BvS Ben Affleck IS Batman!! - Part 3

[Micromind]

I'm a little bored with the "people didn't like the Heath Ledger casting" talk.

In my circle...no one was worried about that casting. My immediate reaction was "the guy can act...I trust Nolan...he seems dedicated...lets see what comes of this." NO ONE was crapping on the casting announcement in my circle of geek friends (though I'm aware that you can find internet postings from people who did).

This movie is coming on the heels of WB telling fans that The Dark Knight trilogy never happened to appease the ego of a director. It's on the heels of Man of Steel...a movie that drastically alters the character of Superman for the sole reason of appeasing the egos of the people making the film (who apparently don't like the definitive Superman).

It's on the heels of Green Lantern, which was absolutely dreadful and cast the wrong guy as Green Lantern despite the fans LOUDLY begging them to cast a particular other actor.


When the rumors started about Affleck a month or so ago, the fans voiced their displeasure then...but he got the gig anyway. It is very clear that WB's attitude is that they don't care what has been established with the characters, no matter how crucial to their story, and they don't care what the fans want. It isn't JUST the Affleck casting that is the problem. That is just a symptom of a larger problem.

I know it's a very COOL thing to bash GREEN LANTERN movie, but at the time WB did many things right, still they also did many things wrong and that lead to movie's failure.

WB assembled a production team of these people, who are very talented but failed to deliver the goods.

- Ryan Reynolds was not mis-cast. (IMO.) He can act and he has in past done few serious movies.

- Director Martin Campbell who was highly successful for Goldeneye, Casino Royale and Mask of Zorro.

- Stuart Baird, academy award winning Film Editor whos works includes SkyFall (2012).

- Prodution Designer Grant Major, acadamy award winning Production Designed whose works included Lord Of The Rings Trilogy.

- Ngila Dickson who won academy award for costume Design for LOTR movies.

- Neville Page, who designed creatures for movies like Cloverfield and Super 8.

- Acadamy Award winning Music composer James Newton Howard.

- WB gave them a budget of 200 mil.

The script let the movie down.

So, while they may Not have done everything right, to say they that everything was wrong and terrible associated with GREEN LANTERN is plain wrong.

 

[Broseph44]

I love this scene and how Keaton looks here. But honestly, any actor could have done this scene. Any dummy can. He's sitting up from a chair, raising his eyebrow and looking at the window like he sees the bat signal. I mean, it's not hard.

That's exactly what I said above haha. Doesn't take much skill to pull off standing up from sitting in a chair.

 

[terry78]

what language does he speak?

People are still trying to figure that mystery out.

 

[roach]

http://geekleagueofamerica.com/2013...ben-affleck-to-play-batman-in-justice-league/

interesting article from earlier this year....

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

I understand all that, but his posts are a bit too far. He's trying to convince everyone this is all a big conspiracy. And that we need to band together to prevent this from happening. That's a bit more then just voicing an opinion I think, and it's rather annoying. Yes I know I can go into settings and block him.

But again, technically there's nothing wrong with that. People are doing the exact same thing in reverse by posting reasons why Ben is a good choice. It's all in the spirit of healthy debate. Some of his posts are a bit overboard--I'll grant you that...and if I were modding this forum, he'd likely have a kindly warning at this point, but so far he hasn't quite crossed the line of offense.

However, if you guys keep engaging him by telling him his posts are stupid/annoying/childish, etc., he will feel the need the defend his stance and and then things will get nasty for all. Just stop feeding it.

In my experience, Hype posters get worse when they believe they have an audience.

 

[roach]

That's exactly what I said above haha. Doesn't take much skill to pull off standing up from sitting in a chair.

Let's be honest...i love Batman but there are really only two modes to the character....night avenger tortured by the death of his parents and playboy.

 

[JangoNate]

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/178917-how-ben-affleck-got-cast-as-batman

"According to The Hollywood Reporter, talks began between Snyder, Warner Bros. and Affleck earlier this year. After completing work on Man of Steel, Snyder reportedly had an idea for a follow-up and the studio began to gauge interest from actors, including the rumored Josh Brolin and Ryan Gosling. Affleck was open to the idea and began discussing the story and the character with Snyder and when he liked what he heard, negotiations began for him to appear."

I know this isn't new to these boards, but I just noticed the above part on my second read through and it made me even more comfortable abou B&S.

It seems Batman and Superman together was Snyder's plan from the beginning for a follow up to MOS, not a Superman only film. This wasn't a knee jerk reaction by the studio to get a billion (though it'll certainly help) or a response to the mythical failure of MOS at the BO. Seeing as Snyder liked Affleck and Affleck was brought on by Snyder's vision, though my confidence was not lost, it is now improved even more. I loved MOS.

