Theweepeople said:
Magneto inconsistently showing no compassion towards one of his best friends(Mystique) who got cured and showing compassion towards the death of one of his enemies(Xavier).
Kind of what he did in
X-Men? "Still unwilling to make sacrifice... that's what makes you weak."
That's a sign of disrespect. Yet, in the very same movie:
"I will give you hope, old friend."
"Doesn't it ever wake you in the middle of the night. The feeling that one day they will pass that foolish law and come for you, and your children, and take you all away."
Compassion, disrespect, all in the same movie.
Your problem isn't a problem with the film. It's your inability to comprehend having respect for an enemy. It's your inability to comprehend complexities in human emotions. And it's your inability to comprehend what actually is shown to you on screen, when Magneto
does show regret and sorrow for his loss. But... Mystique isn't human now, she's no longer one of them, and she's no longer part of his cause. It's a show of how extreme his bigotry for humanity has become. It's a problem with your own abilities of comprehension, not with the film.
Theweepeople said:
Jean irrationally killing off Cyclops.
Okay, you're right here. Jean's use of power awoke the Phoenix persona, but against Wolverine, Xavier, and Alcatraz, Phoenix only became hostile when provoked. Cyclops did nothing to provoke her. This was simply a move to get Cyclops out of the way, because he was being written out from the beginning. Whatever the motivations, it was horrible for the story.
That said, it wasn't movie ruining.
Theweepeople said:
The 2 second scene in which Xavier tells Logan and Oro to go to Akali Lake without any further explaination. WTH?!!!!
There isn't any further explanation because the NEXT SCENE, in which Wolverine and Storm go to Alkali Lake, is supposed to give us the explanation of why they are there, of what happened! That scene was merely to show that something bad happened with Jean and Scott. Xavier needed to send the X-Men to check it out, because he felt a disturbance. The scene where they arrive at Alkali Lake is supposed to give us more info into that. But what exactly happened was meant to be a mystery, until what we see what she does to Xavier, then we realize what it is happened to Cyclops.
Suspense. And building of it. Again, your inability to comprehend that. Not an error of the film.
Theweepeople said:
Magneto's convincing Jean to join his group brotherhood by saying "Come with me".
Jean was lost and confused. She was already lost and confused over what happened to Scott. She was not lost and confused over what happened to Xavier. Phoenix wouldn't go back to the mansion, where she'd be controlled. Magneto offered Jean comfort and support in her time of crisis. He also removed her, in her very vulnerable state, before Wolverine and Storm could get there to confront Magneto and Jean. In her weak and vulnerable state, Jean went.
People do things like that when they are weak and vulnerable.
Again, your inability to comprehend what was on the screen. Not an error of the film.
Theweepeople said:
Magneto not being afraid of Jean joining his group after she just killed one of her friends(Xavier).
Magneto was very afraid of her. But, he wanted her and his side, not against him. And he showed that he wanted to allow her to be free. He didn't want to cage her. He encouraged her to be who she was. Hence, he was able to convince her to fight for his cause. He was safe. But he was still very afraid. And that was shown.
Again, your inability to comprehend what's put right there in front of your face. Not an error of the film.
Theweepeople said:
Jean's unclear motivation for joining Magneto's group. Unless acting like a zombie and doing almost nothing around the brotherhood for the rest of the film was her motivation.
Her motivation? She had no home. In Xavier's home, she'd be caged On her own, she'd be alone. Magneto gave her a home, and encouraged her to be who she was. He didn't want to control her, or keep her on a leash. He didn't want to tame her. He wanted her to be herself, in all of her glory. Because to him, she was the epitome of perfection. In his mind, mutants are superior. And she is the strongest one. She is the "next stage of evolution", mutation at it's highest peak. And he convinced her that the cure was meant for all mutants, a threat to her as well as him. Hence, she was convinced to join his cause.
Again, your inability to see what was explicity stated to you on screen. Not an error of the film.
Theweepeople said:
Magneto wanting Jean to stay with the brotherhood after Callisto warns him that she is dangerous and after Jean threatens Magneto with the cure needles.
Because Magneto believed that he could get her to fight for them. He wanted her to stay because he wanted her on his side. Why is this so hard to figure out?
After she threatened him with cure needles, that's even more reason to want her on your side instead of against you.
Your own comprehension deficiencies, not an error of the film.
Theweepeople said:
Magneto hiring an army of mutants who have useless powers.
