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Chapter 46 - "Our Father" - Discussion Thread 12/08/2008

Weird how?

And what do other Haitians call the Haitian? That bald guy?
 
Hahaha the bald guy. I found a couple of things weird:
- The Hatian struggling to block Arthur's powers. When he blocked them in the Villains episode he didn't even break a sweat.
- Sylar not acknoledging the Hatian. He knows the the Hatian's ability. I doubt Sylar would let that one slip by him.
- Sylar shot Arthur but does anyone know Arthur is really dead? The bullet didn't enter trough the back of Arthurs head like Angela said. Shouldn't Arthur just regenarate after the Hatian leaves.
- Peter actually shooting Arthur. Peter is NOT a killer. Future Peter maybe but present Peter not so much.
 
I mentioned this before... A bullet from a gun that size will blow a huge exit hole. The back of his head in reality would splattered against everything in the background. No brain... no healing.

Sylar could have absobed the haitians powers through empathy... in which case he would not need to kill him.
 
Oh no, they didn't do the most realistic gun shot to the face having it explode out the back of his head for television...ok??? The bullet is stuck in his head and therefore he cannot regenerate. Arthur is dead until someone removes it.
 
Hahaha the bald guy. I found a couple of things weird:
- The Hatian struggling to block Arthur's powers. When he blocked them in the Villains episode he didn't even break a sweat.
- Sylar not acknoledging the Hatian. He knows the the Hatian's ability. I doubt Sylar would let that one slip by him.
- Sylar shot Arthur but does anyone know Arthur is really dead? The bullet didn't enter trough the back of Arthurs head like Angela said. Shouldn't Arthur just regenarate after the Hatian leaves.
- Peter actually shooting Arthur. Peter is NOT a killer. Future Peter maybe but present Peter not so much.
- The Haitian blocked Arthur in the flashback episode and it is obvious that Arthur was less powerful then because he had not gained a lot of abilities. All he had back then it seemed was mind reading/altering. Plus the Haitian could block Arthur for a short time but then Arthur started to fight back. In the Villians episode, he had ingested poison which I am sure hindered his abilities some.
- The Haitian has stopped Sylar every time. Arthur was more powerful than Sylar so the Haitian had trouble keeping Arthur under control for an extended amount of time. The Haitian would have stopped Sylar so he didn't try.
- See above
- Peter isn't a killer and that is why he hesitated:o But he knew it had to be done because he saw the future. Better kill 1 that be responsible for a thousand/
 
Arthur is dead until someone removes it.

They should have blown his brains across the room... avoid any of the future stupid storylines...


"A villain from the past returns.... to threaten the Heroes..." [/NBC announcer] *clip of Peter turning around and saying "Dad?"*
 
- The Haitian blocked Arthur in the flashback episode and it is obvious that Arthur was less powerful then because he had not gained a lot of abilities. All he had back then it seemed was mind reading/altering. Plus the Haitian could block Arthur for a short time but then Arthur started to fight back. In the Villians episode, he had ingested poison which I am sure hindered his abilities some.
- The Haitian has stopped Sylar every time. Arthur was more powerful than Sylar so the Haitian had trouble keeping Arthur under control for an extended amount of time. The Haitian would have stopped Sylar so he didn't try.
- See above
- Peter isn't a killer and that is why he hesitated:o But he knew it had to be done because he saw the future. Better kill 1 that be responsible for a thousand/

He also shot right when Arthur waved his hand to try his powers again. It was a defensive reflex that he pulled the trigger, just in case his powers were back.
 
He also shot right when Arthur waved his hand to try his powers again. It was a defensive reflex that he pulled the trigger, just in case his powers were back.
That is true...I also thought it may have been just a snap reaction when his father cut his face. Like when something suddenly surprises or shocks you...he might have just pulled the trigger out of just pure reaction without thought. I agree.
 
- The Haitian blocked Arthur in the flashback episode and it is obvious that Arthur was less powerful then because he had not gained a lot of abilities. All he had back then it seemed was mind reading/altering. Plus the Haitian could block Arthur for a short time but then Arthur started to fight back. In the Villians episode, he had ingested poison which I am sure hindered his abilities some.
- The Haitian has stopped Sylar every time. Arthur was more powerful than Sylar so the Haitian had trouble keeping Arthur under control for an extended amount of time. The Haitian would have stopped Sylar so he didn't try.
- See above
- Peter isn't a killer and that is why he hesitated:o But he knew it had to be done because he saw the future. Better kill 1 that be responsible for a thousand/

- Arthur being poisened is the only explanation then for why the Hatian didn't have any trouble because i seriously doubt that in 30 years of using his powers, Arthur only absorbed telepathy.

