Contest Of Marvels II Discussion Thread

[Phaedrus45]

Nah that was Flatman last year...."From the hood and misunderstood..."

BTW you're eligible for the 75x75 avatar.

Yeah, I was just looking at my puny thing...err, I mean small avatar

 

[JewishHobbit]

What exactly IS your avatar anyway?

 

[JewishHobbit]

You know, the more I read these Alpha Flight Bios... the more that title really sounds good! I may have to look for some trades or back issues or something.

 

[POWdER-man]

What exactly IS your avatar anyway?

That would be Prince's video for Batman '89.

 

[POWdER-man]

I like nemesis too, she looks like a female Deadpool...

http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Nemesis

 

[POWdER-man]

BTW once we get the characters figured out I think we should move to recruitment of new blood......fresh blood...

Anyways, how many people have signed up Phaed?

 

[Phaedrus45]

I've had 3 people that weren't around for the end of last season show interest. But, yeah, recruitment is on my mind, too.

I really liked Nemisis, too. Her look was always awesome.

 

[JewishHobbit]

How about this... let's figure out what to do with who we had last season and make a list of potentials to add later. Then from there we can move on. Alpha Flight aren't difficult so we can probably finish them up fairly quickly.

My vote:

Keep
Aurora (Weapon X)
Diamond Lil
Guardian (Mac Hudson)
Madison Jeffries (Weapon X)
Murmur
Northstar (X-Men)
Puck
Sasquatch
Shaman
Snowbird
Vindicator (Heather Hudson)
Wildchild (Weapon X)

Drop:
Flex
Radius

Potentials
Marina
Nemesis (Alpha Flight) (as opposed to Holocaust)
Talisman
Scramble
Windshear

 

[POWdER-man]

How about this... let's figure out what to do with who we had last season and make a list of potentials to add later. Then from there we can move on. Alpha Flight aren't difficult so we can probably finish them up fairly quickly.

My vote:

Keep
Aurora (Weapon X)
Diamond Lil
Guardian (Mac Hudson)
Madison Jeffries (Weapon X)
Murmur
Northstar (X-Men)
Puck
Sasquatch
Shaman
Snowbird
Vindicator (Heather Hudson)
Wildchild (Weapon X)

Drop:
Flex
Radius

Potentials
Marina
Nemesis (Alpha Flight) (as opposed to Holocaust)
Talisman
Scramble
Windshear

That's pretty well what I had above except I didn't make it a certainty that we were dropping those two...

EDIt the next group is the Avengers...a nice BIG list. Do we want to wait until tomorrow to discuss, or are we pretty well done with Alpha Flight?

 

[Phaedrus45]

My vote:

Keep
Aurora (Weapon X)
Diamond Lil
Guardian (Mac Hudson)
Madison Jeffries (Weapon X)
Murmur
Northstar (X-Men)
Puck
Sasquatch
Shaman
Snowbird
Wildchild (Weapon X)

Drop:
Flex
Radius
Vindicator (Heather Hudson)

Potentials
Nemesis (Alpha Flight) (as opposed to Holocaust)
Talisman
Scramble
Windshear
Tundra
Ranark the Ravager
The Master
Dreamqueen

With reservations made by JH, I'll agree to take her off considerations. For me, I've never been thrilled with Heather Hudson version of Vindicator. To me, it's so similiar to Guardian, since she just took on that persona of her dead husband. But, of course, I'm willing to concede if you guys like her.

 

[Phaedrus45]

Man, reading all the files, there are so many versions of Guardian, like Dark Guardian and Antiguard. Anyway, I won't be able to post much longer. As we come to an agreement with Alpha Flight, we don't have to wait for tomorrow for Avengers if you'd like to get it posted. With the three of us discussing it, I'm willilng to go with majority rules. (That way, if you both want Heather Hudson back in, let's just say a 2 out of 3 wins it kind of thing.)

Also, anyone else who wants to get in the discussion, feel free. It's just that right now it's just three of us are discussing this, and it seemed easy to say "majority rules."

 

[Phaedrus45]

One final point for me regarding Alpha Flight: Just thinking about Puck, I remember people not being too excited about getting him as a character when it was being divided up. I know he's got potential, but wondering if he's really a guy each of you would want to be stuck with? Are there going to be more preferable characters that we could include if we excluded him?

