Contest Of Marvels II Discussion Thread

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  1. Harlekin Business

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    Well, yeah, pretty much from oh, #52 onwards, the book started to become garbage (ugh, whoever came up with the Speedball plot there should be shot). Alex Power was one of the last few issues' saving graces as the book started to devolve into insanity. Things were pretty straightforward still until Timeslip was introduced, but damn, when that stuff hit...
     
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    Ok, make any final comments, but it seems like this is the new list. This weekend, lets come up with some ideas on who to add to the comp. Then, maybe we can have the complete list done by Monday or Tuesday.

    Also, hopefully nobody minds, but I missed Night Watch being on the list again. There isn't very much information about him, beside being a rip off of Spawn. Last year I had him, and it was aggrivating not knowing anything about him.

    Alpha Flight
    1. Aurora (Weapon X)
    2. Diamond Lil
    3. Guardian (Mac Hudson)
    4. Madison Jeffries (Weapon X)
    5. Murmur
    6. Northstar (X-Men)
    7. Puck
    8. Sasquatch
    9. Shaman
    10. Snowbird
    11. Wildchild (Weapon X)
    12. Talisman
    13. Windshear
    14. Ranark the Ravager
    15. The Master

    Avengers
    16. Attuma
    17. Bulldozer
    18. Black Knight (Dane Whitman)
    19. Black Panther
    20. Bloodwraith
    21. Captain America
    22. Captain Britain (Kelsey Leigh)
    23. Carol Danvers
    24. Crystal
    25. Diablo
    26. Firebird
    27. Grim Reaper
    28. Hank Pym
    29. Hawkeye
    30. Hercules
    31. Iron Fist
    32. Iron Man
    33. Jack of Hearts
    34. Kang
    35. Klaw
    36. Living Lightning
    37. Lord Templar
    38. Luke Cage
    39. Mandarin
    40. Mantis
    41. Modok
    42. Pagan
    43. Piledriver
    44. The Presence
    45. Proctor
    46. Protocide
    47. Pulsar
    48. Quicksilver
    49. Red Skull
    50. Scarlet Witch
    51. Scott Lang
    52. Sersi
    53. She-Hulk
    54. Silver Claw
    55. Spider Woman (Jessica Drew)
    56. Starfox
    57. Taskmaster
    58. Thunderball
    59. Tigra
    60. Triatholon
    61. Ultron
    62. Vision
    63. War Machine
    64. Wasp
    65. Whirlwind
    66. Wonderman
    67. Wrecker
    68. X-51
    69. Falcon & Redwing
    70. Speed
    71. Ronin
    72. Jocasta
    73. Quasar
    72. The Ghost

    Young Avengers:
    73. Hulkling
    74. Wiccan
    75. Patriot
    76. Stature
    77. Iron Lad

    Cosmic
    78. Drax (Smart)
    79. Firelord
    80. Gamora
    81. Gladiator
    82. Maxam
    83. Moondragon
    84. Terrax
    85. Airwalker
    86. Clea
    87. Adam Warlock
    88. Baron Mordo
    89. Baron Karza
    90. Morg

    exiles
    91. Blink (Exiles)
    92. Magnus (Exiles)
    93. Mimic (Exiles)
    94. Morph (Exiles)
    95. Namora (Exiles)
    96. Nocturne (Exiles)
    97. Spider (Exiles)
    98. Sunfire (Exiles)
    99. Thunderbird (Exiles)
    100. Power Princess (Exiles)
    101. Spider-Man 2099
    102. Armagedon (Exiles)

    Fantastic Four
    103. Agatha Harkness
    104. Annihilus
    105. Devos the Devestator
    106. Doctor Doom
    107. Dragon Man
    108. Frankie Raye
    109. Mr. Fantastic
    110. Gorgon
    111. Grey Gargoyle
    112. Hatemonger
    113. Human Torch
    114. Invisible Woman
    115. Karnak
    116. Lyja Lazerfist
    117. Maximus the Mad
    118. Medusa
    119. Psycho Man
    120. Ronan the Accuser
    121. Super Skrull
    122. Thing
    123. Trapster
    124. Wizard
    125. Mad Thinker
    126. Red Ghost
    127. Ring Leader

