Contest Of Marvels II Discussion Thread

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  1. wiegeabo Omniposcient

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    That's right. Thanks.
     
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    For the current list, most of them are alright by me. My reservations would be on the following:

    Namor (Ultimate) - Probably not enough information, especially considering he's only been in three issues of Ultimate FF.

    Viper - I'll second a previous nomination. Just another gal with guns.

    Alex Powers - Never has done anything for me as a character.

    Tarantula - I'd like this to be Black Tarantula from Spider-Girl comics. In fact, maybe for some filler, we should bring in some of the M2 characters, like Darkdevil and such.
     
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    I say drop Namor (Ultimate). As far as I know, he's pretty much a lot like Namor, but more of a dick. Also, Alex Power rocks, we need to keep him. :D
     
  4. wiegeabo Omniposcient

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    Drop Namor (Ultimate) and Viper. Although the Ult Namor bio does have a different power set than Namor, we really don't know anything about him.

    Alex's power is gravity manipulation, and I think we have Gravity already, so do we really need another gravity manipulator? (Could be a cool fight between them though.)

    Black Tarantula sounds better than Tarantula (maybe we could have both).
     
  5. wiegeabo Omniposcient

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    Someone's more of a dick than Namor can be! :eek:
     
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    I actually agree with this. She falls in the same boat as the other Eternals, I just completely overlooked her.
     
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    Come on! How tough can she and Thena be? They're just girls. Beak could take them out.
     
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    OK, here is part 1 & 2. Let me know if there are anymore reservations, but this list seems pretty easy, and there isn't much to debate. Some of these characters in part 2 are unknown by most people; so, I'm betting a gem or two is going to emerge as a major threat.

    Alpha Flight
    1. Aurora (Weapon X)
    2. Diamond Lil
    3. Guardian (Mac Hudson)
    4. Madison Jeffries (Weapon X)
    5. Murmur
    6. Northstar (X-Men)
    7. Puck
    8. Sasquatch
    9. Shaman
    10. Snowbird
    11. Wildchild (Weapon X)
    12. Talisman
    13. Windshear
    14. Ranark the Ravager
    15. The Master

    Avengers
    16. Attuma
    17. Bulldozer
    18. Black Knight (Dane Whitman)
    19. Black Panther
    20. Bloodwraith
    21. Captain America
    22. Captain Britain (Kelsey Leigh)
    23. Carol Danvers
    24. Crystal
    25. Diablo
    26. Firebird
    27. Grim Reaper
    28. Hank Pym
    29. Hawkeye
    30. Hercules
    31. Iron Fist
    32. Iron Man
    33. Jack of Hearts
    34. Kang
    35. Klaw
    36. Living Lightning
    37. Lord Templar
    38. Luke Cage
    39. Mandarin
    40. Mantis
    41. Modok
    42. Pagan
    43. Piledriver
    44. The Presence
    45. Proctor
    46. Protocide
    47. Pulsar
    48. Quicksilver
    49. Red Skull
    50. Scarlet Witch
    51. Scott Lang
    52. Sersi
    53. She-Hulk
    54. Silver Claw
    55. Spider Woman (Jessica Drew)
    56. Starfox
    57. Taskmaster
    58. Thunderball
    59. Tigra
    60. Triatholon
    61. Ultron
    62. Vision
    63. War Machine
    64. Wasp
    65. Whirlwind
    66. Wonderman
    67. Wrecker
    68. X-51
    69. Falcon & Redwing
    70. Speed
    71. Ronin
    72. Jocasta
    73. Quasar
    72. The Ghost

    Young Avengers:
    73. Hulkling
    74. Wiccan
    75. Patriot
    76. Stature
    77. Iron Lad

    Cosmic
    78. Drax (Smart)
    79. Firelord
    80. Gamora
    81. Gladiator
    82. Maxam
    83. Moondragon
    84. Terrax
    85. Airwalker
    86. Clea
    87. Adam Warlock
    88. Baron Mordo
    89. Baron Karza
    90. Morg

    exiles
    91. Blink (Exiles)
    92. Magnus (Exiles)
    93. Mimic (Exiles)
    94. Morph (Exiles)
    95. Namora (Exiles)
    96. Nocturne (Exiles)
    97. Spider (Exiles)
    98. Sunfire (Exiles)
    99. Thunderbird (Exiles)
    100. Power Princess (Exiles)
    101. Spider-Man 2099
    102. Armagedon (Exiles)