 

[wiegeabo]

Well, I don't know much about Alpha Flight, and haven't had time to read the files, so I haven't been discussing it.

I will say the Heather Hudson Vindicator, and the cybernetic Mac are probably better left out.

 

[POWdER-man]

My vote:

Keep
Aurora (Weapon X)
Diamond Lil
Guardian (Mac Hudson)
Madison Jeffries (Weapon X)
Murmur
Northstar (X-Men)
Puck
Sasquatch
Shaman
Snowbird
Wildchild (Weapon X)

Drop:
Flex
Radius
Vindicator (Heather Hudson)

Potentials
Nemesis (Alpha Flight) (as opposed to Holocaust)
Talisman
Scramble
Windshear
Tundra
Ranark the Ravager (He would be good a choice)
The Master (pretty versatile character..)

I agree with Phaed about Kate Hudson since it's pretty well the same character as her husband. As for Guardian, I think just the standard form would be the one to use.

 

[Phaedrus45]

I agree with Phaed about Kate Hudson since it's pretty well the same character as her husband.

Well, we know where Powder's head is at.

 

[POWdER-man]

As for Puck, I think he would be a good enough character to have. He took out Wolverine, and he apparantly has comparable speed and agility to Spider-Man. So if I got him as my tenth choice I would be happy...

So looks like the following characters are confirmed:

Keep
Aurora (Weapon X)
Diamond Lil
Guardian (Mac Hudson) 2-2 tie currently so decision by JH or Phaed
Madison Jeffries (Weapon X)
Murmur
Northstar (X-Men)
Puck
Sasquatch
Shaman
Snowbird
Wildchild (Weapon X)

Drop:
Flex
Radius
Vindicator (Heather Hudson)

Potentials
Nemesis (Alpha Flight) (as opposed to Holocaust)
Talisman
Scramble
Windshear
Tundra
Ranark the Ravager
The Master

 

[POWdER-man]

Well, we know where Powder's head is at.

LMAO...

Jeez that made me laugh.... Can I say oops...

 

[Phaedrus45]

As for Puck, I think he would be a good enough character to have. He took out Wolverine, and he apparantly has comparable speed and agility to Spider-Man. So if I got him as my tenth choice I would be happy...

So looks like the following characters are confirmed:

Keep
Aurora (Weapon X)
Diamond Lil
Guardian (Mac Hudson) 2-2 tie currently so decision by JH or Phaed
Madison Jeffries (Weapon X)
Murmur
Northstar (X-Men)
Puck
Sasquatch
Shaman
Snowbird
Wildchild (Weapon X)

Drop:
Flex
Radius
Vindicator (Heather Hudson)

Potentials
Nemesis (Alpha Flight) (as opposed to Holocaust)
Talisman
Scramble
Windshear
Tundra
Ranark the Ravager
The Master

Ok, let's make that official. BTW, did The Master make a different list last season? I can't remember.

 

[POWdER-man]

So here is the Avengers list...

Avengers

Asguardian,
Attuma,
Bulldozer,
Black Knight (Dane Whitman),
Black Panther,
Bloodwraith,
Captain America,
Captain Britain (Kelsey Leigh),
Carol Danvers,
Cassie Lang,
Crystal,
Diablo,
Firebird,
Falcon,
Gilgamesh,
Grim Reaper,
Hank Pym,
Hawkeye,
Hawkingbird,
Hercules,
Hulkling,
Ikaris (Eternal),
Iron Fist, Ironlad,
Iron Man,
Jack of Hearts,
Jessica Jones,
Kang,
Klaw,
Kulan Gath,
Living Lightning,
Lord Templar,
Luke Cage,
Mandarin,
Mantis,
Mockingbird,
Modok,
Pagan,
Patriot,
Piledriver,
The Presence,
Proctor,
Protocide,
Pulsar,
Quasar,
Quicksilver,
Red Skull,
Scarlet Witch,
Scott Lang,
Scourge I,
Sersi,
She-Hulk,
Silver Claw,
Spider Woman (Jessica Drew),
Spider-Woman (Julia Carpenter),
Starfox,
Supreme Intelligence,
Swordsman I,
Taskmaster,
Thena,
Thunderball,
Tigra,
Triatholon,
Ultron,
Vision,
War Machine,
Wasp,
Whirlwind,
Wonderman,
Wrecker,
X-51

Automatically taken out:

High Evolutionary

 

[POWdER-man]

Ok, let's make that official. BTW, did The Master make a different list last season? I can't remember.

