Contest Of Marvels II Discussion Thread

[JewishHobbit]

You might be thinking of Holocaust. He was featured in the Exiles and is the son of Apocy. I wish I read this before I posted.

No, This is Armageddon. There's a better bio out there on an Exiles webpage, I just can't find it suddenly. I can look for it later.

 

[wiegeabo]

I saw that one. Doesn't really say much. She can create her scythe and is a good fighter. But no word on endurance, speed, strength, what the scythe can do. Too up-in-the-air.

And I have the same problem with Nathaniel Richards. Too much guess work and assumptions about him based on what he should be able to do.

I'm wondering if Darwin has too much potential. It sounds like he can't be defeated because his body can adapt to anything. There is a time delay, so maybe a quick attack would be successful. But can he layer these abilities (not from fight to fight, but during a fight if exposed to multiple types of attacks)? Or does he lose the last ability when he gains a new one?

I also like the idea of Tag, but reading the bio more carefully, it says he can tag other people so anyone around them runs away or flocks them. But it doesn't say he can tag himself, which would really be the only 'attack' he has.

 

[JewishHobbit]

It seems to be about what we knew last year. It doesn't really delve into her powers much or what her weapon can do. I vote to evict for the CoM household.

Huntara does not have the power of veto, and so she shall be evicted from the COM household.

 

[wiegeabo]

Out:
Tundra
Killraven
Dr. Strange

Highly possible Outs:
Silver Surfer
Nemesis
Captain Universe Commander Rann
Era

Find information, or probably out:
Vibraxas
Huntara
Invincible Woman
Inhuman Torch
Nathaniel Richards

To be debated a bit more:
Scramble
Red Ghost
Mad Thinker
Puppet Master
Trapster
Blastaar
Armagedon
Kate Bishop
Baron Mordo (we're kicking Strange out, so....)
Ikaris
Gilgamesh
Thena

My votes so far: Keep Silver Surfer. Get rid of Vibraxas, Huntara, Invincible Woman, Inhuman Torch, Nathaniel Richards, Scramble, Puppet Master, Shadow King.

 

[Phaedrus45]

My votes to evict:

Silver Surfer
Era
Nemesis
Captain Universe Commander Rann
Vibraxas
Huntara
Nathaniel Richards
Invincible Woman
Inhuman Torch
Kate Bishop
...
And, the three Eternals

 

[Phaedrus45]

Shall we say three votes against a player is cause for elimination?

 

[JewishHobbit]

And I have the same problem with Nathaniel Richards. Too much guess work and assumptions about him based on what he should be able to do.

I agree

I'm wondering if Darwin has too much potential. It sounds like he can't be defeated because his body can adapt to anything. There is a time delay, so maybe a quick attack would be successful. But can he layer these abilities (not from fight to fight, but during a fight if exposed to multiple types of attacks)? Or does he lose the last ability when he gains a new one?

I'm thinking the same. He could be awsome, but right now we just don't know enough

I also like the idea of Tag, but reading the bio more carefully, it says he can tag other people so anyone around them runs away or flocks them. But it doesn't say he can tag himself, which would really be the only 'attack' he has.

The bio was just mistaken. I just looked through my trades and I quickly saw that he tagged himself during the Hellions mini. I'm actually thinking that he can tag things as well, but I could be wrong on that.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Shall we say three votes against a player is cause for elimination?

That sounds good. Let me get an official vote list up.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Drop
Nemesis (Alpha Flight)
Scramble
Tundra
Thena
Killraven
Ikaris
Gilgamesh
Kate Bishop
Silver Surfer
Dr. Strange
Era
Captain Universe (Rann)
Blastaar
Nathaniel Richards
Puppet Master
Invincible Woman
Inhuman Torch

Note: I'm putting the House of M characters simply because I think there are already enough characters like them out there. However, I think that alternate universes should still be allowed if enough info can be found on the character.

Debating:
Baron Mordo
Clea
Baron Karza
Adam Warlock

Note: I'm not too familiar with magics to know how powerful they are, but if they are at Strange level, I'm very hesitant on them.

 

[wiegeabo]

Questions about X-Men 2099:

Does Shakti Haddad's telepath only work on mutants? (Implied in Wiki bio)

Does Metalhead retain the ability to mimic any metal he's ever touched? Basically, if he touches a metal he can mimic it forever, or is it temporary, requiring him to touch the metal again?

Does La Lunatica feed on particular emotions, or will any do? And I assume the stronger the emotion, the more it powers her?

 

[wiegeabo]

The powers of Freedom Ring and Gaia seem a little up in the air. Well, more so Freedom Ring, which puts him on my 'if' list. The analogy to a Green Lantern keeps me from outright saying drop him.

Gaia's powers seem more reasonable, but it's the level of transmutation she can manage I'm wondering about. Although it's probably similar to most other transmuters.

I'd also like to see good bios on Daredevil(Earth X) and Ch'vayre. The ones I found didn't have much.

 

[Midnight Ice]

Hey guys. How far along are we on this season two? I know I haven't been around this thread, but just wondering.

