I misread the original post. I thought it was implying that Slade and Fyers were working for the same person which made little sense to me. Nevermind

 

[solidsnake86]

That certainly is a strong possibility but at the same time it would make the Island stuff seem a bit less interesting as we know where it's heading in the present and Ollie would surely explain to Digg as soon as Deathstroke showed up. I'd prefer Slade and Ollie be purely an island story in season 2 and then the final shot of the season be Deathstroke overlooking Starling City, setting up season 3.



I looked up Brick, with some retooling I could see him working, I actually thought you meant this guy at first.

Spoiler

Who are they using in the current comic?

This is the stuff I found on Brick, plus he was on the list http://www.comicvine.com/brick/4005-4452/

As for the current run, there is a new villain called komodo, I don't want to spoil anything in case you want to read it, but its got some interesting stuff that could be adapted with some changes. Plus he has a pretty cool costume that is simple yet iconic looking that I feel is tough to achieve.

They also are re-imagining vertigo with a new design.

 

[SlamAdams]

Apparently, Everyman from the weekly 52 story was also on the list. I bet they have him as some kind of con artist/identity thief

 

[Justin]

I don't think we'll see Brick as the big bad next season because they mentioned the big bads are going to be instantly recognisable as DC enemies and he's a little small for that.

I personally think we will see Deathstroke in Starling as the physical dark/archer type threat. They can run his island story alongside it. They haven't denied that Slade is coming, and I think he's the man to top Merlyn.

As for the other smarter one, I'm guessing it will be the female that sanctioned the island operation paying Slade.

 

[Hunter Rider]

This is the stuff I found on Brick, plus he was on the list http://www.comicvine.com/brick/4005-4452/

As for the current run, there is a new villain called komodo, I don't want to spoil anything in case you want to read it, but its got some interesting stuff that could be adapted with some changes. Plus he has a pretty cool costume that is simple yet iconic looking that I feel is tough to achieve.

They also are re-imagining vertigo with a new design.

He was on the list in Ollie's book? Reading that link I can see why you think he may take over the Glades in the aftermath, it's very close to the comic stories involving him.

I'm not probably get around to reading the book so I looked Komodo up, I can see why you feel he might fit. Looking at the pic below I'd keep the mask but try something different for the rest as it's too much like The Dark Archer's look IMO.



Is this the new Vertigo design?

 

[solidsnake86]

^I'm pretty sure he's listed as Danny Brickwell, whether they use him or not is a different story, but I think, given the similarities, it wouldnt be that big of a shock.

I agree with Komodo, its a cool costume, but after the dark archer, some changes will definitely be needed to avoid similarities. I think the mask is great and that should definitely be kept. They did such a good job with the dark archers costume, I'm hoping they use that in the comics.

Thats also the new vertigo design. It's interesting because you can definitely see that big swirl on his chest completely tripping people out when he uses his powers. It will be interesting to see the direction they take him.

Sorry for not posting pics, never bothered to learn how to do it on here and don't want to hot link because thats what i would probably end up doing by accident.

 

[Justin]

He was on the list in Ollie's book? Reading that link I can see why you think he may take over the Glades in the aftermath, it's very close to the comic stories involving him.

It says Danny Brickwell appears on Ollie´s list of corrupt men and women in Starling City above Adam Hunt, Martin Somers, and Hannibal Bates.

Could just be a cameo although he does sound like he'd fit in right now. Whats going against him is that they said the villains would be high level DC villains and I'm not sure if he qualifies. The other thing is that his whole gimmick is having skin like a brick and being able to take bullets and missiles and things. Not quite sure if the show would go there or not, if it didn't then he'd just be a basic crime boss. I read him more as a recurring character like deadshot, china white than a series villain.

 

[solidsnake86]

That's probably why he wouldnt be the main villain, because I wouldn't really consider him a high level dc villain either.

Plus you're right, his gimmick is his skin, once you take that away, he really is just a crime boss.

 

[Volthoom]

I really hope deathstroke appears for season 3 instead of two, have season two be about slade and ollie's friendship get ruined. Also, I wonder how will they explain Slade's power-ups, they didn't touch on that in the first season, hopefully they do. Shado in the present would be nice, i am leaning towards having her and ollies baby added but at the same time no. Lady Shiva for season two so she can kick Ollie's butt! t:

 

[Hunter Rider]

^I'm pretty sure he's listed as Danny Brickwell, whether they use him or not is a different story, but I think, given the similarities, it wouldnt be that big of a shock.

Definitely and even when it comes to his brick skin, maybe they could say he has some sort of condition that was amplified by getting caught in the center of the blast, instead of it killing him.

I agree with Komodo, its a cool costume, but after the dark archer, some changes will definitely be needed to avoid similarities. I think the mask is great and that should definitely be kept. They did such a good job with the dark archers costume, I'm hoping they use that in the comics.

Thats also the new vertigo design. It's interesting because you can definitely see that big swirl on his chest completely tripping people out when he uses his powers. It will be interesting to see the direction they take him.

Given what this show has done so far I'd be confident in them keeping Komodo's mask and simply designing the rest of him around that.

Yeah I like the new Vertigo design, he looks almost as if he's cybernetic with the way it's wired into his body, kinda like those harness suits from Elysium.