 

[Heretic]

I know it's a very COOL thing to bash GREEN LANTERN movie, but at the time WB did many things right, still they also did many things wrong and that lead to movie's failure.

WB assembled a production team of these people, who are very talented but failed to deliver the goods.

- Ryan Reynolds was not mis-cast. (IMO.) He can act and he has in past done few serious movies.

- Director Martin Campbell who was highly successful for Goldeneye, Casino Royale and Mask of Zorro.

- Stuart Baird, academy award winning Film Editor whos works includes SkyFall (2012).

- Prodution Designer Grant Major, acadamy award winning Production Designed whose works included Lord Of The Rings Trilogy.

- Ngila Dickson who won academy award for costume Design for LOTR movies.

- Neville Page, who designed creatures for movies like Cloverfield and Super 8.

- Acadamy Award winning Music composer James Newton Howard.

- WB gave them a budget of 200 mil.

The script let the movie down.

So, while they may Not have done everything right, to say they that everything was wrong and terrible associated with GREEN LANTERN is plain wrong.

The movie was awful. A bunch of talented people made a terrible movie...and ultimately the blame goes to the people who told them what to do...people who viewed Green Lantern as nothing more than a logo they could make money off of, and to hell with it being good or making sense. WB has the best collection of trademarks ever, and don't seem to like them or even understand them.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/178917-how-ben-affleck-got-cast-as-batman

"According to The Hollywood Reporter, talks began between Snyder, Warner Bros. and Affleck earlier this year. After completing work on Man of Steel, Snyder reportedly had an idea for a follow-up and the studio began to gauge interest from actors, including the rumored Josh Brolin and Ryan Gosling. Affleck was open to the idea and began discussing the story and the character with Snyder and when he liked what he heard, negotiations began for him to appear."

I know this isn't new to these boards, but I just noticed the above part on my second read through and it made me even more comfortable abou B&S.

It seems Batman and Superman together was Snyder's plan from the beginning for a follow up to MOS, not a Superman only film. This wasn't a knee jerk reaction by the studio to get a billion (though it'll certainly help) or a response to the mythical failure of MOS at the BO. Seeing as Snyder liked Affleck and Affleck was brought on by Snyder's vision, though my confidence was not lost, it is now improved even more. I loved MOS.

All of this. Something drew Affleck back to the superhero film genre and accepted this project. And I don't think it was JUST a fat payday.

 

[Lencho01]

Don't know about the rest of this movie but this was pretty dope(in hindsight).

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I thought the scene was cool when I first watched it. Plenty of the things can be looked at as Batman-like in that film really.

 

[C. Lee]

if I were modding this forum, he'd likely have a kindly warning at this point, but so far he hasn't quite crossed the line of offense.

However, if you guys keep engaging him by telling him his posts are stupid/annoying/childish, etc., he will feel the need the defend his stance and and then things will get nasty for all. Just stop feeding it.

In my experience, Hype posters get worse when they believe they have an audience.

He's had warnings and infractions....he just doesn't seem to be noticing them.

And truer words were never spoken....if trolls are ignored, they either go away or do something spectacular to get the attention they are missing and wind up banned then.

 

[PTD1969]

Now that a decision has been made and casting is complete, isn't this a bit irrelevant now?

Even though Ben has been cast, I still think that Gerard Butler would be a great Batman.

I think that he is a good actor and I think that his English is fine. His deep voice is good for Batman. Certainly Gerard natural deep voice is better than Bale fake hoarse voice. Batman usually does not talk a lot and when he does talk, he often has sarcasm when he challenges Superman.

The first time that I saw him in 300, I already thought that should play the Batman character. I think he would be better than Ben Affleck.

 

[Lencho01]

All of this. Something drew Affleck back to the superhero film genre and accepted this project. And I don't think it was JUST a fat payday.

Probably the power to make any film he wants at WB. Kinda like Eastwood.

 

[Rogue Kira]

I think the best actor to do Batman is Gerard Butler. He was great in 300, Olympus Has Fallen and Law Abiding Citizen.
He has a tough look and has a deep voice that would be match the Batman character.

Anyone agree?

Oh yeah that deep Scottish accent totally sounds batman.

 

[roach]

All of this. Something drew Affleck back to the superhero film genre and accepted this project. And I don't think it was JUST a fat payday.

This plus 1000. He had sworn off comic book movies. Im sure his mentor george Clooney wouldn't let him do something this stupid if there wasn't something to be gained. Affleck has just now salvaged his career and wouldn't waste all the hard work he has done for a paycheck.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

He's had warnings and infractions....he just doesn't seem to be noticing them.