 

[Trigger]

We're still debating the roster.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Hey Ice. We're almost finished with getting the character list together. We've had a few slow points, but we're almost finished now.

Also in regards to an earlier question... Tag can 'tag' himself, and I just check and yes, he can also tag things. He tagged a briefcase in the Hellions mini as well.

The powers of Freedom Ring and Gaia seem a little up in the air. Well, more so Freedom Ring, which puts him on my 'if' list. The analogy to a Green Lantern keeps me from outright saying drop him.

Gaia's powers seem more reasonable, but it's the level of transmutation she can manage I'm wondering about. Although it's probably similar to most other transmuters.

I don't know much about Freedom Ring yet, so I'll have to look into him. Gaia's original powerlevel was way too powerful, but after Psylocke and Shadow King's battle destroied a lot of telepathy, her power was limited. It's now just basic transmutation, but it's still not clearly defined. If she were to be booted, I wouldn't mind it.

I'd also like to see good bios on Daredevil(Earth X) and Ch'vayre. The ones I found didn't have much.

http://www.mutanthigh.com/chvayre.html]Ch'vayre

I'm having trouble finding Daredevil also, so we may have to drop him.

 

[Phaedrus45]

OK, Part 1 of the list is complete. Here is where it stands:

Alpha Flight
1. Aurora (Weapon X)
2. Diamond Lil
3. Guardian (Mac Hudson)
4. Madison Jeffries (Weapon X)
5. Murmur
6. Northstar (X-Men)
7. Puck
8. Sasquatch
9. Shaman
10. Snowbird
11. Wildchild (Weapon X)
12. Talisman
13. Windshear
14. Ranark the Ravager
15. The Master

Avengers
16. Attuma
17. Bulldozer
18. Black Knight (Dane Whitman)
19. Black Panther
20. Bloodwraith
21. Captain America
22. Captain Britain (Kelsey Leigh)
23. Carol Danvers
24. Crystal
25. Diablo
26. Firebird
27. Grim Reaper
28. Hank Pym
29. Hawkeye
30. Hercules
31. Iron Fist
32. Iron Man
33. Jack of Hearts
34. Kang
35. Klaw
36. Living Lightning
37. Lord Templar
38. Luke Cage
39. Mandarin
40. Mantis
41. Modok
42. Pagan
43. Piledriver
44. The Presence
45. Proctor
46. Protocide
47. Pulsar
48. Quicksilver
49. Red Skull
50. Scarlet Witch
51. Scott Lang
52. Sersi
53. She-Hulk
54. Silver Claw
55. Spider Woman (Jessica Drew)
56. Starfox
57. Taskmaster
58. Thunderball
59. Tigra
60. Triatholon
61. Ultron
62. Vision
63. War Machine
64. Wasp
65. Whirlwind
66. Wonderman
67. Wrecker
68. X-51
69. Falcon & Redwing
70. Speed
71. Ronin
72. Jocasta
73. Quasar
72. The Ghost

Young Avengers:
73. Hulkling
74. Wiccan
75. Patriot
76. Stature
77. Iron Lad

Cosmic
78. Drax (Smart)
79. Firelord
80. Gamora
81. Gladiator
82. Maxam
83. Moondragon
84. Terrax
85. Airwalker
86. Clea
87. Adam Warlock
88. Baron Mordo
89. Baron Karza
90. Morg

exiles
91. Blink (Exiles)
92. Magnus (Exiles)
93. Mimic (Exiles)
94. Morph (Exiles)
95. Namora (Exiles)
96. Nocturne (Exiles)
97. Spider (Exiles)
98. Sunfire (Exiles)
99. Thunderbird (Exiles)
100. Power Princess (Exiles)
101. Spider-Man 2099
102. Armagedon (Exiles)

Fantastic Four
103. Agatha Harkness
104. Annihilus
105. Devos the Devestator
106. Doctor Doom
107. Dragon Man
108. Frankie Raye
109. Mr. Fantastic
110. Gorgon
111. Grey Gargoyle
112. Hatemonger
113. Human Torch
114. Invisible Woman
115. Karnak
116. Lyja Lazerfist
117. Maximus the Mad
118. Medusa
119. Psycho Man
120. Ronan the Accuser
121. Super Skrull
122. Thing
123. Trapster
124. Wizard
125. Mad Thinker
126. Red Ghost
127. Ring Leader
128. (To Be Filled In Later)

 

[Phaedrus45]

Incredible Hulk

129. Abomination
130. Doctor Sampson
131. Savage Hulk
132. Iron Clad (U-Foes)
133. Leader
134. Maestro
135. Mr. Hyde
136. Speed Freak
137. Super Adaptoid
138. Vaper (U-Foes)
139. Vector (U-Foes)
140. Wendigo
141. X-Ray (U-Foes)
142. Zzzax
143. Armageddon
144. Bi-Beast
145. Boomerang
146. Half Life
147. Madman
148. Mercy
149. Ravage

