Contest Of Marvels II Discussion Thread

[Phaedrus45]

Do we really want Debrii and Microbe on the potential list? There's a thousand better tk characters than Debrii, and while Microbe is kinda unique, he's not exactly very effective. He talks to germs, and they don't always listen to what he says. And other than that he's just a big target to hit.

Ahhh, but all you've seen is what a humor comic did with these characters. In the right hand of a good debator, they could be magic.



Do you want to mess with Debrii after seeing that picture? And, to be able to control germs and make your opponent violently ill...that would be power. Even armored opponents have eye holes.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Yeah, I can see Microbe... but still not Debrii.

 

[Phaedrus45]

Here is some information I found out about her powers:

"Debrii is capable of moving objects that are around her telekinetically. However, she is limited in her powers, so that it is only small objects, in which she is able to manipulate.

However, the limit to which “how much” small stuff she is capable of manipulating remains unknown. For example, she used perhaps tons of small pieces of metal to form a giant, robotic Terrax and displayed incredible control over its robotic limbs."

I'd take her over Night Thrasher.

 

[Phaedrus45]

Yeah, I can see Microbe... but still not Debrii.

Judging from your avatar, I'm guessing you'll be watching the 2 hour American Idol tonight.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Absolutely!!!

And okay,.. I can see Debrii.

 

[POWdER-man]

Watched it all already...

 

[POWdER-man]

New Warriors

keep

154.Bolt
155.Firestar
156.Justice
157.Namorita
158.Night Thrasher
159.Nova
160.Rage
161.Silhouette
162.Speedball
163.Sphinx

Drop

40.Bandit

Potentials

58.Helix
59.Hybrid
60.Alex Powers
61.Microbe
62.Debrii

 

[POWdER-man]

Runaways
Alex Wilder
Gertrude Yorkes
Karolina Dean
Chase Stein
Molly Hayes
Nico Minoru
Victor Mancha
Julie Powers
Darkhawk
Green Goblin (Phil Urich)
Turbo
Ricochet
Cloak
Dagger

 

[POWdER-man]

Runaways
Karolina Dean
Molly Hayes
Nico Minoru (I think I will drop her just for JH....)
Victor Mancha
Darkhawk
Ricochet
Cloak
Dagger

Drop
Green Goblin (Phil Urich) (enough GG's)
Gertrude Yorkes
Chase Stein (with or without gloves not much of a character)
Alex Wilder (maybe someone can convince me otherwise)
Turbo (meh)
Julie Powers

 

[Phaedrus45]

WikipediaRunaways

 

[POWdER-man]

So what's everybody's take on Lost last night....It's nice Claire and Charlie got back together but I wished it wasn't on the last 10 minutes of the show...I was almost screaming at the screen to get off because there was still so much to cover before the season ended...oh well...

 

[Phaedrus45]

Runaways

Keep:

Gertrude Yorkes & Old Lace
Karolina Dean
Molly Hayes
Nico Minoru
Victor Mancha
Darkhawk
Turbo
Ricochet
Cloak
Dagger

Drop:

Alex Wilder - not really any powers, besides being smart.
Chase Stein - He just pilots the ship now. Pretty useless.
Phil Urich (Green Goblin) - Definitely too many Green Goblins last time, and he's the most inexperienced of the group. Gotta go.
Julie Power - At least move her to Potential. The Power kids do nothing for me.

Potential:

Topher
Swarm

 

[Phaedrus45]

So what's everybody's take on Lost last night....It's nice Claire and Charlie got back together but I wished it wasn't on the last 10 minutes of the show...I was almost screaming at the screen to get off because there was still so much to cover before the season ended...oh well...

I loved that we finally got some explanations, such as why the plane crashed in the first place. I don't want to say too much, as maybe someone taped it and hasn't watched it yet. But, the two hours went by quickly, and I hate having to wait so long for Season 3.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Man, I'm still numb over it. I know it's a good show when my heart was racing and I was shakey as I watched it. I'd discuss it, but I'll wait too in case someone's not watched it yet.

Nico Minoru (I think I will drop her just for JH....)

