The Dark Knight Rises As for the end of the third (and maybe the last) movie...

[MaceB]

I - for one - hope that it doesn't end up totally resolved. We all want to see Batman have lots of respect and happiness in his life... but that's not really in the cards for him. He can never stop being Batman, and he will always be alone.. because he chooses to be. That's the tragic reality of his character.
Like many others, I hope it ends on an optimistic note, but with the understanding that Batman's fight is far from over. I really love the B89 ending and would love to see something similar. BB ends with Batman flying towards the camera - connoting that he's moving forward with his plans to fight crime. TDK ended with Batman driving away - connoting how he is now on the run. It would be great if B3 ended with Batman standing still, overlooking the city - connoting that he isn't going anywhere; Batman is standing tall on firm ground.

 

[scatterax]

I - for one - hope that it doesn't end up totally resolved. We all want to see Batman have lots of respect and happiness in his life... but that's not really in the cards for him. He can never stop being Batman, and he will always be alone.. because he chooses to be. That's the tragic reality of his character.
Like many others, I hope it ends on an optimistic note, but with the understanding that Batman's fight is far from over. I really love the B89 ending and would love to see something similar. BB ends with Batman flying towards the camera - connoting that he's moving forward with his plans to fight crime. TDK ended with Batman driving away - connoting how he is now on the run. It would be great if B3 ended with Batman standing still, overlooking the city - connoting that he isn't going anywhere; Batman is standing tall on firm ground.

 

[solex]

I - for one - hope that it doesn't end up totally resolved. We all want to see Batman have lots of respect and happiness in his life... but that's not really in the cards for him. He can never stop being Batman, and he will always be alone.. because he chooses to be. That's the tragic reality of his character.
Like many others, I hope it ends on an optimistic note, but with the understanding that Batman's fight is far from over. I really love the B89 ending and would love to see something similar. BB ends with Batman flying towards the camera - connoting that he's moving forward with his plans to fight crime. TDK ended with Batman driving away - connoting how he is now on the run. It would be great if B3 ended with Batman standing still, overlooking the city - connoting that he isn't going anywhere; Batman is standing tall on firm ground.

yes, yes, I think we would all like to see something like that, but in what context. In other words, something has to emphasize that finale moment (other than the amazing music).

 

[Reek]

should bruce die? get caught? just quit being batman? how would you end it?

personally, id say batman 'dies'. but his body is never found. and end it with Gordon having a 'i figured' smile on his face when they say 'we cant find a body sir'

 

[Wesley Dodds]

Yeeucchhh!

 

[LightningFlash]

So...if TDK is one year after BB, and if the third move is 1-2 years after TDK...you want Batman DEAD, or "DEAD", after three years?

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[SuperFerret]

should bruce die? get caught? just quit being batman? how would you end it?

None. Batman is all about the "never-ending struggle", and that's how it should stay. Why would you want him to do any of those?

 

[Bonovox]

The Nolan franchise should chronicle Batman's first years. He should receive redemption from those in Gotham at the end of the next film, ending with him prepared to move forward as another one of the city's trusted, though not fully understood, public figures. If there are more films after the third, then those films should address Batman's continued evolution as a vigilante, and the continued evolution of his rogues.

 

[SheldonLevene]

So...if TDK is one year after BB, and if the third move is 1-2 years after TDK...you want Batman DEAD, or "DEAD", after three years?

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seems to me that TDK is even less than a year after BB, but overall I gotta agree with your point.

 

[ChickenScratch]

Kill Bruce? No way! And why does everything have to be a trilogy? Can't Nolan do 4 or more? It's a continuing story you know, everything need not be wrapped up in 3.

 

[Bonovox]

You have a point, and I agree with it. I don't think everything has to be wrapped up at the end of the next film. There can still be a lot of loose ends which could be explored further down the line. But what I like about keeping the Nolan series at three films is that it would allow for another director with a unique take on Batman to come in and start fresh. A new director could take what has already been established, then build on it. Perhaps explore things Nolan never wanted to explore in his series. I think it would be wise to move on to a new director and maybe even a new cast after the third film.

I don't want to bash any other comic book movies, but I really disliked "Spider-Man 3." I think it was poorly written, and Sam Raimi put way too much in the film for the sake of satisfying the fans. As a result, he sort of screwed up a good thing he had going. Now, he is on board to direct the fourth film. The cast from the previous films is returning as far as we know. He is continuing a film series which sort of lost its touch, and it lost its touch because of him. Obviously, we don't know what the next "Batman" will be like. But say Nolan does something too bold. Say he screws up, big time, and disappoints the fans. Would it be wise to keep him on board for the sake of keeping things continuous? Or would it be wise to move on to someone else, who could easily pick up the franchise and expand on what is already there?