No he wasn't on any other list unless he was one of the last ones we added to fill the void.

 

[Phaedrus45]

Ok, here are sites about Avengers Rosters and some villians:

http://www.avengersassemble.us/mcquaid/mcquaid.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Avengers_members

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Avengers

http://www.geocities.com/marvel_villains/avengers.html

 

[Phaedrus45]

Breaking it down a little bit:

Avengers

Attuma,
Bulldozer,
Black Knight (Dane Whitman),
Black Panther,
Bloodwraith,
Captain America,
Captain Britain (Kelsey Leigh),
Carol Danvers,
Crystal,
Diablo,
Firebird,
Falcon,
Gilgamesh,
Grim Reaper,
Hank Pym,
Hawkeye,
Hercules,
Ikaris (Eternal),
Iron Fist,
Iron Man,
Jack of Hearts,
Jessica Jones,
Kang,
Klaw,
Kulan Gath,
Living Lightning,
Lord Templar,
Luke Cage,
Mandarin,
Mantis,
Mockingbird,
Modok,
Pagan,
Piledriver,
The Presence,
Proctor,
Protocide,
Pulsar,
Quasar,
Quicksilver,
Red Skull,
Scarlet Witch,
Scott Lang,
Scourge I,
Sersi,
She-Hulk,
Silver Claw,
Spider Woman (Jessica Drew),
Spider-Woman (Julia Carpenter),
Starfox,
Supreme Intelligence,
Swordsman I,
Taskmaster,
Thena,
Thunderball,
Tigra,
Triatholon,
Ultron,
Vision,
War Machine,
Wasp,
Whirlwind,
Wonderman,
Wrecker,
X-51

Young Avengers:

Hulkling
Wiccan (Formerly Asgardian)
Patriot
Vision
Stature (Formerly Cassie Lang)
Iron Lad
Kate Bishop (Formerly Hawkingbird)

(NOT ON previous list - Thomas Shepard)



Automatically taken out:

High Evolutionary

 

[Phaedrus45]

So, which version of Vision do we want to include? The New Vision to keep up with the times, or old vision before Disassembled??

 

[Phaedrus45]

Two characters that were so old school that nobody really has read about were Ikaris and Gilgamesh. I vote to remove them from the list. They are cool and powerful, but really don't do much of anything with the Marvel Universe lately.

Nobody really wanted to be stuck with Mockingbird. And, I vote we only have one Spider-Woman, and that's Jessica Drew. Let's dump Julia Carpenter, even though I like her character more than Jessica. Finally, Supreme Intelligence is just one of those characters that is more reliant on stooges. I say dump him, too.

 

[Phaedrus45]

Keep definitely

Attuma,
Black Knight (Dane Whitman),
Black Panther,
Captain America,
Captain Britain (Kelsey Leigh),
Carol Danvers (Current version as Ms. Marvel),
Crystal,
Diablo,
Falcon,
Grim Reaper,
Hank Pym (Yellowjacket version),
Hawkeye,
Hercules,
Iron Fist,
Iron Man,
Jack of Hearts,
Kang,
Klaw,
Kulan Gath,
Living Lightning,
Lord Templar,
Luke Cage,
Mandarin,
Mantis,
Pagan,
Proctor,
Pulsar (Monica Rambeau, right?),
Quasar,
Quicksilver,
Red Skull,
Scott Lang (Ant-Man),
Sersi,
She-Hulk,
Silver Claw,
Spider Woman (Jessica Drew),
Starfox,
Swordsman I,
Taskmaster,
Thena,
Tigra,
Ultron,
Vision,
War Machine,
Wasp,
Wonderman,
Wrecker,
X-51

Young Avengers:

Hulkling
Wiccan (Formerly Asgardian)
Patriot
Vision
Stature (Formerly Cassie Lang)
Iron Lad
Kate Bishop (Formerly Hawkingbird)

(NOT ON previous list - Thomas Shepard)



To Be Removed:

High Evolutionary
Mockingbird
Supreme Intelligence
Gilgamesh
Ikaris
Spider-Woman (Julia)
Jessica Jones
Scourge I

The rest I left off are open to debate for me. (Well, they all are, but that's how I generally feel about the previous list.)