    Fantastic Four
    103. Agatha Harkness
    104. Annihilus
    105. Devos the Devestator
    106. Doctor Doom
    107. Dragon Man
    108. Frankie Raye
    109. Mr. Fantastic
    110. Gorgon
    111. Grey Gargoyle
    112. Hatemonger
    113. Human Torch
    114. Invisible Woman
    115. Karnak
    116. Lyja Lazerfist
    117. Maximus the Mad
    118. Medusa
    119. Psycho Man
    120. Ronan the Accuser
    121. Super Skrull
    122. Thing
    123. Trapster
    124. Wizard
    125. Mad Thinker
    126. Red Ghost
    127. Ring Leader

    Incredible Hulk

    128. Abomination
    129. Doctor Sampson
    130. Savage Hulk
    131. Iron Clad (U-Foes)
    132. Leader
    133. Maestro
    134. Mr. Hyde
    135. Speed Freak
    136. Super Adaptoid
    137. Vaper (U-Foes)
    138. Vector (U-Foes)
    139. Wendigo
    140. X-Ray (U-Foes)
    141. Zzzax
    142. Armageddon
    143. Bi-Beast
    144. Boomerang
    145. Half Life
    146. Madman
    147. Mercy
    148. Ravage

    Marvel Knights

    149. Black Widow
    150. Bullseye
    151. Daredevil
    152. Elektra
    153. Kingpin
    154. Nick Fury
    155. Owl
    156. Punisher
    157. Shang-Chi
    158. Typhoid Mary
    159. Zaran the Weapons Master
    160. Man-Thing
    161. Gladiator II
    162. Purple Man
    163. Fu Manchu
    164. Yellow Claw
    165. Scorpio

    Midnight Sons

    166. Blackout
    167. Blade the Vampire Hunter
    168. Damien Hellstrom
    169. Deathwatch
    170. Delilah
    171. Ghost Rider (Johnny Blaze)
    172. Hannibal King
    173. Jaine Cutter
    174. Morbius
    175. Patriarch
    176. Metarchus
    177. Foundry
    178. Regent

    New Invaders

    179. Blazing Skull
    180. Namor the Sub-Mariner
    181. Spitfire
    182. US Agent
    183. Union Jack
    184. Thin Man

    New Warriors

    185. Bolt
    186. Firestar
    187. Justice
    188. Namorita
    189. Night Thrasher
    190. Nova
    191. Rage
    192. Silhouette
    193. Speedball
    194. Sphinx
    195. Helix
    196. Hybrid
    197. Alex Powers
    198. Microbe
    199. Debrii
    200. Slapstick
    201. Nitro

    Runaways

    202. Karolina Dean
    203. Molly Hayes
    204. Nico Minoru
    205. Victor Mancha
    206. Darkhawk
    207. Ricochet
    208. Cloak
    209. Dagger
    210. Topher
    211. Swarm

    Spider-Man

    212. Black Cat
    213. Calypso
    214. Cardiac
    215. Carnage
    216. Carrion
    217. Demogoblin
    218. Doctor Octopus
    219. Doppleganger
    220. Electro
    221. Ezekial
    222. Fusion
    223. Green Goblin (Norman)
    224. Hobgoblin (Kingsley)
    225. Hydroman
    226. Jack O-Lantern
    227. Kaine
    228. Kraven the Hunter
    229. Lady Doc Ock
    230. Lizard
    231. Mysterio
    232. Puma
    233. Rhino
    234. Sandman
    235. Scarlet Spider
    236. Scorpion
    237. Shathra
    238. Shocker
    239. Shriek
    240. Spidercide
    241. Spider-Girl
    242. Spiderman (Red & Blue)
    243. Black Tarantula
    244. Tri-sentinel
    245. Venom (Brock)
    246. Vermin
    247. Vulture
    248. The Answer
    249. Armada
    250. Basilist
    251. Crown
    252. Headsman
    253. Lightmaster
    254. Man-Wolf
    255. Morlun
    256. Scorcher
    257. Scream
    258. Shadrac
    259. Toxin
    260. Wraith

    Thor

    261. Absorbing Man
    262. Baldur
    263. Beta Ray Bill
    264. Bloodaxe
    265. Durok the Demolisher
    266. Enchantress
    267. Fandral
    268. Fenris
    269. Heimdall
    270. Hogun
    271. Kurse
    272. Sif
    273. Thor
    274. Thunderstrike
    275. Titania
    276. Ulik
    277. Valkyrie
    278. Vidar
    279. Ares
    280. Man-Beast
    281. Growing Man
    282. King Cobra
    283. Tana Nile
    284. Thaialfi
    285. Thor Girl
    286. Ultimus

    Thunderbolts

    287. Atlas
    288. Baron Zemo
    289. Blizzard
    290. Charcoal
    291. Fixer
    292. Gravitron
    293. Jolt
    294. Joystick
    295. Mach IV
    296. Moonstone
    297. Photon (Genis)
    298. Radioactive Man
    299. Songbird
    300. Speed Demon
    301. Tigershark
     
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    I'm having trouble finding bios for Armageddon (Hulk's) and Gladiator II (Marvel Knights).