And truer words were never spoken....if trolls are ignored, they either go away or do something spectacular to get the attention they are missing and wind up banned then.

Ah...well considering you're still in Mod Heaven and I'm in Mod Hell...of course you can see more than I can from this vantage point.

I've always said it takes a Hype Village to raise a user...and a frustrated Hype Village to ban one.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

Compare these two directors' resume together, and you can clearly see that Snyder doesn't have any movie(s) as good as Affleck's Gone Baby Gone/The Town/Argo. And Affleck has the Oscars and other awards to back it up.

Eh, I think the Oscars are overrated. Stanley Kubrick and Alfred Hitchcock never won an Oscar.

Really, pretty much no fantasy/action/scifi movie is gonna win an Oscar for best picture, and a superhero film doesn't really have much of a chance.

That being said, I agree with you. Snyder's rather shakey, while every movie Affleck has made (aside from the unreleased meathook wifekiller movie) has bet met with critical and audience acclaim.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Even though Ben has been cast, I still think that Gerard Butler would be a great Batman.

I think that he is a good actor and I think that his English is fine. His deep voice is good for Batman. Certainly Gerard natural deep voice is better than Bale fake hoarse voice. Batman usually does not talk a lot and when he does talk, he often has sarcasm when he challenges Superman.

The first time that I saw him in 300, I already thought that should play the Batman character. I think he would be better than Ben Affleck.

I guess.

*looks at thread title again*

*shrugs*

 

[Macphisto]

It'd be awesome if Ben can pull this off like Keaton.

Better gif.

That little look he gives when he tilts his head slightly at the end. He's become the bat. It's all in the eyes. Keaton would have made an awesome silent actor.

 

[combocaz]

So correct me if im wrong, Ben was offered the part without a screentest with cavill?. Im abit concerned with the chemistry between Bens batman and Cavills superman, if they dont get it right then this movie could be in trouble. Because of the age gap i just hope they go with the brotherly relationship and not a father(batman) son(superman) one and i hope batman doesnt completely overshadow superman in this movie or else it just turns into a batman movie. It looks like WB have or a hoping they just found their RDJ.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

I love this scene and how Keaton looks here. But honestly, any actor could have done this scene. Any dummy can. He's sitting up from a chair, raising his eyebrow and looking at the window like he sees the bat signal. I mean, it's not hard.

Ya they could do it but not as badass and iconic as Michael did, the man did above and beyond what most actors would have done.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

This plus 1000. He had sworn off comic book movies. Im sure his mentor george Clooney wouldn't let him do something this stupid if there wasn't something to be gained. Affleck has just now salvaged his career and wouldn't waste all the hard work he has done for a paycheck.

There must be something that has drawn him in. Nowadays, the only projects he works is are either his own or if he really loves the script/ideas.

Probably the power to make any film he wants at WB. Kinda like Eastwood.

And to an extent, Christopher Nolan as well.

 

[Obi Wan Kenobi]

I think the best actor to do Batman is Gerard Butler. He was great in 300, Olympus Has Fallen and Law Abiding Citizen.
He has a tough look and has a deep voice that would be match the Batman character.

Anyone agree?

Yep!!! He'd be a way better choice, he's got a persona of kicking your ass on screen, the voice, the eyes behind the mask & I could see him being charming as BW.

Many here keep forgetting, Superman & Batman are suppose to fight each other at some point in this film. What would be more interesting an action guy like Butler as TDK from 300 fighting the MOS or Ben Affleck from Gigli?

What would be more believable Butler's BW with his hand at Superman's throat or Ben Affleck from Gigli?

Sad where this is going. Sad for Cavill and Superman over all, Superman to be brought down by Ben Affleck.

I had such high hopes this movie would be good and blow past Avatar and Avengers but, WB has hit a new low. I'm starting to believe their is a Superman curse.

 

[Marvin]

All of this. Something drew Affleck back to the superhero film genre and accepted this project. And I don't think it was JUST a fat payday.

Considering how things are going for RDJ, I personally think ben could enter that light.
Especially if he actually pulls of a batman that isn't designed to have his films stolen from him.

 

[itsthebatman]

Let's be honest...i love Batman but there are really only two modes to the character....night avenger tortured by the death of his parents and playboy.

Three, actually: the two aforementioned and the REAL Bruce. Bale carried this off very well - the scene where Alfred told him the truth about Rachel's letter in Rises showed the real Bruce, confirming Batman to also be an act for this particular iteration of the character.