Contest Of Marvels II Discussion Thread

Well, yeah, pretty much from oh, #52 onwards, the book started to become garbage (ugh, whoever came up with the Speedball plot there should be shot). Alex Power was one of the last few issues' saving graces as the book started to devolve into insanity. Things were pretty straightforward still until Timeslip was introduced, but damn, when that stuff hit...
 
Ok, make any final comments, but it seems like this is the new list. This weekend, lets come up with some ideas on who to add to the comp. Then, maybe we can have the complete list done by Monday or Tuesday.

Also, hopefully nobody minds, but I missed Night Watch being on the list again. There isn't very much information about him, beside being a rip off of Spawn. Last year I had him, and it was aggrivating not knowing anything about him.

Alpha Flight
1. Aurora (Weapon X)
2. Diamond Lil
3. Guardian (Mac Hudson)
4. Madison Jeffries (Weapon X)
5. Murmur
6. Northstar (X-Men)
7. Puck
8. Sasquatch
9. Shaman
10. Snowbird
11. Wildchild (Weapon X)
12. Talisman
13. Windshear
14. Ranark the Ravager
15. The Master

Avengers
16. Attuma
17. Bulldozer
18. Black Knight (Dane Whitman)
19. Black Panther
20. Bloodwraith
21. Captain America
22. Captain Britain (Kelsey Leigh)
23. Carol Danvers
24. Crystal
25. Diablo
26. Firebird
27. Grim Reaper
28. Hank Pym
29. Hawkeye
30. Hercules
31. Iron Fist
32. Iron Man
33. Jack of Hearts
34. Kang
35. Klaw
36. Living Lightning
37. Lord Templar
38. Luke Cage
39. Mandarin
40. Mantis
41. Modok
42. Pagan
43. Piledriver
44. The Presence
45. Proctor
46. Protocide
47. Pulsar
48. Quicksilver
49. Red Skull
50. Scarlet Witch
51. Scott Lang
52. Sersi
53. She-Hulk
54. Silver Claw
55. Spider Woman (Jessica Drew)
56. Starfox
57. Taskmaster
58. Thunderball
59. Tigra
60. Triatholon
61. Ultron
62. Vision
63. War Machine
64. Wasp
65. Whirlwind
66. Wonderman
67. Wrecker
68. X-51
69. Falcon & Redwing
70. Speed
71. Ronin
72. Jocasta
73. Quasar
72. The Ghost

Young Avengers:
73. Hulkling
74. Wiccan
75. Patriot
76. Stature
77. Iron Lad

Cosmic
78. Drax (Smart)
79. Firelord
80. Gamora
81. Gladiator
82. Maxam
83. Moondragon
84. Terrax
85. Airwalker
86. Clea
87. Adam Warlock
88. Baron Mordo
89. Baron Karza
90. Morg

exiles
91. Blink (Exiles)
92. Magnus (Exiles)
93. Mimic (Exiles)
94. Morph (Exiles)
95. Namora (Exiles)
96. Nocturne (Exiles)
97. Spider (Exiles)
98. Sunfire (Exiles)
99. Thunderbird (Exiles)
100. Power Princess (Exiles)
101. Spider-Man 2099
102. Armagedon (Exiles)

Fantastic Four
103. Agatha Harkness
104. Annihilus
105. Devos the Devestator
106. Doctor Doom
107. Dragon Man
108. Frankie Raye
109. Mr. Fantastic
110. Gorgon
111. Grey Gargoyle
112. Hatemonger
113. Human Torch
114. Invisible Woman
115. Karnak
116. Lyja Lazerfist
117. Maximus the Mad
118. Medusa
119. Psycho Man
120. Ronan the Accuser
121. Super Skrull
122. Thing
123. Trapster
124. Wizard
125. Mad Thinker
126. Red Ghost
127. Ring Leader

Incredible Hulk

128. Abomination
129. Doctor Sampson
130. Savage Hulk
131. Iron Clad (U-Foes)
132. Leader
133. Maestro
134. Mr. Hyde
135. Speed Freak
136. Super Adaptoid
137. Vaper (U-Foes)
138. Vector (U-Foes)
139. Wendigo
140. X-Ray (U-Foes)
141. Zzzax
142. Armageddon
143. Bi-Beast
144. Boomerang
145. Half Life
146. Madman
147. Mercy
148. Ravage