Even if Nolan doesn't mess up, it would be nice to see a fresh take. I'm sure there are many directors out there who would do justice with a Batman film. As long as it isn't rushed, like "X-Men: The Last Stand." Keeping the Nolan series as a trilogy seems like a wise move (and I think either he or his brother said they were going to have a trilogy, though I may be mistaken), and I do hope WB considers that.

 

[dar-El]

Assuming in the third Batman is cleared of the five murders and that Gotham and the GCPD accept him as a vigilante not a killer , I'd like to see it end like Mask of the Phantasm. Batman on a rooftop, head bowed, the signal lights up in the background, Batman's head rises and he flies off into the night. That leaves it open for a new crew to take over or not.

 

[jmc]

The final film should 'wrap things up' in the sense of ending the Nolan series, but be done in such a way that leaves with Bruce knowing the job is never going to be over, that's this job he has taken is for the rest of his life.

 

[Ledlunar]

Then clearly the third movie is begging for this:

Not sure if Nolan would go for it, but it would keep up with the pattern.


That "apparently" was thought up before TDK even came out, LOL.

thats the most obnoxious "LOL" I've ever seen, you don't know that forsure, your thinking of the old "Joker trial Harvey scarring plot for 3" ... Harveys transformation was included in TDK to make it a tragic story that comes full circle within TDK.....I remember somethings after the filming of TDK and Ledgers death from many people involved in the films implying that he was
intended to be in 3


and if he was wouldn't that put a bit of a damper on Nolan after Heath portrayed it so well, I got faith actors can reprise the role of other actors and not be immitating, it would be hard but man some of the solo work John Lennon, George Harrison & Paul McCartney have done sounds like the beatles playing together again... instead of session musicians Art is art man, music, acting, painting, drawing, writing.... there is alot of talent in this world that can pay real homage,,,,,, Id rather them give it a try instead of dismissing everyone else and giving us a Jokerless less film. there is more to explore

have faith

unless Nolan says "yeah we had some actors in mind but when they read bits of the script it just didn't work so we wrote him out" I'll be fine with it..

but honestly this whole thing of people asking to retire the Joker from films completely and have him only recast in the next franchise are no fun buzz kills

I guess I want him in the next one cause I know it will be better and there is still so much to explore with such a character Id feel a bit cheated with only getting a 1 film intro to The Joker, but Its up to the man if Nolan doesn't want him recast cause he feels "no one else can do it" then leave him out..

 

[Cunning Stunts]

Kill Bruce? No way! And why does everything have to be a trilogy? Can't Nolan do 4 or more? It's a continuing story you know, everything need not be wrapped up in 3.

To put it simply, a lot of people here just don't know what they're talking about, and will grasp on to these ideas that certain things must or must not be done... To add to that, there's no convincing them otherwise.

For example:

-Nolan's and Ledger's newfound "god-like" statuses. Apparently Ledger and Nolan are the best there ever were at their respective trades.

-This idea that neither is expendable in his given role in these movies is just hilarious. This is a business, and if Nolan didn't agree to a third film, I have utmost confidence WB would have stuck someone else in his place and continued this series.

-And don't forget, Heath Ledger is the only Joker there can ever be from here on out... You know, Batman's ARCH-nemesis. For some reason, "You and I are destined to do this forever," didn't click with these "die-hards".

-And another thing, this idea that this series must NOT go past three films is just hilarious. If there's money to be made, and a story to be told, this series is going to get a fourth film. And a fifth. And a sixth. For all we know, this series might become the next James Bond. For some odd reason, everyone on SHH has become experts on how to use a re-boot simply because Batman Begins made it so popular, and they were all there to see it first.

 

[Drz]

I actually would find it poetic if they end the 3rd movie with Batman dying as a hero.

 

[MadVillainy]

so we can get other actors and directors to try and adapt it.
Honestly after the next Batman film I wouldnt mind at all if the Nolans and Bale left.

Because:

• I like Bale as an actor for his versatility I dont want him playing Batman for such a long time (even though his is SUPERB at it)
• Go forbid if Nolan makes a bad film, I dont want people to turn on him like ppl did with Sam Raimi and Spiderman, less films=less chance of a bad film and people turning
• Just because a franchise doesnt fail doesnt mean that we shouldnt start a new franchise. I think after ever 3-4 films a new franchise should be started, regardless on how good the previous franchise is
• Trilogies rule (Star Wars, LOTR, Godfather, Back to the Future, Dollars)
• A new series of films can give someone the chance to direct a Batman that fits with the Justice League, because no matter what other ppl say NOLAN'S BATMAN DOESNT FIT W/ JUSTICE LEAGUE but solo films should come first

If a Batman film is good, then it will make money it doesnt need to have Nolan to make money just a competent cast and crew. But I think Nolan should maybe stay on as a producer, so he makes sure we dont get another Batman and Robin. I'm actually thankful for Batman and Robin, because I think that because of how bad it is we will nvr (or at least not for a whole) get a TERRIBLE Batman film. They might not like up to TDK but still not bad.