I've given noogies for less


Keep
Karolina Dean
Molly Hayes
Nico Minoru
Victor Mancha
Julie Powers
Darkhawk
Ricochet
Cloak
Dagger
Turbo

Drop
Green Goblin (Phil Urich)
Gertrude Yorkes I was hesitant about this one, but yeah, she wouldn't make it far
Chase Stein
Alex Wilder He'd be good when he had everyone's weapons, but otherwise no

Potential
Topher I'm okay with him, but there's so many vampires in the marvel universe that I'm not sure if we really need him.
Swarm I think he's in the tourney already, maybe under the Spidey section

 

[POWdER-man]

Runaways

Keep

164.Karolina Dean
165.Molly Hayes
166.Nico Minoru
167.Victor Mancha
168.Darkhawk
169.Ricochet
170.Cloak
171.Dagger

Drop

41.Green Goblin
42.Gertrude Yorkes
43.Chase Stein
44.Alex Wilder
45.Julie Powers

Potential

63.Topher
64.Swarm

 

[POWdER-man]

Swarm wasn't under Spider-man, and speaking of Peter....

Spider-Man

Black Cat
Calypso
Cardiac
Carnage
Carrion
Chameleon
Demogoblin
Doctor Octopus
Doppleganger
Electro
Ezekial
Fusion
Green Goblin (Harry)
Green Goblin (Norman)
Hammerhead
Hobgoblin (Kingsley)
Hobgoblin (Jason)
Hydroman
Jackle
Jack O-Lantern
Judas Traveler
Kaine
Kraven the Hunter
Lady Doc Ock
Lizard
Midnight
Molten Man
Mysterio
Puma
Rhino
The Rose (Fisk)
Sandman
Scarlet Spider
Scorpion
Scrier
Shathra
Shocker
Shriek
Spidercide
Spider-Girl
Spiderman
Tarranchula
Tombstone
Tri-Sentinel
Venom
Vermin
Vulture

 

[Phaedrus45]

Just one hour until I get to see X-Men 3! Can't wait.

Spider-Man

Keep:

Black Cat
Calypso
Cardiac
Carnage
Carrion
Chameleon
Demogoblin
Doctor Octopus
Doppleganger
Electro
Ezekial
Fusion
Green Goblin (Norman)
Hobgoblin (Kingsley)
Hydroman
Jack O-Lantern
Judas Traveler
Kaine
Kraven the Hunter
Lady Doc Ock
Lizard
Molten Man
Mysterio
Puma
Rhino
Sandman
Scarlet Spider
Scorpion
Shathra
Shocker
Shriek
Spidercide
Spider-Girl
Spiderman
Tarantula
Venom
Vermin
Vulture

Drop:

Green Goblin (Harry) - Just too similiar.
Hammerhead
Hobgoblin - Doesn't really matter which one.
The Rose (Fisk) - Pretty boring character for this competition.
Midnight
Jackel
Tombstone
Scrier

Iffy:

Tri-Sentinel - Not sure if it belongs in this tournament. It's not like it's a person, and would need to have directions from someone as to who to attack, right?

Potentials:

Chtylok
The Answer
Armada
Basilist
Black Tarantula
Joystick
Crown
D'Spayre
Griffin
Headsman
Killer Shrike
Lightmaster
Man-Wolf
Morlun
Quicksand
Scorcher
Scream
Shadrac
Stegron
Toxin
Wraith

 

[JewishHobbit]

Spider-Man

Keep:

Black Cat
Calypso
Cardiac
Carnage
Carrion
Demogoblin
Doctor Octopus
Doppleganger
Electro
Ezekial
Fusion
Green Goblin (Norman)
Hobgoblin (Kingsley)
Hydroman
Jack O-Lantern
Judas Traveler
Kaine
Kraven the Hunter
Lady Doc Ock
Lizard
Mysterio
Puma
Rhino
Sandman
Scarlet Spider
Scorpion (Gorgan) - I'm assuming this is without Symbiote? Also, I clarified Gorgan because of the new girl Scorpion that's around
Shathra
Shocker
Shriek
Spidercide
Spider-Girl
Spiderman - do we want current Iron Spidey or Red & Blue?
Tarantula - There's been two that I can think of (black one and red one) which do we want?
Tri-Sentinel - The Tri-Sentinel was created by Loki and was given a personality of its own. It does as it wants to do, mostly mindless rampages, but if there's one person in his way, he will attack that one person. I think he's fine to be in the tournament.
Venom (Brock) - I'm sad that I have to clarify this now
Vermin
Vulture