Marvel Knights

149. Black Widow
150. Bullseye
151. Daredevil
152. Elektra
153. Kingpin
154. Nick Fury
155. Owl
156. Punisher
157. Shang-Chi
158. Typhoid Mary
159. Zaran the Weapons Master
160. Man-Thing
161. Gladiator II
162. Purple Man
163. Fu Manchu
164. Yellow Claw
165. Scorpio

Midnight Sons

166. Blackout
167. Blade the Vampire Hunter
168. Damien Hellstrom
169. Deathwatch
170. Delilah
171. Ghost Rider (Johnny Blaze)
172. Hannibal King
173. Jaine Cutter
174. Morbius
175. Patriarch
176. Metarchus
177. Foundry
178. Regent

New Invaders

179. Blazing Skull
180. Namor the Sub-Mariner
181. Spitfire
182. US Agent
183. Union Jack
184. Thin Man

New Warriors

185. Bolt
186. Firestar
187. Justice
188. Namorita
189. Night Thrasher
190. Nova
191. Rage
192. Silhouette
193. Speedball
194. Sphinx
195. Helix
196. Hybrid
197. Alex Powers
198. Microbe
199. Debrii
200. Slapstick
201. Nitro

Runaways

202. Karolina Dean
203. Molly Hayes
204. Nico Minoru
205. Victor Mancha
206. Darkhawk
207. Ricochet
208. Cloak
209. Dagger
210. Topher
211. Swarm

Spider-Man

212. Black Cat
213. Calypso
214. Cardiac
215. Carnage
216. Carrion
217. Demogoblin
218. Doctor Octopus
219. Doppleganger
220. Electro
221. Ezekial
222. Fusion
223. Green Goblin (Norman)
224. Hobgoblin (Kingsley)
225. Hydroman
226. Jack O-Lantern
227. Kaine
228. Kraven the Hunter
229. Lady Doc Ock
230. Lizard
231. Mysterio
232. Puma
233. Rhino
234. Sandman
235. Scarlet Spider
236. Scorpion
237. Shathra
238. Shocker
239. Shriek
240. Spidercide
241. Spider-Girl
242. Spiderman (Red & Blue)
243. Black Tarantula
244. Tri-sentinel
245. Venom (Brock)
246. Vermin
247. Vulture
248. The Answer
249. Armada
250. Basilist
251. Crown
252. Headsman
253. Lightmaster
254. Man-Wolf
255. Morlun
256. Scorcher
257. Scream
258. Shadrac
259. Toxin
260. Wraith

Thor

261. Absorbing Man
262. Baldur
263. Beta Ray Bill
264. Bloodaxe
265. Durok the Demolisher
266. Enchantress
267. Fandral
268. Fenris
269. Heimdall
270. Hogun
271. Kurse
272. Sif
273. Thor
274. Thunderstrike
275. Titania
276. Ulik
277. Valkyrie
278. Vidar
279. Ares
280. Man-Beast
281. Growing Man
282. King Cobra
283. Tana Nile
284. Thaialfi
285. Thor Girl
286. Ultimus

Thunderbolts

287. Atlas
288. Baron Zemo
289. Blizzard
290. Charcoal
291. Fixer
292. Gravitron
293. Jolt
294. Joystick
295. Mach IV
296. Moonstone
297. Photon (Genis)
298. Radioactive Man
299. Songbird
300. Speed Demon
301. Tigershark

X-Men

302. Archangel
303. Banshee
304. Beast
305. Bishop
306. Cable (Telepath)
307. Cannonball
308. Chamber (Pre M-Day)
309. Charles Xavier (Pre M-Day)
310. Colossus
311. Cyclops
312. Dazzler
313. Emma Frost
314. Forge
315. Gambit (X-Men)
316. Havoc
317. Husk (AoA)
318. Iceman
319. Jean Grey
320. Joseph
321. Juggernaut (Villain)
322. Kitty Pryde
323. Lifeguard
324. Longshot
325. Marrow
326. Nightcrawler
327. Northstar (Agent of Hydra)
328. Polaris (X-Man)
329. Psylocke (Crimson Dawn)
330. Rachel Grey
331. Rogue
332. Stacey X (Pre M-Day)
333. Storm
334. Sunfire (Famine)
335. Thunderbird III
336. Wolverine
337. X-23