    Incredible Hulk

    128. Abomination
    129. Doctor Sampson
    130. Savage Hulk
    131. Iron Clad (U-Foes)
    132. Leader
    133. Maestro
    134. Mr. Hyde
    135. Speed Freak
    136. Super Adaptoid
    137. Vaper (U-Foes)
    138. Vector (U-Foes)
    139. Wendigo
    140. X-Ray (U-Foes)
    141. Zzzax
    142. Armageddon
    143. Bi-Beast
    144. Boomerang
    145. Half Life
    146. Madman
    147. Mercy
    148. Ravage

    Marvel Knights

    149. Black Widow
    150. Bullseye
    151. Daredevil
    152. Elektra
    153. Kingpin
    154. Nick Fury
    155. Owl
    156. Punisher
    157. Shang-Chi
    158. Typhoid Mary
    159. Zaran the Weapons Master
    160. Man-Thing
    161. Gladiator II
    162. Purple Man
    163. Fu Manchu
    164. Yellow Claw
    165. Scorpio

    Midnight Sons

    166. Blackout
    167. Blade the Vampire Hunter
    168. Damien Hellstrom
    169. Deathwatch
    170. Delilah
    171. Ghost Rider (Johnny Blaze)
    172. Hannibal King
    173. Jaine Cutter
    174. Morbius
    175. Patriarch
    176. Metarchus
    177. Foundry
    178. Regent

    New Invaders

    179. Blazing Skull
    180. Namor the Sub-Mariner
    181. Spitfire
    182. US Agent
    183. Union Jack
    184. Thin Man

    New Warriors

    185. Bolt
    186. Firestar
    187. Justice
    188. Namorita
    189. Night Thrasher
    190. Nova
    191. Rage
    192. Silhouette
    193. Speedball
    194. Sphinx
    195. Helix
    196. Hybrid
    197. Alex Powers
    198. Microbe
    199. Debrii
    200. Slapstick
    201. Nitro

    Runaways

    202. Karolina Dean
    203. Molly Hayes
    204. Nico Minoru
    205. Victor Mancha
    206. Darkhawk
    207. Ricochet
    208. Cloak
    209. Dagger
    210. Topher
    211. Swarm

    Spider-Man

    212. Black Cat
    213. Calypso
    214. Cardiac
    215. Carnage
    216. Carrion
    217. Demogoblin
    218. Doctor Octopus
    219. Doppleganger
    220. Electro
    221. Ezekial
    222. Fusion
    223. Green Goblin (Norman)
    224. Hobgoblin (Kingsley)
    225. Hydroman
    226. Jack O-Lantern
    227. Kaine
    228. Kraven the Hunter
    229. Lady Doc Ock
    230. Lizard
    231. Mysterio
    232. Puma
    233. Rhino
    234. Sandman
    235. Scarlet Spider
    236. Scorpion
    237. Shathra
    238. Shocker
    239. Shriek
    240. Spidercide
    241. Spider-Girl
    242. Spiderman (Red & Blue)
    243. Black Tarantula
    244. Tri-sentinel
    245. Venom (Brock)
    246. Vermin
    247. Vulture
    248. The Answer
    249. Armada
    250. Basilist
    251. Crown
    252. Headsman
    253. Lightmaster
    254. Man-Wolf
    255. Morlun
    256. Scorcher
    257. Scream
    258. Shadrac
    259. Toxin
    260. Wraith

    Thor

    261. Absorbing Man
    262. Baldur
    263. Beta Ray Bill
    264. Bloodaxe
    265. Durok the Demolisher
    266. Enchantress
    267. Fandral
    268. Fenris
    269. Heimdall
    270. Hogun
    271. Kurse
    272. Sif
    273. Thor
    274. Thunderstrike
    275. Titania
    276. Ulik
    277. Valkyrie
    278. Vidar
    279. Ares
    280. Man-Beast
    281. Growing Man
    282. King Cobra
    283. Tana Nile
    284. Thaialfi
    285. Thor Girl
    286. Ultimus

    Thunderbolts

    287. Atlas
    288. Baron Zemo
    289. Blizzard
    290. Charcoal
    291. Fixer
    292. Gravitron
    293. Jolt
    294. Joystick
    295. Mach IV
    296. Moonstone
    297. Photon (Genis)
    298. Radioactive Man
    299. Songbird
    300. Speed Demon
    301. Tigershark

