The Dark Knight Rises Det Harvey Bullock

[Laderlappen]

Bullock isnt second rate like Flass and Wuertz.

His presence in the comics is much greater and Mickey certainly has that presence. It would be cool if Bullock and Gordon were at logger heads,like Bullock was in competition to prove he would better as Commissioner. Bullock as we know isnt keen on Batman,this movie should show the hate he had for him,coming dead close to killing him. I would like this to carry on into future movies and after Batman is cleared,they still have that dislike tension about them.

But he is not a major character and shouldnt be.

 

[david icke]

Bullock isnt second rate like Flass and Wuertz.

His presence in the comics is much greater and Mickey certainly has that presence. It would be cool if Bullock and Gordon were at logger heads,like Bullock was in competition to prove he would better as Commissioner. Bullock as we know isnt keen on Batman,this movie should show the hate he had for him,coming dead close to killing him. I would like this to carry on into future movies and after Batman is cleared,they still have that dislike tension about them.

Yeah, Bullock's been a strong supporting Batman stalwart since the early 80s. It's perfectly natural to think he may be written in as a role whose screentime is comparable to Alfred or Fox.
But i don't think the character should be taken so far that he actively wants to kill Batman. He should want to bring Batman in, and not be into the vigilante idea, but he should reserve that kind of hate for the crooks, and should be able to put aside his differences with Batman when it comes to tracking down the a real bad crook.
But, if he is brought in on the next one as part of a Batman task force, and is under the impression Batman killed cops, he could be used as a cop who is more than willing to shoot to kill to get ahold of him.

 

[david icke]

But he is not a major character and shouldnt be.

I'm sorry but this is a bizarre statement.

He's been in the comics regularly since the early 80s, and is no more or less a 'major' character than Fox was in the comics.
He could easily be written as the second most important cop role when written into a Nolan film. edit: Or any Batman film for that matter, but especially the next one, as there will be cops after Batman.

 

[Laderlappen]

Fox isnt a major character in the comics.

If the 3rd will be alot about Gordon like TDK was about Dent, then maybe we can discuss a big actor(pun). Also does he really need to be fat?

 

[Rodrigo90]

How about a younger, thinner Bullock? I put him around him to mid 40s in the comics.

 

[Mr. Earle]

Fox isnt a major character in the comics.

If the 3rd will be alot about Gordon like TDK was about Dent, then maybe we can discuss a big actor(pun). Also does he really need to be fat?

He is fat, dirty, and eats donuts. He's that type of guy that doesnt care for his appearence and smells from a mile away.

Anyway, i dont really care for him. We already have enough characters and there isnt anything he can offer, other than stealing screentime. The only thing i could use him for, is a strong anti-Batmanite, as he always has been, making it even harder for Gordon to work with Batman.

 

[david icke]

Fox isnt a major character in the comics.

If the 3rd will be alot about Gordon like TDK was about Dent, then maybe we can discuss a big actor(pun). Also does he really need to be fat?

Your original point was that a major actor will not play Bullock.
Now, you are saying Fox was not a major character in the books.
But, my original point was that Fox was played by a major actor, so Bullock could be too.
There is a different size in role and importance with folk like Alfred and Fox, to Wuertz and Ramierez, like you were automatically comparing Bullock to.

So, let's get the rankings right, there are 3 we are dealing with, not two.

Major roles - eg Batman, the Joker, Dent etc

Major supporting roles - eg Fox, Alfred, Gordon etc

Minor supporting roles - eg Wuertz, Ramirez, Flass, etc

If you are saying that Bullock would automatically be included in the minor roles, I would think again, Especially when we will have a 3rd movie concerned with cops being after Batman. Gordon being the only cop who will not be into the task, and Wuertz and Ramirez being dead and out of action.
bottom line, if Bullock was a major supporting act, it would not be strange to think Rourke could play him.

 

[david icke]

Anyway, i dont really care for him. We already have enough characters and there isnt anything he can offer, other than stealing screentime. The only thing i could use him for, is a strong anti-Batmanite, as he always has been, making it even harder for Gordon to work with Batman.

There is a big gap for cop characters. The old commish was put out of commision, Wertz is dead, Ramirez is out of action, I assume she would be sacked from the force by now.
The only speaking cop role we have left apart from Gordon is the guy who played Holzt in Angel, they guy the Joker took hostage.
In a movie that concerns Batman being hunted by cops it will need a couple of speaking cop roles, at least one of which should be major supporting as Gordon knows of Batman's innocence.

 

[Mr. Earle]

Dude, GPD does not consist of 5 cops.

 

[david icke]

Dude, GPD does not consist of 5 cops.

