Chapter 38- “I Am Become Death” – Discussion Thread 10/6/08

[Anubis]

The episode was the best one of season 3, but it counts for naught. As a story this has failed so long ago and continues to do so - but as television entertainment? I think it might be possible to continue this forever. Why? Because they've adopted the great comic book way of undermining every decision and action that's more or less in the past. If nothing stands for or means anything, it can all be changed in all ways imagineable, and that's what they're shoveling.

Some like, some don't.

I opt to not to waste my time anymore.

Awesome.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

I thought Peter had Claire's healing ability since season 1?

 

[Trainwreck2100]

Did peters cuts from claire heal after the Haitian left the room?

 

[Primal Slayer]

He has had her power since S1. But its only activated when he needs to activate it. Other then that it lays dormant like the rest of the powers he has mimiced.

But I am confused by this:

Welcome back, “Heroes” fans, for Week Two of BEHIND THE ECLIPSE! As always, we are joined by the dynamic duo of writers/producers Joe Pokaski and Aron Coliete. In this installment, the guys answer all of your burning questions in regard to last week’s episode "One Of Us, One Of Them."

“If Sylar's slate is wiped clean the way you describe in BEHIND THE ECLIPSE #1, then his only power should be the ability to read brains, right?”

You’d think — but for some reason, he was able to hang on to telekinesis. We’ll learn a little more about the effect of his first murder in chapter #8 of this volume — “Villains” (yes, it’s the chapter and volume title — like “new Shimmer&#8221

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18343

If Sylars slate was wiped clean except for tk (which has been with him the longest out of all the powers he has stolen) then how does he still have Teds power in the future?

 

[black_dust]

That syler big boom was pretty bad ass!! love this episode and when peter picked syler up when he went back in the past

 

[04nbod]

He has had her power since S1. But its only activated when he needs to activate it. Other then that it lays dormant like the rest of the powers he has mimiced.

But I am confused by this:


If Sylars slate was wiped clean except for tk (which has been with him the longest out of all the powers he has stolen) then how does he still have Teds power in the future?

someone else has a radioactivity power that sylar steals

 

[fu manchu]

idk why, but i LOL when Matt was following that turtle....

 

[Gallagher]

idk why, but i LOL when Matt was following that turtle....

Because it's taken straight out of The Simpsons. Homer has to follow a turtle on a spirit walk. I thought it was rather blatant theft on Kring's behalf to be honest, a bad spot on an otherwise fantastic episode.

 

[Trainwreck2100]

Because it's taken straight out of The Simpsons. Homer has to follow a turtle on a spirit walk. I thought it was rather blatant theft on Kring's behalf to be honest, a bad spot on an otherwise fantastic episode.

I think it had more to do with the turtle appearing in the second ep. And i believe it was the only animal he has come across in Africa. homer had to follow the turtle in that episode but his spirit guide was the space coyote.

 

[shadowdog]

Did peters cuts from claire heal after the Haitian left the room?

I was wondering that myself, my firneds who I was watching with agreed that they thought he did

 

[The Apocalypse]

Because it's taken straight out of The Simpsons. Homer has to follow a turtle on a spirit walk. I thought it was rather blatant theft on Kring's behalf to be honest, a bad spot on an otherwise fantastic episode.

Its kinda of funny, that whole Matt thing. John Locke (LOST) did the same thing to himself in season three. He went into a tent. Ate the same stuff Parkman did, and was able to 'see the future'. There was no turtle involved though.

 

[SuperT]

If Sylars slate was wiped clean except for tk (which has been with him the longest out of all the powers he has stolen) then how does he still have Teds power in the future?

You do realize those events were four years into the future, so it isn't out of the realm of possibility that he scalped someone else with that same power.

 

[Anubis]

When did they say his powers were wiped clean? I was under the impression that he just chose not to use his powers, you know, since he learned to control his "hunger."

 

[flickchick85]

Yeah, Sylar lost all of the powers he had acquired when he got the virus, and then when he was cured, he got them all back. He just only uses the TK b/c that's pretty much all he's ever used. Unless the plot required otherwise, of course.

