The Dark Knight Rises As for the end of the third (and maybe the last) movie...

[SuperFerret]

How dare you people suggest that Batman should be killed?
I don't understand this?

Kill off Nolan's BATMAN and make a new one starring Henry Cavil (people are ACTUALLY asking for a reboot) which can tie in with Justice League? Screw you... no really..
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They can change the tone of the Batman movies after Nolan leaves even if Batman is left alive at the end of Nolan's series. Reboot or not (though I admit another reboot is just silly), I'd like the films to move in the direction of a Justice League compatible Batman.

 

[AnorexicBatman]

He already is compatible...
Get of your realism high horse....
It's all fiction... Batman isn't real...

 

[Drz]

How dare you people suggest that Batman should be killed?

Why not? This is a realistic take on a deeply disturbed man who becomes the Batman. Wouldn't it be poetic for him to die as a hero before he might loose it to the monster he created? Ofcourse you can have an ending where he is alive and just continues his mission.

I don't understand this?

Okay so you lack the imagination and you come and complain? >_>

Kill off Nolan's BATMAN and make a new one starring Henry Cavil (people are ACTUALLY asking for a reboot) which can tie in with Justice League? Screw you... no really..

Noone here even mentioned the Justice League thing besides you, so whats with you telling people to screw off? ;o Honestly after Nolan's done with the Batman movies the only movie i wanna see is Zack Snyder's take on The Dark Knight Returns starring either Christian Bale or Mike Rourke as Batman, but thats just me.

 

[SuperFerret]

He already is compatible...
Get of your realism high horse....
It's all fiction... Batman isn't real...

Fine. Okay.

 

[EHTNAMTAB]

Someone else said it earlier in the thread -- the previous two endings (BB and TDK) batman flying towards and riding away from the camera. It woulld be nice to have a radically different style ending to both.

My Idea:

has anyone seen either Michael Clayton or the Long Good Friday?

I would like to see an end scene, in Wayne Manor where Alfred is givng a speech to Bruce, about how things will never be repaired and he can choose to either keep doing this forever or give up, for his own sake (or something lke that).

But the shot just slowly moves towards Bale for the entire scene/speech - meaning we hear Caine as a voiceover. The shot finally holds on his eyes for a while, then suddenly cuts to black. Very simple, and effective - and would underline a scene where a choice is required - and leaves the audience to figure out what he's going to do.

The entire ending scene is a close up shot on a silent Bale- the film, and the trilogy ends.

EDIT: if the riddler were the villain it would fit thematically - the audience is left with a question of their own -what happens next, what will he say, what will he choose, etc

 

[Cunning Stunts]

Fine. Okay.

Welcome to the BatBoards. I'm almost ashamed to say I post here.

Anyway, I think Batman's death would be very poetic, should this be the last Batman film. If not, have him fake his death and allude to a The Dark Knight Returns-type event in the future.

I don't, however, want another re-boot. I want this series to keep going as long as it can. Why people are already asking for a re-boot of one of the most successful film franchises in history is beyond me. To be honest, if we were going to get another Batman series, given Robin and Batgirl (and possibly more characters) their own spin-offs, linked to this universe. Make a couple great movies for each character, and then have an epic No Man's Land style movie in which all the movies come together and are tied off.

THEN re-boot.

 

[MadVillainy]

I like reboot but in the sense that every 3-4 films the series gets a reboot

New Director and cast each time

 

[SheldonLevene]

Welcome to the BatBoards. I'm almost ashamed to say I post here.

Anyway, I think Batman's death would be very poetic, should this be the last Batman film. If not, have him fake his death and allude to a The Dark Knight Returns-type event in the future.

I don't, however, want another re-boot. I want this series to keep going as long as it can. Why people are already asking for a re-boot of one of the most successful film franchises in history is beyond me. To be honest, if we were going to get another Batman series, given Robin and Batgirl (and possibly more characters) their own spin-offs, linked to this universe. Make a couple great movies for each character, and then have an epic No Man's Land style movie in which all the movies come together and are tied off.

THEN re-boot.

No thanks on Batman dying. No matter how much fictional time has passed; introducing a character in BB, having him be an outcast by then end of TDK, and finally being killed in Batman 3 would suck. It would make Batman look like a terrible hero. I would like to see something that shows his mission continues. Not sure who here watched ER's finale, but something like that would be epic.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I think him dying wouldn't make him look like a terrible hero. It would make him look like a better hero really. Being a hero is all about sacrifice. So what if Batman sacrificed his own life for the greater good? He "dies the hero" instead of "living long enough to see himself become the villain".

 

[HotToyzJoker]

I dont want to see Batman die... If it comes down to it Id like to see him rip off the mask and go public... Show Bruce is willing to go whole ten yards for what he believes in... A scene with him stalking prisoners from inside prison would be cool...

 

[Ledlunar]

He already is compatible...
Get of your realism high horse....
It's all fiction... Batman isn't real...

grow up no one wants to see the "realism/Nolan" Batman film merged with the Justice League its not about any highhorse its about being smarter than a 13 yr old.....

Just no let that franchise make there own damn Batman to ruin & piss off

 

[Cunning Stunts]

No thanks on Batman dying. No matter how much fictional time has passed; introducing a character in BB, having him be an outcast by then end of TDK, and finally being killed in Batman 3 would suck. It would make Batman look like a terrible hero. I would like to see something that shows his mission continues. Not sure who here watched ER's finale, but something like that would be epic.