    X-Men

    302. Archangel
    303. Banshee
    304. Beast
    305. Bishop
    306. Cable (Telepath)
    307. Cannonball
    308. Chamber (Pre M-Day)
    309. Charles Xavier (Pre M-Day)
    310. Colossus
    311. Cyclops
    312. Dazzler
    313. Emma Frost
    314. Forge
    315. Gambit (X-Men)
    316. Havoc
    317. Husk (AoA)
    318. Iceman
    319. Jean Grey
    320. Joseph
    321. Juggernaut (Villain)
    322. Kitty Pryde
    323. Lifeguard
    324. Longshot
    325. Marrow
    326. Nightcrawler
    327. Northstar (Agent of Hydra)
    328. Polaris (X-Man)
    329. Psylocke (Crimson Dawn)
    330. Rachel Grey
    331. Rogue
    332. Stacey X (Pre M-Day)
    333. Storm
    334. Sunfire (Famine)
    335. Thunderbird III
    336. Wolverine
    337. X-23

    X-Other

    338. Abyss (AoA)
    339. Adam-X
    340. Caliban
    341. Callisto
    342. Captain Britain (Brian Braddock)
    343. Chód
    344. Danielle Moonstar
    345. Deadpool
    346. Domino
    347. Dust
    348. Fantomex
    349. Hellion (Julian)
    350. Jesse Bedlam
    351. Karima Shapandar
    352. Karma
    353. Kylun
    354. Magik (Illyana Rasputin)
    355. Magma
    356. Maverick
    357. Meggan
    358. Meltdown
    359. Mercury
    360. Monet St. Croix
    361. Mondo (AoA)
    362. Multiple Man
    363. Penance
    364. Pete Wisdom
    365. Prodigy (Pre M Day)
    366. Random
    367. Raza
    368. Richter (Pre M-Day)
    369. Rockslide
    370. Shard (Hologram)
    371. Shatterstar
    372. Shola Inkose(Pre M day)
    373. Siryn
    374. Skin
    375. Strong Guy
    376. Sunspot
    377. Surge
    378. Synch
    379. Wallflower(House of M)
    380. Warlock (M Tech)
    381. Warpath
    382. Whither(Pre M Day)
    383. Wind Dancer (Pre M Day)
    384. Wolfesbane
    385. Jubilee
    386. Tag

    X-Villains

    387. Apocalypse
    388. Avalanche
    389. Balasco
    390. Black Tom Cassidy (Pre M-Day)
    391. Blob (Pre M-Day)
    392. Brainchild
    393. Cameron Hodge (X-Tinction Agenda)
    394. Count Neferia
    395. Cyber
    396. Dark Beast
    397. Deathbird
    398. Donald Pierce
    399. Emplate
    400. Exodus
    401. Fabian Cortez
    402. Famine
    403. Gamesmaster
    404. Garrok
    405. Gauntlet
    406. Gazer (War)
    407. Genesis
    408. Gideon
    409. Goblin Queen
    410. Gorgon
    411. Holocaust
    412. Kane (Weapon X)
    413. Kid Omega (Riot at Xavier's)
    414. Lady Deathstrike
    415. Magneto (Pre M-Day)
    416. Mastermind
    417. Mesmero (Pre M-Day)
    418. Mr. Sinister
    419. Moses Magnum
    420. Mystique
    421. New Son
    422. Nimrod
    423. Nuke
    424. Omega Red
    425. Ozymandias
    426. Pestilence
    427. Pyro
    428. Reaper (Pre M-Day)
    429. Riptide
    430. Sabastian Shaw
    431. Sabretooth
    432. Sauron
    433. Scalphunter
    434. Selene
    435. Senyaka
    436. Shinobi Shaw
    437. Silver Samarai
    438. Spiral
    439. Sonia Blaze
    440. Stryfe
    441. Sugar Man
    442. Trevor Fitzroy
    443. Tusk
    444. Uniscone
    445. Unus the Untouchable
    446. Vargas
    447. Vertigo
    448. War
    449. Wildside
    450. Washout (Weapon X)
    451. X-Cutioner
    452. Zaladane
    453. Ahab

