Chapter 8: "Four Months Ago" Discussion 11/12/07

[Abaddon]

they'd go perky whenever there's an eclipse.

 

[Mysterio]

I think we'll see him do more. As for Mama Petrelli's power, from what I remember it was rumored that she could get from one place to another faster than some of the heroes or something like that.

that isn't quite how it was presented. it was said she can get from Point A to Point B faster. that doesn't necessarily mean it's related to travel, and it doesn't necessarily mean it's physical. as vague as the description was, she could have superfast reading (point A being the beginning of the book, Point B being the end).

 

[Sebastos]

Yes, I stand corrected. I forgot how it was mentioned.

 

[Tyrinus]

I don't know if this came up yet, but it had me thinking.

When Peter was trying to escape his room he pressed his hands against the wall, and he phased through. He wasn't aware he could phase that I'm aware of. I assume he was trying to use his strength to push on and break the wall. Anyone else have any thoughts on it?

 

[Abaddon]

I'm just gonna accept that it was a continuity error.

 

[Matt]

I concur. Peter did not try to be exerting strength at all.

 

[imdaly]

So with Adam's blood in Nathan now....does that give Nathan the power to heal himself?

Nope. Just AIDS.

The self pwn is always the most intense

Isn't that a Sheryl Crow song?

I don't know if this came up yet, but it had me thinking.

When Peter was trying to escape his room he pressed his hands against the wall, and he phased through. He wasn't aware he could phase that I'm aware of. I assume he was trying to use his strength to push on and break the wall. Anyone else have any thoughts on it?

I thought the same thing when I watched it. In my mind, I was assuming he'd phase through the wall, but when I saw him against it, I thought "oh yeah, forgot he had super strength, but phasing would be quieter, no?" Or why not just teleport?

Also, if I were Peter, I would've at LEAST enjoyed my stay with Elle one last time before I left.

 

[Tyrinus]

Did Peter even know he could teleport? He knew Hiro had time related powers, but he may not realize that translates to teleporting.

At some point, I want to see Peter use Molly's power to find someone and then immediately teleport to that location.

 

[Abaddon]

and then make someone do something with eden's power. And then melt stuff.

 

[Damiean Dark]

Is it me or does Kristen Bell have a really cold look sometimes?

 

[The_Beav]

I don't know if I would have bought that either. DL has already demonstrated that he can phase others too. I would think that a dude holding gun would cause him to subconsciously turn on his powers before he pulled the trigger. Kinda like Sue Storm putting her hands up and automatically making a shield when threatened.

DL didn't have the most powerful ability, but it was damn sure well suited to prevent him from getting harmed. He really shouldn't have gone out in such a Mundane way. Perhaps if he was high on opium and couldn't control it I could accept it, but dude was fully alert and well practiced with phasing! I mean after getting shot by Linderman you'd think he'd be on his guard! I know I would have been!

You realize this is the 3rd time DL has been shot. It only goes to show that his ability to avoid bullets is not his best. Although I think he did phased one that Nikki/Jessica shot at him. That makes him, what, 1 for 4.

 

[Damiean Dark]

Ep 8 was a great one over last weeks poor one we need to see some more of Monica though and her great powers.

 

[Mysterio]

When Peter was trying to escape his room he pressed his hands against the wall, and he phased through. He wasn't aware he could phase that I'm aware of. I assume he was trying to use his strength to push on and break the wall. Anyone else have any thoughts on it?

He phased out of his handcuffs back in Ireland. he was obviously aware of the ability afterwards.

 

[The Ones]

He phased out of his handcuffs back in Ireland. he was obviously aware of the ability afterwards.

Isnt that after the "escape from Blondie biatch"?

 

[Eddie Brock]

Someone I know brought this up today:

Adam's powers manifested when he was in his 30's (approximately). That's why, 400 years later, he still looks like he's in his 30's. Does that mean that Claire will look like she's 16/17 forever? If not, at what point does she stop 'aging?'

 

[Mysterio]

Isnt that after the "escape from Blondie biatch"?

ooohhh...right. but it was before the Haitian mindwipe.

 

[Xplicit Content]

Someone I know brought this up today:

Adam's powers manifested when he was in his 30's (approximately). That's why, 400 years later, he still looks like he's in his 30's. Does that mean that Claire will look like she's 16/17 forever? If not, at what point does she stop 'aging?'

I can't remember, but wasn't it implied Claire survived the fire as baby because of her power? If that's the case, she manifested back then.

I imagine the anti-aging is a conscious effort by Adam. Certain life threatening emergeances might boot the power up automatically, but certain more subtle things (like aging) might take a more refined manipulation. I think this is the aspect of the power that requires practice and effort.

It also falls into line with Peter using his healing to restore his memory. There's no reason why Peter shouldn't have just healed automatically as soon as the Haitian wiped him clean. Adam had to tell Peter to concentrate on healing it. So while certain things like being stabbed, shot, or crushed, might fire up the healing power as the body's survival reflex, Claire and Adam probably have to work on maintaining youth by manipulating their bodies.

Of course, watch Kring shoot holes through my theory next episode when he chooses to reveal Adam doesn't want to be young forever. But if he does that, he brings up some inconsistences in the show.

 

[Eddie Brock]

I can't remember, but wasn't it implied Claire survived the fire as baby because of her power? If that's the case, she manifested back then.