Sorry for not posting pics, never bothered to learn how to do it on here and don't want to hot link because thats what i would probably end up doing by accident.

No worries, my Google-Fu is good. If you want to know how to post pics though just shoot me a PM, it's easy.

It says Danny Brickwell appears on Ollie´s list of corrupt men and women in Starling City above Adam Hunt, Martin Somers, and Hannibal Bates.

Could just be a cameo although he does sound like he'd fit in right now. Whats going against him is that they said the villains would be high level DC villains and I'm not sure if he qualifies. The other thing is that his whole gimmick is having skin like a brick and being able to take bullets and missiles and things. Not quite sure if the show would go there or not, if it didn't then he'd just be a basic crime boss. I read him more as a recurring character like deadshot, china white than a series villain.

Yeah I think he'd be a recurring villain if he appears as opposed to the big bad, after all he would control a low end part of Starling City so he doesn't have the juice to be a main threat to Ollie, but I'd be interested in seeing him and seeing how they adapt his skin.

I'm not sure what character would be classified as a villain DC fans would know that is linked to Green Arrow, unless they are borrowing from one of the other characters rogue's gallery.

 

[Snow Queen]

Thinking about it a bit, if it's supposed to be a recognizable character, I think that the Malcolm-esque bad guy could be someone like The Riddler. They've already dipped into Batman rogues and I can't think of many very recognizable schemer villains that aren't completely tied to another character (ex. Joker). Plus, I believe Riddler has fought Green Arrow often.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Thinking about it a bit, if it's supposed to be a recognizable character, I think that the Malcolm-esque bad guy could be someone like The Riddler. They've already dipped into Batman rogues and I can't think of many very recognizable schemer villains that aren't completely tied to another character (ex. Joker). Plus, I believe Riddler has fought Green Arrow often.

I think Riddler would be off limits, same with Penguin. Their turn in a new Batman movie is most likely right around the corner.

 

[Carlo Comicus]

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[solidsnake86]

I think Riddler would be off limits, same with Penguin. Their turn in a new Batman movie is most likely right around the corner.

This is what I'm thinking as well. Although they would be the best characters to show up in the show, they most likely are off limits to the tv show. I see more the C-list villains being used. I still think the great white shark would be cool, he's a newer villain and has a good look for the show that is supervillain esque, yet can still be accomplished on a tv budget.

Actually that's the great thing about batman villains, they really don't cost that much because they are mostly guys in business suits.

I also remember reading that KGbeast was mentioned by his real name and we know there are russian connections with oliver on the island. That's another option.

This show really has so much potential for great stories and I think the writers have done a great job given that green arrow doesn't exactly have the greatest rogues or numerous acclaimed stories. I also think, smallville for better or worse, has really shown what they can avoid.

 

[Justin]

The main thing about the riddler is like someone said, he's actually a GA enemy too. GA had such a feeble list of villains so they just imported them. I read Brick actually hires Riddler at one point so he can do his work without GA interfering.

I see Brick being implemented kinda like that Mafia boss man in TDK but with a skin condition (not a super power). He'd fit right into this show as the face of organized crime, especially with Helena's dad no longer around so much. But like I say, recurring character might work best for him. Wouldn't complain if he's the threat though, although hard to work out if he'd be the brains (malcolm) or the brawn (dark archer).

 

[DarKush]

After reading that comic vine description I definitely would like to see Brick on Arrow, and it's cool that his name is already on the list.

I wouldn't mind seeing someone like Ving Rhames or Michael Jai White (who has that TDK tie) playing him.

 

[RetroNaz]

Better yet, let them reveal that Brock is in fact Gamble from TDK lol.

 

[p4poetic]

I think Riddler would be off limits, same with Penguin. Their turn in a new Batman movie is most likely right around the corner.

I think people are all Batman-ed out at this point. A new Batman film franchise wouldn't [or shouldn't] happen for a very long time.

 

[John Locke]

Perhaps one of the villains is Prometheus?

 

[DarKush]

I think people are all Batman-ed out at this point. A new Batman film franchise wouldn't [or shouldn't] happen for a very long time.

On one level I agree, but I think there's just too much money out there for them not to put another Batman film into production soon. Either way how Man of Steel turns out, I think they're going to do something with Batman soon. Either he'll be in a Justice League film (if Superman succeeds enough to convince them to go that route) or he'll be in a solo project if Superman fails (and they become convinced that Batman is the only viable big screen superhero option they have).

 

[Paradox1]

I agree Batman is brand upon it self similar to any apple product it seems, or Nike's. The product only needs to be of similar quality and boom a billion dollar box office.

 

[HighFivingMF]

I think people are all Batman-ed out at this point. A new Batman film franchise wouldn't [or shouldn't] happen for a very long time.

Yeah, Batman's not going to be gone for long.

 

[Hush]

SO iread an article on IGN saying that they should connect this Universe and MOS Universe and have Ammel cameo in MOS, anybody think this would work? I haven't watched the show so I would not be able to comment but I do think it would be cool but i imagine its prolly all manner of legal hell to get it done.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

Amell should absolutely not cameo in Man of Steel, maybe Justice League.