    X-Men 2099

    454. Xi'an Chi Xan
    455. Shakti Haddad
    456. Metalhead
    457. Bloodhawk
    458. Skullfire
    459. Junkpile
    460. Halloween Jack
    461. La Lunatica
    462. Breakdown
    463. Brimstone Love


    Others

    464. Bloodstorm
    465. Brother Voodoo
    466. Constrictor
    467. Deadgirl
    468. Deathloc
    469. Death's Head II
    470. Dusk
    471. Fallen
    472. Gravity
    473. Hisako Ichiki
    474. Hornet
    475. J2
    476. Moon Knight
    477. Prodigy (Slingers)
    478. Prowler
    479. Sleepwalker
    480. Quake
    481. Ch'vayre
    482. Paibok the Power Skrull
     
  3. Phaedrus45 Registered

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    YEAH! SHH is back!

    Anyway, here is a list of some characters I came up with over the weekend. Not sure what the bios are like online, but they were all in the Essential Official Handbooks, Vol. 1-3. Some we might already have, too. I just didn't have a chance to look up our list.

    1) American Eagle
    2) Ares
    3) Arkon
    4) Asp
    5) Blacklash
    6) Cobra
    7) Controller (Maybe too powerful...not sure)
    8) Darkstar
    9)Dreadnought
    10) D'Spayre
    11) Gargoyle
    12) Starhawk (Guardians Of The Galaxy)
    13) Yondu (G.O.T.G.)
    14) Vance Astro (G.O.T.G.)
    15) Martinex (G.O.T.G.)
    16) Charlie 27 (G.O.T.G.)
    17) Nikki (G.O.T.G.)
    18) Empath
    21) Her
    22) Killer Shrike
    23) Lightmaster
    24) Man-Ape
    25) Mandrill
    26) Mister Fear
    27) Plantman
    28) Pluto
    29) Shroud
    30) Vanguard
    31) Volcana
    32) Will O' The Wisp
    33) Yellow Claw
    34) Baron Blood
    35) Basilisk
    36) Executioner
    37) Living Colossus
    38) Lilith
    39) Professor Power

    Also, we forgot about the Great Lakes Avengers/X-Men/Champions, like Squirrel Girl. Gotta have Squirrel Girl!!!
     
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  5. wiegeabo Omniposcient

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    So nice to be back.

    Taking a couple of seconds to glance over the list. Her is a female Adam Warlock with similar power levels, although her I want to say her powers are somewhat different.

    Will O' The Wisp has good potential.
     
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    I'm pretty sure D'spayre is tuber. I'll have to look over the rest later. I don't have time now.
     
  7. wiegeabo Omniposcient

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    Looking at the new list:

    Would like to know the type of bolts American Eagle shoots.

    Is that Ares the Eternal?

    Asp and Backslash don't seem too good. Although Backslash's whip cutting through everything short of Adamantium is a nice touch.

    Cobra I think we already had.

    Controller sounds good. It's just that his mental controls would probably make short work of everyone but top metalists.

    Is this the Gargoyle? http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/g/gargoyleii.htm

    I'm not sure what Yondu can contribute.


    I'll get to the rest later.
     
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    No, it's Ares the Olympian, and recently in his own hot miniseries.

    Yes, it's that Gargoyle.
     
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    American_Eagle - We already have Hawkeye, and I'm not so sure that he'd go far.

    Ares - I say yes. He's strong, but not so tuber that he'd ruin the competition.

    Arkon - Not digging him at all. Just doesn't seem like a stand-out fighter who'd go far.

    Asp - On the fence with her. It'd take a lot of work for her to take out anybody, but at least she isn't another fighter w/ magical weaponry (sp?)

    Basilisk - Yes for him.

    Baron_Blood - He's a tad cheesy looking, but I approve of him. I like characters that'll really require someone to think about the environment.

    Blacklash -No for him.

    Cobra - Yes

    More thoughts on the others coming up.
     
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    So far I'm liking: Ares, Basalisk, Cobra, Controller, Dreadnaught, Empath, Killer Shrike, Mandrill, Plant Man, Will O' the Wisp, Yellow Claw, Mr. Immortal, Doorman, Big Bertha, Mainframe (MC2), Wild Thing (MC2), and Darkdevil (MC2)

    Clarion, Nostromo, and Twilight from X-Nation seem interesting, but I can't find a bio on them :(



    And by the way... I love this addition to the powers section of Squirrel Girl on Wiki...