I dont know about a reboot, but I think every 3 Batman films should stand alone...and that goes with most superhero movies for me. Because I hate that ppl think that after Nolan there cant ever be a Batman movie for 20 years
But in the next series no origin story

 

[MadVillainy]

<quote>The scene I have in mind is Batman has finally become the true guardian of Gotham, and in the end, he finds a Joker card on the ground and you hear laughter in the distance, as the city has finally gone into full-on freak, and Batman is one of them... but he's the only one who can protect Gotham from the rest.</quote>

That is one of the BEST ideas I've heard about how to include the Joker, in a small way, in the third movie. I love this idea.

Have the Joker be the inspiration for more FREAKS to rise in Gotham (possibly have the main villain of Batman 3 directly cite the Joker as "opening the door for the freaks to come out and play"....

....Have the characters still coping with the aftermath of the Joker's siege on Gotham...

... and then include that idea as the ending.. With Batman finding evidence that the Joker has escaped and is out and about plotting...

THE END.

There, now the Joker is actually a big part of Batman 3, and yet we never have to see him. He's a background character who motivates others.

I like that ending and it keeps up on how Joker and other villains dont stay dead or escape prison easily

 

[Naite22]

Listen to you all whining about how you want the third movie to be more 'comicy'. Really? Batman Forever and Batman & Robin were more comicy. The Dark Knight is a great movie and you all want the formula to change from it...how lame.

Beautifuly put!... Couldn't have said it better my self. The Dark Knight set a whole new incredibly high bar for how great superhero movies should be made! It broke all rules - and got away with it shining! ! !

I say keep the style from TDK and continue as before, cause it's great! Batman Begins is totally awesome, but TDK is so much more!

 

[Grommers]

TDK was great because it was so different than other comic book movies..



The only way I want TDK comicy is if every other comic book hero movie that comes out is like TDK,

 

[SuperFerret]

I certainly hope they aren't.

 

[Reek]

So...if TDK is one year after BB, and if the third move is 1-2 years after TDK...you want Batman DEAD, or "DEAD", after three years?

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yea, id rather him die then Nolan dip out and someone else come and **** it up. Again.

Kill Bruce? No way! And why does everything have to be a trilogy? Can't Nolan do 4 or more? It's a continuing story you know, everything need not be wrapped up in 3.

im sure nolan could do more than 3. but i for one dont want that. i want 3 to be the last batman in the nolan universe. if he made a 4th then it would be about villains no one gives a **** about. comon guys, catwoman, penquin, black mask, those villains are great, but what ticket sales can be generated with Black Mask? or even Catwoman? WB is no doubt looking for another 900+ million movie. Catwoman, Black mask and Penquin aint gonna cut it. IMO 3 has to be riddler, and could have one of the other villains too, and it has to end with 3. i mean look at spidey...1-2 were great, 3 sucked, and now theres a 4th? youve got to quit while your ahead with these movies. look at Superman.

I actually would find it poetic if they end the 3rd movie with Batman dying as a hero.

exactly. story ends. trilogy ends with a bang. but then again i would rather him be assumed dead.

 

[ChickenScratch]

Doesn't matter what you want man, sorry to tell you that. Money talks and just like James Bond that has a wealth of source material (Fleming, Amis, Gardner Benson, Faulks, Higson, Weinberg) so does Batman have a wealth of source to go back to and can conceivable go on forever just like the Bond adaptations.

This trilogy obsession that many of you have developed is pretty funny to me, there's always more story to tell with Batman. The shape of the world and the people working on the property may change, or it may not, but there's no end in sight and I like that.

Heck, at some point I would like to see Batman back in his retro-futuristic world. Or a steampunk world.

 

[GregComicFan]

What I think will happen:

-Riddler or Catwoman as villains.
-Batman 3 will be more like Batman Begins and less like The Dark Knight, but it will be a blend. I do think Nolan will make Batman 3 like he did The Dark Knight... TDK was like a "crime saga ala Heat"... I think Batman 3 will be like something else... perhaps a thriller like "Se7en"... or whatever else inspires Nolan... but I also think Batman 3 will be Batman-centric (like BB, less like TDK), and Bruce will again be the main focus of the storyline.
-Batcave/Wayne Manor returns.
-Joker will be felt as a forboding/inspirational-to-other-freaks presence.
-The movie will end with Batman as the "white knight" of Gotham, yet his war-against-crime will go on and on and on forever and ever.

 

[AnorexicBatman]

How dare you people suggest that Batman should be killed?
I don't understand this?

Kill off Nolan's BATMAN and make a new one starring Henry Cavil (people are ACTUALLY asking for a reboot) which can tie in with Justice League? Screw you... no really..
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