X-Other

338. Abyss (AoA)
339. Adam-X
340. Caliban
341. Callisto
342. Captain Britain (Brian Braddock)
343. Chód
344. Danielle Moonstar
345. Deadpool
346. Domino
347. Dust
348. Fantomex
349. Hellion (Julian)
350. Jesse Bedlam
351. Karima Shapandar
352. Karma
353. Kylun
354. Magik (Illyana Rasputin)
355. Magma
356. Maverick
357. Meggan
358. Meltdown
359. Mercury
360. Monet St. Croix
361. Mondo (AoA)
362. Multiple Man
363. Penance
364. Pete Wisdom
365. Prodigy (Pre M Day)
366. Random
367. Raza
368. Richter (Pre M-Day)
369. Rockslide
370. Shard (Hologram)
371. Shatterstar
372. Shola Inkose(Pre M day)
373. Siryn
374. Skin
375. Strong Guy
376. Sunspot
377. Surge
378. Synch
379. Wallflower(House of M)
380. Warlock (M Tech)
381. Warpath
382. Whither(Pre M Day)
383. Wind Dancer (Pre M Day)
384. Wolfesbane
385. Jubilee
386. Tag

X-Villains

387. Apocalypse
388. Avalanche
389. Balasco
390. Black Tom Cassidy (Pre M-Day)
391. Blob (Pre M-Day)
392. Brainchild
393. Cameron Hodge (X-Tinction Agenda)
394. Count Neferia
395. Cyber
396. Dark Beast
397. Deathbird
398. Donald Pierce
399. Emplate
400. Exodus
401. Fabian Cortez
402. Famine
403. Gamesmaster
404. Garrok
405. Gauntlet
406. Gazer (War)
407. Genesis
408. Gideon
409. Goblin Queen
410. Gorgon
411. Holocaust
412. Kane (Weapon X)
413. Kid Omega (Riot at Xavier's)
414. Lady Deathstrike
415. Magneto (Pre M-Day)
416. Mastermind
417. Mesmero (Pre M-Day)
418. Mr. Sinister
419. Moses Magnum
420. Mystique
421. New Son
422. Nimrod
423. Nuke
424. Omega Red
425. Ozymandias
426. Pestilence
427. Pyro
428. Reaper (Pre M-Day)
429. Riptide
430. Sabastian Shaw
431. Sabretooth
432. Sauron
433. Scalphunter
434. Selene
435. Senyaka
436. Shinobi Shaw
437. Silver Samarai
438. Spiral
439. Sonia Blaze
440. Stryfe
441. Sugar Man
442. Trevor Fitzroy
443. Tusk
444. Uniscone
445. Unus the Untouchable
446. Vargas
447. Vertigo
448. War
449. Wildside
450. Washout (Weapon X)
451. X-Cutioner
452. Zaladane
453. Ahab

X-Men 2099

454. Xi'an Chi Xan
455. Shakti Haddad
456. Metalhead
457. Bloodhawk
458. Skullfire
459. Junkpile
460. Halloween Jack
461. La Lunatica
462. Breakdown
463. Brimstone Love


Others

464. Bloodstorm
465. Brother Voodoo
466. Constrictor
467. Deadgirl
468. Deathloc
469. Death's Head II
470. Dusk
471. Fallen
472. Gravity
473. Hisako Ichiki
474. Hornet
475. J2
476. Moon Knight
477. Prodigy (Slingers)
478. Prowler
479. Sleepwalker
480. Quake
481. Ch'vayre
482. Paibok the Power Skrull
 
YEAH! SHH is back!

Anyway, here is a list of some characters I came up with over the weekend. Not sure what the bios are like online, but they were all in the Essential Official Handbooks, Vol. 1-3. Some we might already have, too. I just didn't have a chance to look up our list.