Magneto is building an underground mutant resistance. He does not control a nation in which he can find and train the best soldiers. He's convincing regular, everyday mutants to join his cause. To take a stand, to form a revolution against the establishment. You don't recruit highly trained soldiers for this kind of thing. This is a movement of the people.
This is your inability to comprehend how revolutions and protests are organized, not an error of the film.
Theweepeople said:
Jean standing around in the end battle scene doing nothing for the majority.
Because she won't be controlled.
She wants to stop the cure because she lusts for power. Not because she cares about other mutants. Therefore, she reacts when directly threatened. Perhaps that deleted scene needed to stay in, that showed her refusing Magneto's orders to stop the military. But it wasn't. But it should be pretty obvious that her intentions are much more selfish and lustful, and that she does not care to protect other people, only her own lust for power.
Not an error of the film, an error in your capability to comprehend the story.
Theweepeople said:
Jean inconsistently killing everyone when she is threatened by the marines behind her with the cure guns but, not killing anyone at the beginning of the attack when she was also threatened by the same marines firing their cure guns at her, Magneto, and his army.
Those guns were never fired at her. They were fired at Magneto's army. Since she was not directly threatened, she does not care.
The needles that were fired at the bridge, Magneto protected them.
Phoenix was unleashed when she had reflex reaction to the cure darts being fired directly towards her from behind. That's when Phoenix was unleashed, and the destruction began.
The earlier cure darts were not fired at her. They were not a direct threat. They did not require a use of Jean's power that would unleash Phoenix.
Not that complicated. The fact that you can't figure these things out show that you are either:
A. Unable to comprehend simple concepts presented to you blatantly
or
B. Have such a personal agenda against this film that you refuse to see what's presented to you blatantly.
Theweepeople said:
Jean hurting Logan but, not killing him. She killed Xavier because he threatened her by trying to get into her mind but, she was not threatened after reading Wolverine's mind in the final scene?!!!!
Who says she read his mind? Jean was an immortal in comparrison to Wolverine, or any other mutant. He had the audacity to march up to her and try to stop her. She thought he was going to die for them, the X-Men. She toyed with him, because she knew she could kill him at any time; "You would die for them?" It wasn't until he said "No, not for them. For you" that Jean was able to come back. Xavier was dead. Phoenix could no longer be controlled. The only answer was to kill Jean.
Simple concepts. Your own personal inefficiencies, not the film's.
Theweepeople said:
Using the mutant cure as a plot device to push the movie forward and then show it's irrelevance in the final scene with Eric at a park.
Very ambiguis. But with the final scenes of Rogue and Mystique, and them being shown as "cured", I come to the conclussion that Magneto is too powerful for the cure. Afterall, this film introduced mutant class levels... Magneto was established as a 4. Leech's power level wasn't established, but I do not for a second believe he is as powerful as Magneto.
Leech's DNA simply put cannot permantly supress a mutant as powerful as Magneto. "Weaker" mutants like Mystique and Rogue will remain cured. But a powerful class 4? His powers will come back. Mutants being too powerful for serums was established in
X2: "But this little serum won't work on you. You're much too powerful for that" (Stryker to Xavier; mutant mind control serum)
Theweepeople said:
The horrible looking wire work of beast at the end. Those scenes reminded me of the killer rabbit scene from Monty Python and the holy grail.
As opposed to the great, absolutley not fake looking, wirework of the Wolverine vs. Lady Deathstrike fight in
X2? That sequence had some of the worst wirework ever. I am not a fan of that sequence because of how bad it is. I've seen WWE matches that look more realistic, and less choreographed than that.
Theweepeople said:
Magneto deciding to waste his army on something he, Jean, or the both of them could have done all by themselves.
And then there wouldn't be much of a movie, would there?
Why, in
Terminator 2, was the T-1000 sent back to when John Connor was already born, and Sarah Connor knew about the Terminators? Why not go back again to before John was born, to a point before Sarah would have known about the Terminators, to catch them off guard, and less prepared? Kyle Reese could only suceed against Terminators so many times before eventually John Connor would be destroyed...
But no, the machines went back to a time when Sarah Connor would have been prepared for the Terminators, after an experience with them, and knew better how to fight them. Oh,
Terminator 2 is such a ****ty movie because the machines had a horrible plan!
Again, this is your inability to comprehend simple storytelling techniques, not an error of the film.
All your points suck. Try again tomorrow.