    I vote off Viper and Scorpio

    Scorpio has apparently been several people. I intended him to be the one named Mikel, but he's basically just a young man with a gun also... so I say he goes.
     
  11. Phaedrus45 Registered

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    Part 3 is pretty big:

    X-Men

    302. Archangel
    303. Banshee
    304. Beast
    305. Bishop
    306. Cable (Telepath)
    307. Cannonball
    308. Chamber (Pre M-Day)
    309. Charles Xavier (Pre M-Day)
    310. Colossus
    311. Cyclops
    312. Dazzler
    313. Emma Frost
    314. Forge
    315. Gambit (X-Men)
    316. Havoc
    317. Husk (AoA)
    318. Iceman
    319. Jean Grey
    320. Joseph
    321. Juggernaut (Villain)
    322. Kitty Pryde
    323. Lifeguard
    324. Longshot
    325. Marrow
    326. Nightcrawler
    327. Northstar (Agent of Hydra)
    328. Polaris (X-Man)
    329. Psylocke (Crimson Dawn)
    330. Rachel Grey
    331. Rogue
    332. Stacey X (Pre M-Day)
    333. Storm
    334. Sunfire (Famine)
    335. Thunderbird III
    336. Wolverine
    337. X-23

    X-Other

    338. Abyss (AoA)
    339. Adam-X
    340. Caliban
    341. Callisto
    342. Captain Britain (Brian Braddock)
    343. Chód
    344. Danielle Moonstar
    345. Deadpool
    346. Domino
    347. Dust
    348. Fantomex
    349. Hellion (Julian)
    350. Jesse Bedlam
    351. Karima Shapandar
    352. Karma
    353. Kylun
    354. Magik (Illyana Rasputin)
    355. Magma
    356. Maverick
    357. Meggan
    358. Meltdown
    359. Mercury
    360. Monet St. Croix
    361. Mondo (AoA)
    362. Multiple Man
    363. Nate Grey (Pre-Shaman)
    364. Penance
    365. Pete Wisdom
    366. Prodigy (Pre M Day)
    367. Random
    368. Raza
    369. Richter (Pre M-Day)
    370. Rockslide
    371. Shard (Hologram)
    372. Shatterstar
    373. Shola Inkose(Pre M day)
    374. Siryn
    375. Skin
    376. Strong Guy
    377. Sunspot
    378. Surge
    379. Synch
    380. Wallflower(House of M)
    381. Warlock (M Tech)
    382. Warpath
    383. Whither(Pre M Day)
    384. Wind Dancer (Pre M Day)
    385. Wolfesbane
    386. Jubilee
    387. Slipstream
    388. Darwin
    389. Stepford Cuckoos
    390. Tag

    X-Villains

    391. Apocalypse
    392. Avalanche
    393. Balasco
    394. Black Tom Cassidy (Pre M-Day)
    395. Blob (Pre M-Day)
    396. Brainchild
    397. Cameron Hodge (X-Tinction Agenda)
    398. Cassandra Nova
    399. Count Neferia
    400. Cyber
    401. Dark Beast
    402. Donald Pierce
    403. Emplate
    404. Exodus
    405. Fabian Cortez
    406. Famine
    407. Gamesmaster
    408. Garrok
    409. Gauntlet
    410. Genesis
    411. Gideon
    412. Goblin Queen
    413. Holocaust
    414. Kane (Weapon X)
    415. Kid Omega (Riot at Xavier's)
    416. Lady Deathstrike
    417. Legion (Pre AoA)
    418. Magneto (Pre M-Day)
    419. Mastermind
    420. Mesmero (Pre M-Day)
    421. Mr. Sinister
    422. Moses Magnum
    423. Mystique
    424. New Son
    425. Nimrod
    426. Omega Red
    427. Ozymandias
    428. Pestilence
    429. Pyro
    430. Reaper (Pre M-Day)
    431. Riptide
    432. Sabastian Shaw
    433. Sabretooth
    434. Sauron
    435. Scalphunter
    436. Selene
    437. Senyaka
    438. Shinobi Shaw
    439. Silver Samarai
    440. Spiral
    441. Sonia Blaze
    442. Stryfe
    443. Sugar Man
    444. Trevor Fitzroy
    445. Uniscone
    446. Unus the Untouchable
    447. Vargas
    448. Vertigo
    449. War
    450. Wildside
    451. Washout (Weapon X)
    452. X-Cutioner
    453. Zaladane
    454. Ahab
    455. Deathbird
    456. Gazer (War)
    457. Gorgon
    458. Kid Vulcan
    459. Nuke
    460. Shadow King
    461. Toad
    462. Tusk