1) American Eagle
2) Ares
3) Arkon
4) Asp
5) Blacklash
6) Cobra
7) Controller (Maybe too powerful...not sure)
8) Darkstar
9)Dreadnought
10) D'Spayre
11) Gargoyle
12) Starhawk (Guardians Of The Galaxy)
13) Yondu (G.O.T.G.)
14) Vance Astro (G.O.T.G.)
15) Martinex (G.O.T.G.)
16) Charlie 27 (G.O.T.G.)
17) Nikki (G.O.T.G.)
18) Empath
21) Her
22) Killer Shrike
23) Lightmaster
24) Man-Ape
25) Mandrill
26) Mister Fear
27) Plantman
28) Pluto
29) Shroud
30) Vanguard
31) Volcana
32) Will O' The Wisp
33) Yellow Claw
34) Baron Blood
35) Basilisk
36) Executioner
37) Living Colossus
38) Lilith
39) Professor Power

Also, we forgot about the Great Lakes Avengers/X-Men/Champions, like Squirrel Girl. Gotta have Squirrel Girl!!!
 
So nice to be back.

Taking a couple of seconds to glance over the list. Her is a female Adam Warlock with similar power levels, although her I want to say her powers are somewhat different.

Will O' The Wisp has good potential.
 
I'm pretty sure D'spayre is tuber. I'll have to look over the rest later. I don't have time now.
 
Looking at the new list:

Would like to know the type of bolts American Eagle shoots.

Is that Ares the Eternal?

Asp and Backslash don't seem too good. Although Backslash's whip cutting through everything short of Adamantium is a nice touch.

Cobra I think we already had.

Controller sounds good. It's just that his mental controls would probably make short work of everyone but top metalists.

Is this the Gargoyle? http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/g/gargoyleii.htm

I'm not sure what Yondu can contribute.


I'll get to the rest later.
 
wiegeabo said:
Looking at the new list:

Would like to know the type of bolts American Eagle shoots.

Is that Ares the Eternal?

Asp and Backslash don't seem too good. Although Backslash's whip cutting through everything short of Adamantium is a nice touch.

Cobra I think we already had.

Controller sounds good. It's just that his mental controls would probably make short work of everyone but top metalists.

Is this the Gargoyle? http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/g/gargoyleii.htm

I'm not sure what Yondu can contribute.


I'll get to the rest later.

No, it's Ares the Olympian, and recently in his own hot miniseries.

Yes, it's that Gargoyle.
 
American_Eagle - We already have Hawkeye, and I'm not so sure that he'd go far.

Ares - I say yes. He's strong, but not so tuber that he'd ruin the competition.

Arkon - Not digging him at all. Just doesn't seem like a stand-out fighter who'd go far.

Asp - On the fence with her. It'd take a lot of work for her to take out anybody, but at least she isn't another fighter w/ magical weaponry (sp?)

Basilisk - Yes for him.

Baron_Blood - He's a tad cheesy looking, but I approve of him. I like characters that'll really require someone to think about the environment.

Blacklash -No for him.

Cobra - Yes

More thoughts on the others coming up.
 
So far I'm liking: Ares, Basalisk, Cobra, Controller, Dreadnaught, Empath, Killer Shrike, Mandrill, Plant Man, Will O' the Wisp, Yellow Claw, Mr. Immortal, Doorman, Big Bertha, Mainframe (MC2), Wild Thing (MC2), and Darkdevil (MC2)

Clarion, Nostromo, and Twilight from X-Nation seem interesting, but I can't find a bio on them :(



And by the way... I love this addition to the powers section of Squirrel Girl on Wiki...

Wiki said:
meta ability to defeat opponents seemingly out of her class
 
OK, we have 30 slots open for characters. So far, it looks like four can advance, with three votes for them: Will O' The Wisp, Ares, Basilisk, and Cobra.

(Now, are you giving Squirrel Girl a vote, JH? I didn't see her on your list! DAMMIT, I WANT SQUIRREL GIRL!!!) ehem....yah.

Anyway, besides characters you like, make sure you name those you really wouldn't like to see in the tournament; that way we can dispose of those definitely.

Also, I PMed Powderman about whether he wished to assist at all in the tournament, especially when it comes to making up the locations. I haven't heard back; so, after this, we'll need to come up with some locations that can be dispersed randomly throughout each week.
 
I still need to look at the rest, but drop Man-Ape. A guy who dresses like a gorilla, with the strength and fighting style of a gorilla won't make it past the first round without a lucky draw.
 
I thought I'd throw Jim Hammond back out there, and then you can always count on the X-Men giving you tons of potential characters.