I think him dying wouldn't make him look like a terrible hero. It would make him look like a better hero really. Being a hero is all about sacrifice. So what if Batman sacrificed his own life for the greater good? He "dies the hero" instead of "living long enough to see himself become the villain".

'Nuff said.

 

[AnorexicBatman]

You people are insane...
First you assume Warner would have the gall top kill off Batman....
If Nolan kills him... he automatically loses points from me for finding a cheap way to say farewell to a character... provided he no longer wants to do Batman....
Maybe hurt to the point of be temporarily crippled (ala Knightfall) but never dead...

Then you assume heaven forbid if a Justice League film was made... it would automatically be bad...

Killing him makes him a better hero?
Ya... just like in Final Crisis right?
It works for Supes because he is always portrayed as a Christ parallel.... not Bats

You forget that Nolan has essentially made the quintessential film Batman...
The people won't accept anything anymore that strays too far from the Nolan style...
Neither will Warner because it brings in the bucks...

 

[Cunning Stunts]

How is it cheap? Just because it's an iconic character doesn't mean it can't die.

It's called storytelling. If it would be a fitting end to his series, then I wouldn't mind it. I'd prefer Batman stay alive, to be left open for more stories, but if Chris Nolan decides to kill his Batman in his series, who are we to argue after the two epic films he's delivered so far?

 

[SheldonLevene]

I think him dying wouldn't make him look like a terrible hero. It would make him look like a better hero really. Being a hero is all about sacrifice. So what if Batman sacrificed his own life for the greater good? He "dies the hero" instead of "living long enough to see himself become the villain".

I don't think anyone will argue that dying for the greater good isn't heroic. I guess I meant it would make him look like he wasn't very good at his job if he couldn't stay alive for more than a few years after coming on the scene.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Ahh yea I get ya.

I would obviously prefer him to stay alive. But it would be a neat little twist I reckon. Maybe him and Joker die together? Cementing their connection, their fate, even further.

I've always thought if Batman were to ever die in the comics it would be with the Joker.

 

[SheldonLevene]

He already is compatible...
Get of your realism high horse....
It's all fiction... Batman isn't real...

I don't think...you should be...quite so mean...when you post...

 

[AnorexicBatman]

Also, if you kill him off... other directors can't just pick up where Nolan had left off...
It would have to be a reboot...

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Also, if you kill him off... other directors can't just pick up where Nolan had left off...
It would have to be a reboot...

Why would it? You don't HAVE to have a new origin story do ya? Just do it like Batman 89 or something.

And anyway, I don't want another director to come in and try to replicate Nolans universe after he is done, no matter what director it is.

After these more realistic Nolan films I wanna see a proper hyper stylized Batman series of films like Sin City or something. Like the comic book has been ripped straight off the page.

 

[returntovoid]

I actually would find it poetic if they end the 3rd movie with Batman dying as a hero.

Batman is not an conventional hero that sacrifices his life, He is an anti-hero.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

So you think if Batman were in a position where he could either die and save a bunch of people or the city, or live and sacrifice other innocents, he wouldn't do it?

 

[wayneson]

So you think if Batman were in a position where he could either die and save a bunch of people or the city, or live and sacrifice other innocents, he wouldn't do it?

As a hypothetical question, well sure, he would - but what a lousy bummer of a movie. Why put him in the position in the first place, unless it's to show him, miraculously, somehow doing both? He is a fictional character, after all. I mean, they could have killed James Bond back in 1962, I suppose. Anybody clamoring for that movie?

 

[KalMart]

I don't think Batman should die, but I do think that the next movie should be the last of this run. I would have been fine with just BB and TDK, actually.

 

[Anita18]

Also, if you kill him off... other directors can't just pick up where Nolan had left off...
It would have to be a reboot...

And the problem with that would be....?

I don't get the constant focus on continuity. It's not like people are going to watch ALL of the previous Batman movies before seeing a new one. At best, they might remember some of the actors (good luck to the next guy tackling Joker) but people who go, "Hey the Joker killed the Waynes this is wrong!" is a small minority.

As long as each movie is strong on its own, continuity shouldn't be a big factor. I didn't mind that SR had some murky continuity within the movie Superman mythos, it's just that it wasn't a strong film to me.

Batman is not an conventional hero that sacrifices his life, He is an anti-hero.

His actions at the end of TDK seem to make him more heroic than any "hero" we've gotten on celluloid in recent memory.

I mean, it's one thing to sacrifice your life as long as you are remembered as a hero. It's another to sacrifice your own image as a good guy.

As a hypothetical question, well sure, he would - but what a lousy bummer of a movie. Why put him in the position in the first place, unless it's to show him, miraculously, somehow doing both? He is a fictional character, after all. I mean, they could have killed James Bond back in 1962, I suppose. Anybody clamoring for that movie?

That reminds me of the problems people had with Batman somehow not being able to save both Harvey Dent AND Gordon's son.

He's human, he can't do everything. And it would have precedence with the tone that they're going for. Dent says, "The Batman doesn't want to do this forever, how could he?" He could be referring to the added stress of being Batman, or Batman's increased mortality.

 

[Cunning Stunts]

I don't think anyone will argue that dying for the greater good isn't heroic. I guess I meant it would make him look like he wasn't very good at his job if he couldn't stay alive for more than a few years after coming on the scene.

The thing is though, realistically, people tend not to survive very long getting into battle the way he does (armor or not). If they do, they either live REAL long, or go out in a blaze of glory. The way he's tossed himself into the immense danger that he has usually yields pretty bad results, armor or not. Personally, I see the latter being a much more poetic, heroic, and epic ending to Nolan's series.