And the reason he didn't get Candice's power is because he had the virus when he killed her. So since he didn't have his power (to understand how things work/make them work), he couldn't get hers.

 

[absonic93]

I can't wait to see how Tracy's storyline turns out.

So there's Niki, Tracy, Barbara
but Niki is dead
so either Tracy or Barbara will be a villain in the future (mama petrelli dream)

I don't get why everyone hates Tracy even though I think she's a very interesting character so far.....

 

[Hush]

Maybe Sylar healed everything that had to do with him when he cured himself. It makes sense, he cured his power and that stems from his brain and he recovered his powers. If he can remember how to work a powerthan he can use it, that makes sense by remembering how to use TL he still had it, same with everything else.

 

[imdaly]

Maybe Sylar had taken Hiro's powers at some point and had time traveled back to when he first killed and obverved Ted to get that power back?

There's plenty of way for him to have that power back.

 

[Star]

I really don't get why Peter's power didn't work in the future. (His healing ones)

I know people have said it's because he has to 'activate' it but that has never been true before... it just kind of worked automatically... (Aka like when he was being beaten up in Ireland...)

 

[SuperT]

I really don't get why Peter's power didn't work in the future. (His healing ones)

I know people have said it's because he has to 'activate' it but that has never been true before... it just kind of worked automatically... (Aka like when he was being beaten up in Ireland...)

Do you mean Future Peter, or Present Peter?

When Future Peter was shot in the alley by Claire, the Haitian was there negating his healing abilities. So when Claire shot him, his powers didn't automatically kick in and get rid of the bullet. The bullet was still lodged in his brain, thus keeping his powers from reactivating once the Haitian was taken out of the picture.

Remember back in season one when Claire had the log stuck in her head and Peter had the piece of glass stuck in there? Their powers didn't reactivate again until those foreign objects were removed.

One shot to the brain or dislodging the head from the body entirely is all it takes to kill Adam, Claire, Peter, and Sylar.

 

[Matt]

So was I the only one who saw this Noah kid and immediately thought "That's an age-reduced HRG!"

Seriously. I don't see him being Claire's son. But I CAN see him being HRG Noah who's been de-aged back to an innocent little kid who has Gabriel raise and protect him for some reason. And Gabriel sort of adopts him as a father much like Claire was adopted by HRG and was her "father".

That is an absolutely insane theory.

Sometimes the most obvious answer, is the right one. I doubt we're going to get many answers any time soon...being as little Noah served his purpose and is part of a future that will never happen...but the implication was definitely there, that it was Claire and Sylar's.

 

[Mikelus]

Maybe they should start coming with some answers, if ratings keep going like this:

While Two and A Half Men didn’t challenge the viewership of Dancing with the Stars, it beat it to win the hour for adults 18-49, and be the most watched show in the demo for the night. Heroes, well back in viewership, and down about 10% from last week, was still the 18-34 winner for the hour and the night. Prison Break was well back, but was up 10% in the demos from last week.

9:00 PM
ABC Dancing With The Stars 19.701
CBS Two And A Half Men 13.936
NBC Heroes 8.209
FOX Prison Break 5.427
UNI Fuego en la Sangre 5.063

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/10/0...-stars-two-and-a-half-men-heroes-winners/5785

People are getting tired of it, and the worst is yet to come.

 

[Eddie Brock]

Damn shame that Tracy is dragging Nathan down with her. One less character to enjoy...

 

[Savage]

I really wish Tracy wasn't a Nikki clone. If they had hired a new actress and dropped the relation to Nikki I would have been all for it.

 

[imdaly]

I really wish Tracy wasn't a Nikki clone. If they had hired a new actress and dropped the relation to Nikki I would have been all for it.

Are you using the word "clone" meaning that Tracy's just another Nikki, or are you meaning it in the literal sense, that Tracy is Nikki's clone?

 

[absonic93]

she's not a Niki clone, she's one of her sisters who were separated at birth and were the subject of genetic experiments that gave them abilities.