Jim Hammond

Switchback (AoA)

Demask

Mountjoy

Switch

Sway

Petra

Pipeline

Archer

Cerebro

Harvest

Kamikaze

Cerebro had created 5 X-Men, and I think individually they'd all be cool picks for the tourney. I couldn't find individual bios, but this Wiki one describes each of their powers and such well enough.... False X-Men

Chrome

Commando

Gorgeous George

Harry Leland

Locus

Paradigm

Paulie Provenzano

Domina

Ruckus

Spoor

Super Sabre

Tempo
 
Phaedrus45 said:
OK, we have 30 slots open for characters. So far, it looks like four can advance, with three votes for them: Will O' The Wisp, Ares, Basilisk, and Cobra.

(Now, are you giving Squirrel Girl a vote, JH? I didn't see her on your list! DAMMIT, I WANT SQUIRREL GIRL!!!) ehem....yah.

Anyway, besides characters you like, make sure you name those you really wouldn't like to see in the tournament; that way we can dispose of those definitely.

Also, I PMed Powderman about whether he wished to assist at all in the tournament, especially when it comes to making up the locations. I haven't heard back; so, after this, we'll need to come up with some locations that can be dispersed randomly throughout each week.

All the ones listed would count as a vote for me. And no, I didn't add Squirrel Girl to the list. I like her too, but I just think we can do better :(
 
Besides listing those above... from the list I think I'd like to OFFICIALLY recommend and vote for these below:

Jim Hammond, Demask, Mountjoy, Harvest, Commando, Gorgeous George, Harry Leland, Chrome, and Cerebro.
 
I third the nominations for Jim Hammond, Georgeous George and Harvest.

I'm interested in Domina (though, trying to still understand her powers) and Ruckus. Also, Kamikaze and Petra seem kind of good.

Some characters don't have a lot of information, and I didn't like those who deal with time travel or body switching, like Mountjoy and Switch. They just bring back bad memories of trying to figure out if I was going to vote for Malice last season. Also, Sway's bio didn't go to him.
 
Phaedrus45 said:
I third the nominations for Jim Hammond, Georgeous George and Harvest.

I'm interested in Domina (though, trying to still understand her powers) and Ruckus. Also, Kamikaze and Petra seem kind of good.

Some characters don't have a lot of information, and I didn't like those who deal with time travel or body switching, like Mountjoy and Switch. They just bring back bad memories of trying to figure out if I was going to vote for Malice last season. Also, Sway's bio didn't go to him.

Sway But she's kind of a time messing with person, so you may not like her.

And your vote would actually be 2nd, not 3rd, so we may need another person to confirm Jim, George, and Harvest. Ruckus is pretty much similar to Banshee, though I'm not sure if he's as powerful. He can pretty much take any sound, no matter how small, and amplify it in a scream that's deafening and such. If there is no sound, he is powerless, if there is tiny sound, he's strong. That kinda thing. And Domina can basically use all the powers of the Neo, but I'll try to find an online list of those powers.
 
Hammond, George, and Harvest sound good. (What are the differences between Hammond and Johnny Storm besides being an android?)

I'd rather not see Mountjoy. All he'd really be able to do is absorb the enemy. Not much of a battle.
 
Sway sounds cool since the time manipulation is so confined. Quick or massive attacks may work against her. She just may be hard to write without abusing her power.
 
Also, I know we already have Hawkeye and Cap, but are you guys up to adding Ultimate Hawkeye and Ultimate Captain America? I think they're both uniquely differant enough to stand on their own.

Ultimate Hawkeye (scroll down some)

Ultimate Captain America (scroll down some)
 
wiegeabo said:
Hammond, George, and Harvest sound good. (What are the differences between Hammond and Johnny Storm besides being an android?)

I'd rather not see Mountjoy. All he'd really be able to do is absorb the enemy. Not much of a battle.

Hammond has more experience and is calmer minded than Johnny. He is less prone to take the chances that Johnny does, but he is more prone to battle wisely and more calculatingly. He also has differant resources, though I'm not sure what those would be. What comes with the V Batallion?
 
OH, DUH!

I thought Wieg put up the original list and you responded, that's why I counted three votes. I didn't look close enough and saw JH put up the list of contenders.
 
I don't think they're different enough, JH. Speaking of X-characters, did we rule out Darwin? I was a bit curious about him.
 

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