- But the Hatian was weakened. Sylar was able to use his powers. I'm sure Sylar could have put two and two together and figure out what was going on.
 
- Arthur being poisened is the only explanation then for why the Hatian didn't have any trouble because i seriously doubt that in 30 years of using his powers, Arthur only absorbed telepathy.

- But the Hatian was weakened. Sylar was able to use his powers. I'm sure Sylar could have put two and two together and figure out what was going on.

- We don't know though:o Arthur has to physically take their powers away from them and we only saw him use telepathy.

- Why would Sylar kill the Haitian, free Arthur, and then not be able to get what he wanted out of Arthur? Arthur would have overpower Sylar and then killed him. After Arthur was dead, the Haitian could have then used his powers against Sylar. The Haitian wasn't weakened...he was just struggling against Arthur. Sylar only wanted one thing...the truth about whether or not Arthur was his dad and that was the only time he could get that without Arthur knowing because Arthur has telepathy.
 
I'm not saying Sylar should have killed the hatain for the sake of killing him. I just think he would have been interested in his powers. But i rewatched that scene and i agree that Sylar probably didn't care for that, he just wanted the truth, nothing more. He's probably going after Angela next. I wonder who's gonna stop him if he is.
 
Am I the only one whose bothered by the idea that The Haitian has "can be fought with" when using his power?

All this time I thought he just had to stand there...seriously, he gets less bad ass with every episode.

He needs to go back to being a mute.
 
They should have blown his brains across the room... avoid any of the future stupid storylines...


"A villain from the past returns.... to threaten the Heroes..." [/NBC announcer] *clip of Peter turning around and saying "Dad?"*

Exactly what will happen. LOL.
 
Am I the only one whose bothered by the idea that The Haitian has "can be fought with" when using his power?

All this time I thought he just had to stand there...seriously, he gets less bad ass with every episode.

He needs to go back to being a mute.

I dont have a problem with it. The Haitian isnt used to blocking multiple powers. If it is a person with a single power than its no problem for him.

And I wish that they would have had Sylar use his memory or whatever it is called that he got at the beginning of the volume from the agent that Angela fed to him. He could have gotten the answer that way aswell instead of hunting down a human lie-detector.

Also lets not forget that Heroes isnt on HBO, sure they have gotten away with some gritty scenes but I doubt the network and some viewers would have agreed to/like the idea of showing brains splattering everywhere.
 
They should have blown his brains across the room... avoid any of the future stupid storylines...


"A villain from the past returns.... to threaten the Heroes..." [/NBC announcer] *clip of Peter turning around and saying "Dad?"*
Oh I agree and if that happens then well...I wouldn't be surprised:csad:
 
Oh I agree and if that happens then well...I wouldn't be surprised:csad:

Heck... they even did that this year about Arthur showing up. Is it just me, or do they need to just lock themselves in a room and just come up with some awesome villain ideas?
 
And I wish that they would have had Sylar use his memory or whatever it is called that he got at the beginning of the volume from the agent that Angela fed to him. He could have gotten the answer that way aswell instead of hunting down a human lie-detector.

I completely forgot about that chick. The writers need to have some sort of think-tank and write down all of powers Sylar & Peter (If they return to him) have and actually insert them into the story. There's plenty of times where Sylar could have simply used his superhearing or Peter invisibility but the writers seem to forget that they even have that power.:huh:
 
Sylar doesn't have the super hearing anymore. he has: healing, sound manipulation, TK, lie detector, alchemy, clairsentience and electricity manipulation.
 
Sylar doesn't have the super hearing anymore. he has: healing, sound manipulation, TK, lie detector, alchemy, clairsentience and electricity manipulation.

:huh:

Explain why he can still paint the future and go supernova but somehow lost superhearing???
 
:huh:

Explain why he can still paint the future and go supernova but somehow lost superhearing???
Welcome to 2 months ago:csad: We argued the same stuff in here. I guess the writer's pick and choose:o
 
:huh:

Explain why he can still paint the future and go supernova but somehow lost superhearing???

he painted the future and went nuclear in the future. we can only speculate as to what "past" that version of reality was based on... or what happened in between.
 
Welcome to 2 months ago:csad: We argued the same stuff in here. I guess the writer's pick and choose:o

Which is just poor writing.

he painted the future and went nuclear in the future. we can only speculate as to what "past" that version of reality was based on... or what happened in between.

That was in the beginning of the season. It picked up from where we left off in Season 2 w/ Nathan being shot. THat future was in the continuing timeline. Of course now that timeline has been alter and won't ever happen but that doesn't change the fact that during the events of season 1 - present Sylar has been shown to possess the same powers that he's gained. Arbitrarily removing powers is nonesense.
 

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