I imagine the anti-aging is a conscious effort by Adam. Certain life threatening emergeances might boot the power up automatically, but certain more subtle things (like aging) might take a more refined manipulation. I think this is the aspect of the power that requires practice and effort.

It also falls into line with Peter using his healing to restore his memory. There's no reason why Peter shouldn't have just healed automatically as soon as the Haitian wiped him clean. Adam had to tell Peter to concentrate on healing it. So while certain things like being stabbed, shot, or crushed, might fire up the healing power as the body's survival reflex, Claire and Adam probably have to work on maintaining youth by manipulating their bodies.

Of course, watch Kring shoot holes through my theory next episode when he chooses to reveal Adam doesn't want to be young forever. But if he does that, he brings up some inconsistences in the show.

That's what Claire assumes, but it was never said that was true. Meredith simply assumed that Claire was dead and got out of there.

I highly doubt it's a conscious effort. That means that Adam must always focus on staying young, and if he gets knocked out/goes to sleep, he'll revert back to his 'old' form. I strongly believe it's just a side-effect of the abilities. The body can't begin to fall apart because it heals itself...hence no wrinkles, gray hair, etc.

 

[Xplicit Content]

Not really. Aging happens as a result of damaged cells, no? All Adam really needs to do is wake up in the morning, and for about a minute, focus on "maintaining" the cells in his body. If he just stays on top of keeping them in good shape, he doesn't always need to concentrate on it. It's just like waking up in the morning and feeding the fish. He wakes up and "feeds" his body with his power to keep it youthful...almost taking sips from the fountain of youth.

And the cells obviously won't revert to dust the second he stops thinking about it...they've been in a constant state of being "rebooted"...they won't just immediately jump into being centuries old. I imagine when Adam decides he wants to grow old, all he'll have to do is stop healing his cells and just start growing old gradually like everyone else.

And I don't really remember the episode, but it seems unlikely Claire will be able to survive a house that was completely burned without a scratch. Wasn't she found in the house after it was already burned down? The smoke inhalation alone would've killed her.

 

[SuBe]

That's what Claire assumes, but it was never said that was true. Meredith simply assumed that Claire was dead and got out of there.

I highly doubt it's a conscious effort. That means that Adam must always focus on staying young, and if he gets knocked out/goes to sleep, he'll revert back to his 'old' form. I strongly believe it's just a side-effect of the abilities. The body can't begin to fall apart because it heals itself...hence no wrinkles, gray hair, etc.

I don't think that it would work as a "conscious effort" type thing. His healing would regenerate it cells automatically and there for not age. I do believe that Claire and Adam have the exact same ability. I believe they are going to be polar opposites, like Peter and Sylar.

Spoiler

Beautiful huh?

 

[Mysterio]

I can't remember, but wasn't it implied Claire survived the fire as baby because of her power? If that's the case, she manifested back then.

Then why would she suddenly be discovering this ability at age 16? It would have been present throughout her entire childhood, and HRG would certainly have been aware of it.

 

[Eddie Brock]

Then why would she suddenly be discovering this ability at age 16? It would have been present throughout her entire childhood, and HRG would certainly have been aware of it.

By the same token, in the movie Unbreakable, the main character (played by Bruce Willis) didn't even realize that he was invincible until it was suggested to him by Samuel L. Jackson's character. People are always taking their health for granted.

That said, I still agree that her powers didn't manifest until Six Months Ago.

(I can't believe I referenced an M. Night Shymalan movie...and not even a really good one at that!)

 

[Xplicit Content]

Then why would she suddenly be discovering this ability at age 16? It would have been present throughout her entire childhood, and HRG would certainly have been aware of it.

It's a valid point, as I doubt Claire went through childhood without falling down and scraping her knee and whatnot...and I admit I never considered that. But who knows, that can probably be explained through the trauma of being burned alive. I wish my memory of Company Man wasn't so fuzzy and I could remember how Claire was found. Her mom always assumed she died in the fire, which led me to believe the Company either went in there and saved her during the fire, or Claire was literally in the house when the fire happened and wasn't found until after the fire was put out...and it's hard to believe someone can manage to stay inside a burned down house.

It's just a theory on my part. We'll have to see how it all plays out. But think about it, once Adam closes a wound, he doesn't need to always concentrate on keeping it closed. Once the wound is healed, it's healed. Same could be said for the aging. Once he heals the "time damage" done to his cells from the previous day, he doesn't need to always concetrate on keeping the cells healed...he's already healed them, same as he doesn't need to maintain his already healed wounds. Plus, there's the Peter situation...Peter always had Claire and Adam's healing...he shouldn't have needed to concentrate on healing his memory if the cell regeneration was completely automatic.

 

[Katsuro]

And I don't really remember the episode, but it seems unlikely Claire will be able to survive a house that was completely burned without a scratch. Wasn't she found in the house after it was already burned down? The smoke inhalation alone would've killed her.

I believe the webcomic showed that Claude and HRG saved her. They went in to grab the mom, the fire started, and they found the baby and took her out of there.

 

[Eddie Brock]

I believe the webcomic showed that Claude and HRG saved her. They went in to grab the mom, the fire started, and they found the baby and took her out of there.

And that is correct! Tell him what he's won!

[ANNOUNCER] He's won the pride and satisfaction of being correct! [/ANNOUNCER]

Hmm...our prizes seem to be slipping in quality this year...