     
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    OK, we have 30 slots open for characters. So far, it looks like four can advance, with three votes for them: Will O' The Wisp, Ares, Basilisk, and Cobra.

    (Now, are you giving Squirrel Girl a vote, JH? I didn't see her on your list! DAMMIT, I WANT SQUIRREL GIRL!!!) ehem....yah.

    Anyway, besides characters you like, make sure you name those you really wouldn't like to see in the tournament; that way we can dispose of those definitely.

    Also, I PMed Powderman about whether he wished to assist at all in the tournament, especially when it comes to making up the locations. I haven't heard back; so, after this, we'll need to come up with some locations that can be dispersed randomly throughout each week.
     
  12. wiegeabo Omniposcient

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    I still need to look at the rest, but drop Man-Ape. A guy who dresses like a gorilla, with the strength and fighting style of a gorilla won't make it past the first round without a lucky draw.
     
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    I thought I'd throw Jim Hammond back out there, and then you can always count on the X-Men giving you tons of potential characters.

    Jim Hammond

    Switchback (AoA)

    Demask

    Mountjoy

    Switch

    Sway

    Petra

    Pipeline

    Archer

    Cerebro

    Harvest

    Kamikaze

    Cerebro had created 5 X-Men, and I think individually they'd all be cool picks for the tourney. I couldn't find individual bios, but this Wiki one describes each of their powers and such well enough.... False X-Men

    Chrome

    Commando

    Gorgeous George

    Harry Leland

    Locus

    Paradigm

    Paulie Provenzano

    Domina

    Ruckus

    Spoor

    Super Sabre

    Tempo
     
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    All the ones listed would count as a vote for me. And no, I didn't add Squirrel Girl to the list. I like her too, but I just think we can do better :(
     
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    Besides listing those above... from the list I think I'd like to OFFICIALLY recommend and vote for these below:

    Jim Hammond, Demask, Mountjoy, Harvest, Commando, Gorgeous George, Harry Leland, Chrome, and Cerebro.
     
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    I third the nominations for Jim Hammond, Georgeous George and Harvest.

    I'm interested in Domina (though, trying to still understand her powers) and Ruckus. Also, Kamikaze and Petra seem kind of good.

    Some characters don't have a lot of information, and I didn't like those who deal with time travel or body switching, like Mountjoy and Switch. They just bring back bad memories of trying to figure out if I was going to vote for Malice last season. Also, Sway's bio didn't go to him.
     
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    OK, so far 7 definites, with 23 spots to go.
     
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    Sway But she's kind of a time messing with person, so you may not like her.

    And your vote would actually be 2nd, not 3rd, so we may need another person to confirm Jim, George, and Harvest. Ruckus is pretty much similar to Banshee, though I'm not sure if he's as powerful. He can pretty much take any sound, no matter how small, and amplify it in a scream that's deafening and such. If there is no sound, he is powerless, if there is tiny sound, he's strong. That kinda thing. And Domina can basically use all the powers of the Neo, but I'll try to find an online list of those powers.
     
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    Hammond, George, and Harvest sound good. (What are the differences between Hammond and Johnny Storm besides being an android?)

    I'd rather not see Mountjoy. All he'd really be able to do is absorb the enemy. Not much of a battle.
     
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    Sway sounds cool since the time manipulation is so confined. Quick or massive attacks may work against her. She just may be hard to write without abusing her power.
     
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    Also, I know we already have Hawkeye and Cap, but are you guys up to adding Ultimate Hawkeye and Ultimate Captain America? I think they're both uniquely differant enough to stand on their own.

    Ultimate Hawkeye (scroll down some)

    Ultimate Captain America (scroll down some)
     
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    Hammond has more experience and is calmer minded than Johnny. He is less prone to take the chances that Johnny does, but he is more prone to battle wisely and more calculatingly. He also has differant resources, though I'm not sure what those would be. What comes with the V Batallion?
     
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    OH, DUH!

    I thought Wieg put up the original list and you responded, that's why I counted three votes. I didn't look close enough and saw JH put up the list of contenders.
     
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    I don't think they're different enough, JH. Speaking of X-characters, did we rule out Darwin? I was a bit curious about him.
     

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