Drop:

Green Goblin (Harry) - This pains me because I liked Harry better than Norman any day of the week. But there's no point in having 2 Goblins, and if we can only have one, Norman's the way to go. Harry's shown too many hesitations.
Hammerhead - Boring character that isn't going to go far.
Hobgoblin (Macendale) - I didn't mind Macendale, but Kingsley was the more effective Hobgoblin.
The Rose (Fisk) - I agree, he wouldn't do much, though I like the character.
Chameleon - Same as above
Midnight - I don't know what character we used last season, but the one listed here wasn't used. He was only in one arc, an evil cyborg that was Moon Knights old partner gone bad. He's a little known character and unneeded.

Iffy:
Jackle - I can't decide on if he's too lame or okay. He's an okay fighter (especially during the Clone Saga) but his real threat is his intellect. He has some good resources that could maybe be helpful. The problem is that I don't see him going beyond round one.
Molten Man - Again, love the character, but doesn't bring much to the tournament. However, he did once have this flaming man of fire thing going for a while, and I think that combined with his metal skin could make him a bigger threat.
Tombstone - I'm torn on him because though he doesn't do much more than punch, he's got bullet proof skin and is a murderer with mob connections, putting him into a slightly more deadly level than Luke Cage, who was included in the tourney.
Scrier - I love the Clone Saga but I haven't really caught on to what the Scriers can do? Are they basically just telepaths who can teleport or what?


Potentials:
Toxin
Digger
Nightwatch - Though I think he's under another list. This is just in case he isn't.
Will-O-the Wisp
Morlun - I could have sworn he was in it last season?
Grey Goblin (Gabriel Osborne) - He's another Goblin, but more recent. He also didn't show any hesitations that made Harry a weak character for the tourney

 

[JewishHobbit]

Just thought of an Avengers character that we could add to the Potentials list. Daisy Johnson from Secret War and recent New Avengers issues. She's the girl that has Nick Fury level Shield clearance (and resources), that can create earthquakes in anything. She leveled a castle and she's exploded Wolverine's heart from the inside.

 

[Phaedrus45]

http://www.samruby.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiderman

 

[Phaedrus45]

I updated my potential list. Under that Samruby website, there are just tons of characters who could be in this contest.

Anyway, after reading what JH had to say, I put some characters in the Drop section. I do think that Chameleon isn't a bad character, though...he could have a little potential.

I know Nightwatch is on the list. I will state, even though I did take him pretty far in the tournament, I hated having him. There is little to no information on him, and everything I debated was just conjecture. I say, due to the lack of good information, he's better dropped.

 

[JewishHobbit]

I know Nightwatch is on the list. I will state, even though I did take him pretty far in the tournament, I hated having him. There is little to no information on him, and everything I debated was just conjecture. I say, due to the lack of good information, he's better dropped.

Yeah okay, I'm alright with that. He's basically Spawn, just without the whole dead thing.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Potentials
Chtylok Who?
The Answer
Armada
Basilist
Black Tarantula We already have one Tarantula in the tourney. I think that should be enough.
Joystick I thought she was under the Thunderbolts section?
Crown
D'Spayre He's in the same rank as Nightmare, who we called too uber
Griffin Eh, not feeling him
Headsman
Killer Shrike We can find better characters
Lightmaster
Man-Wolf
Morlun
Quicksand We already have a Sandman
Scorcher
Scream Wow, I never knew she had a name... cool.
Shadrac
Stegron Eh, not feeling him
Toxin
Wraith

To add to these and my own list, I'd also like to see:

Styx
Stones
Maybe some members of the Jury
Gaunt (Mendel Stromm)

 

[Phaedrus45]

Chtylok

It says this creature went toe to toe for hours with The Hulk.

Also, I like Black Tarantula a lot better. He's way more current, and is even appearing in Spider-Girl recently.

 

[Johnny Blaze]

Morlun - I could have sworn he was in it last season?

Nope, he was not involved in the last tourny. I had him on my list, but you didn't let me have him because he was not one of the characters you had posted.
So, he should definitely be included this time around.