Marvel Knights

150. Black Widow
151. Bullseye
152. Daredevil
153. Elektra
154. Kingpin
155. Nick Fury
156. Owl
157. Punisher
158. Shang-Chi
159. Typhoid Mary
160. Zaran the Weapons Master
161. Man-Thing
162. Gladiator II
163. Purple Man
164. Fu Manchu
165. Viper
166. Yellow Claw
167. Scorpio

Midnight Sons

168. Blackout
169. Blade the Vampire Hunter
170. Damien Hellstrom
171. Deathwatch
172. Delilah
173. Ghost Rider (Johnny Blaze)
174. Hannibal King
175. Jaine Cutter
176. Morbius
177. Patriarch
178. Metarchus
179. Foundry
180. Regent

New Invaders

181. Blazing Skull
182. Namor the Sub-Mariner
183. Spitfire
184. US Agent
185. Union Jack
186. Thin Man
187. Namor (Ultimate)

New Warriors

188. Bolt
189. Firestar
190. Justice
191. Namorita
192. Night Thrasher
193. Nova
194. Rage
195. Silhouette
196. Speedball
197. Sphinx
198. Helix
199. Hybrid
200. Alex Powers
201. Microbe
202. Debrii
203. Slapstick
204. Nitro

Runaways

205. Karolina Dean
206. Molly Hayes
207. Nico Minoru
208. Victor Mancha
209. Darkhawk
210. Ricochet
211. Cloak
212. Dagger
213. Topher
214. Swarm

Spider-Man

215. Black Cat
216. Calypso
217. Cardiac
218. Carnage
219. Carrion
220. Demogoblin
221. Doctor Octopus
222. Doppleganger
223. Electro
224. Ezekial
225. Fusion
226. Green Goblin (Norman)
227. Hobgoblin (Kingsley)
228. Hydroman
229. Jack O-Lantern
230. Kaine
231. Kraven the Hunter
232. Lady Doc Ock
233. Lizard
234. Mysterio
235. Puma
236. Rhino
237. Sandman
238. Scarlet Spider
239. Scorpion
240. Shathra
241. Shocker
242. Shriek
243. Spidercide
244. Spider-Girl
245. Spiderman (Red & Blue)
246. Tarantula
247. Tri-sentinel
248. Venom (Brock)
249. Vermin
250. Vulture
251. The Answer
252. Armada
253. Basilist
254. Crown
255. Headsman
256. Lightmaster
257. Man-Wolf
258. Morlun
259. Scorcher
260. Scream
261. Shadrac
262. Toxin
263. Wraith

Thor

264. Absorbing Man
265. Baldur
266. Beta Ray Bill
267. Bloodaxe
268. Durok the Demolisher
269. Enchantress
270. Fandral
271. Fenris
272. Heimdall
273. Hogun
274. Kurse
275. Sif
276. Thor
277. Thunderstrike
278. Titania
279. Ulik
280. Valkyrie
281. Vidar
282. Ares
283. Man-Beast
284. Growing Man
285. King Cobra
286. Tana Nile
287. Thaialfi
288. Thor Girl
289. Ultimus

Thunderbolts

290. Atlas
291. Baron Zemo
292. Blizzard
293. Charcoal
294. Fixer
295. Gravitron
296. Jolt
297. Joystick
298. Mach IV
299. Moonstone
300. Photon (Genis)
301. Radioactive Man
302. Songbird
303. Speed Demon
304. Tigershark

 

[Phaedrus45]

Ok, list #2 is above. I could only remember three characters that had been mentioned before as for possible elimination; so, they are in bold. As more get mentioned, I'll edit the list and put new considerations in bold, also. Personally, I think someone can do something with Fu Manchu. Heck, the guy has learned a ton of mystic arts and such through the years.

So, the list takes up right up to the X-Men. Then, after the final list is submitted, we'll need to do a recruitment drive.

 

[wiegeabo]

Huntara should be marked bold in the list, or removed. There really isn't anything out there on her. And if Vibraxas is gone, she should be too.

 

[Phaedrus45]

Huntara should be marked bold in the list, or removed. There really isn't anything out there on her. And if Vibraxas is gone, she should be too.

Thanks, that was just a glitch on my part. She wasn't suppose to make the cut.

 

[wiegeabo]

That's what I figured. There was only 300+ names hiding hers.

 

[Johnny Blaze]

Just out of curiosity, what is the main reason you all have for getting rid of the Eternals?

 

[Phaedrus45]

Just out of curiosity, what is the main reason you all have for getting rid of the Eternals?

The main reason is that they might be too powerful. But, like I said, if you're going to take part again this year, I would seriously consider putting them back in, as I know you'd really like to see them around.

 

[Johnny Blaze]

Nah, I'm out for this one, but I will still take on the champ if they're up for it.

Anyway, if you're taking them out for being too powerful, you might as well take out Sersi too. She's just as powerful as an Eternal as the others.
Hell, she's even a better transmuter than the Surfer, not to mention all the standard Eternal powers she possesses on top of that.

 

[wiegeabo]

Who were the other final four from last time? All I can remember is Thanos and Strange.

 

[Harlekin]

Desak and Loki.