    X-Men 2099

    463. Xi'an Chi Xan
    464. Shakti Haddad
    465. Metalhead
    466. Bloodhawk
    467. Skullfire
    468. Junkpile
    469. Halloween Jack
    470. La Lunatica
    471. Breakdown
    472. Brimstone Love


    Others

    473. Brother Voodoo
    474. Constrictor
    475. Deathloc
    476. Death's Head II
    477. Dusk
    478. Hornet
    479. Moon Knight
    480. Night Watch
    481. Prodigy (Slingers)
    482. Prowler
    483. Sleepwalker
    484. Bloodstorm
    485. Fallen
    486. Dead Girl
    487. Freedom Ring
    488. Gaia
    489. Gravity
    490. J2
    491. Hisako Ichiki
    492. Quake
    493. Ch'vayre
    494. Paibok the Power Skrull
    495. Daredevil (Earth X)
     
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    Ok, I remembered a few mentioned before, and added some I was thinking about previously.

    Joseph and Nate Grey: To me, we have the originals in Magneto and Cable. And, there was debate last season on how powerful these two people really are. Some thought they weren't limited, as their counterparts are. Plus, with Cable, we also have Stryfe.

    Kid Omega: The version we have really wasn't in too many comics. I think there could be confusion on how powerful he is.

    Stepford Cuckoos: Sure, they got defeated last year, but these are three gals, when everyone else is pretty much on their own. If no Red Ghost and apes, no cuckoos, I think.

    Legion: Reality warping powers, anything can go with him. I think way too uber.
     
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    387. Slipstream No offensive strategy
    388. Darwin Too New
    460. Shadow King Tuber
    488. Gaia Too easily abused
    495. Daredevil (Earth X) Lack of Info


    And I'm debating Cassandra Nova.
     
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    Hmm, I think I'd rather keep Joseph, as he became a souly unique character in his time. Nate Grey I could see dropping though. His power levels are extremely high (he was compared to as a light version of phoenix). I'll second Nate's removal.

    Hmm, I'll have to think on this one.

    I think you've made a good point. I say instead of having them as the 'Stepford Cuckoos' we should draw them out to several single characters. I'm thinking just the noted ones who've actually starred alone, such as Esme, Mindee, and Sophie.

    I'm not against Letion, but I say we need to lable him as Scitzophrenic (or whatever it is where he still has the multiple personalities). He couldn't alter reality back then.
     
  15. wiegeabo Omniposcient

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    I'll agree with dropping Nate and Kid Omega.

    I didn't really like Stepford Cuckoos before. Splitting them up is an idea, but then we'd have 3 very very similar characters. (Pretty much identical with some personality differences).

    Reality Warping should be out. (That includes Excalibur.) A lesser powered Legion may be ok (depends how the multiple personalties are used, I guess.)
     
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    I easily second Shadow King and agree with Cassandra Nova, if you put a vote her way. I don't know much about the other two, but are willing to agree if Darwin has no information about him and Gaia and slipstream are too wimpy.
     
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    Yeah okay, Cassandra's gone. Gaia isn't too wimpy, but rather potentially tuber. She's a reality warper, but after the breaking of the astral plane, she lost some of that power, but it was never really defined what level she ended up at. I think it's just easier to drop her.
     
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    How many characters do we need to have to start the tournament again?
     
  19. wiegeabo Omniposcient

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    512 for it to workout evenly.
     
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    512 is what we will have.
     
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    Depends on which version of Alex Power we're talking about. I automatically assumed we'd be talking about Alex while he was with the New Warriors, thus meaning he has the powers of the entire Power Pack. He can last quite a few rounds then.
     
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    I'd keep Alex Power. I'd prefer the version with all the PP powers though. It'll definitely give him a better chance in the tourney.
     
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    How long did Alex Powers have all the powers of Power Pack? Was it only for a short time at the end of the New Warriors run? Is this the current version? If I remember right, he did it for a real short time, and peeved off his siblings for taking their powers; especially considering they are currently all using their respective powers in those lousy miniseries. For me, I'll sign off on it, but I hate taking a moment in time that is so short lived that most people don't even refer to a character being a certain way in regards to their powers. (Kind of how I think we'll be thinking of The Other Spider-Man some time in the future.)
     
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    He held his siblings' powers for the last 20 issues of the New Warriors or so. I'd really hate to go with 'Marvel Ages Power Pack'.
     
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    Like I said, I'd go with it. I just thought the end run of New Warriors destroyed the book, and that was one part I didn't like.
     

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