You're missing the point, I'm talking about speaking roles, not a gaggle of extras. There should be a strong speaking role talking to Gordon and arguing about the Batman problem.
If Gordon was the only strong cop role in a batman movie where the plot was partly made up of cops going after BM there would be a problem. Gordon will have to be shown to be holding back from getting Batman, while at the same time looking as if he is doing his job to the best of his ability, leaving room for a strong speaking cop role of an antagonist who will question Gordon's methods.
Therefore, of course there is room for Bullock if they should so desire to bring him in and have his lovely face plastered on some movie tie-in doughnut boxes.

 

[Laderlappen]

Your original point was that a major actor will not play Bullock.
Now, you are saying Fox was not a major character in the books.
But, my original point was that Fox was played by a major actor, so Bullock could be too.
There is a different size in role and importance with folk like Alfred and Fox, to Wuertz and Ramierez, like you were automatically comparing Bullock to.

So, let's get the rankings right, there are 3 we are dealing with, not two.

Major roles - eg Batman, the Joker, Dent etc

Major supporting roles - eg Fox, Alfred, Gordon etc

Minor supporting roles - eg Wuertz, Ramirez, Flass, etc

If you are saying that Bullock would automatically be included in the minor roles, I would think again, Especially when we will have a 3rd movie concerned with cops being after Batman. Gordon being the only cop who will not be into the task, and Wuertz and Ramirez being dead and out of action.
bottom line, if Bullock was a major supporting act, it would not be strange to think Rourke could play him.

Yes I understand what you're saying. He could be what you consider 'Major supporting role'. I understan the comparison with Fox and Freeman.

But they made Fox an important character for these movies. I dont see Bullock being as an important character as Fox is if he is included. I dont expect Bullock to be a big character in the next movie. Possibly not as minor as Wuertz and Flass, but closer to that than Gordon and Fox. Thats why I think some are aiming a bit too high.

 

[david icke]

Yes I understand what you're saying. He could be what you consider 'Major supporting role'. I understan the comparison with Fox and Freeman.

But they made Fox an important character for these movies. I dont see Bullock being as an important character as Fox is if he is included. I dont expect Bullock to be a big character in the next movie. Possibly not as minor as Wuertz and Flass, but closer to that than Gordon and Fox. Thats why I think some are aiming a bit too high.

Ok, so we need another category now, the not-so -major-and not-so-minor supporting role.

Well, considering Micky Rourke is a not-so-major-and-not-so-minor- movie star, he could get the role.

btw, sorry for saying your post was bizarre, i just didn't understand why you couldn't equate him with a long standing supporting character like Fox(edit: in that Bullock would definitely not be played by a 'name' actor), and why you thought he 'shouldn't' be a major character. but, we had our lines crossed somewhat on what we consider major, minor, and somewhat major and minor meant, ok, this is reminding me of my old recorder lessons in school, no more major or minor talk from me for a bit.

 

[ALittlePush]

I think Wade Williams could be a good Bullock. He played Bellick in Prison Break.

 

[Venomfan]

i've always thought james gandolfini would be great, thats who i had in mind from TAS anyway. as for bringing him in for the next movie, my idea was that Gordon calls him in because he needs a tough loyal guy who will help keep the other cops straight after all the crap that happend in TDK, i didnt even think of the batman hunt

 

[Rodrigo90]

Bring in a Batman Task Force Team,a group of top notch detectives from different cities, hired by Mayor Garcia. Theyre assigned to GPD to hunt down Batman and eventually the Riddler. Riddler then begins to kill them off in his deathtraps.

Bullock would come from NYC and has worked on and solved a lot of killer cases in NY. But he believes Gordons methods to catching Batman are sloppy and highly questionable and tries to take charge of the team and operation ,but they soon become under fire from Riddler...

 

[TheBatman072]

Bring in a Batman Task Force Team,a group of top notch detectives from different cities, hired by Mayor Garcia. Theyre assigned to GPD to hunt down Batman and eventually the Riddler. Riddler then begins to kill them off in his deathtraps.

Bullock would come from NYC and has worked on and solved a lot of killer cases in NY. But he believes Gordons methods to catching Batman are sloppy and highly questionable and tries to take charge of the team and operation ,but they soon become under fire from Riddler...

I like this idea. But hell, use the Gordon task force from Dark Victory. But instead of looking for the Hangman(or whatever he was called), have them look for Batman.

I remember somebody on here who had an idea of Riddler being, at first, a famous FBI profiler. A genius, who always gets his man(the rest of this might have been their idea, but I can't remember). But the twist to Edward's success is that instead of actually finding the guilty, he just frames innocent people of the crimes in intricate ways. Eddie's assigned to Batman's case, and Batman launches his own investigation on Eddie, "all his cases wrapping up a little too conveniently." He figures out that Eddie's built his entire career on lies, and turns all the info over to the police. Eddie makes a run for it and for the rest of the movie tries to kill Batman by outsmarting him, trying to prove that HE'S the smarter of the two.

I don't know. I kind of like that idea.

 

[Brother Jack]

I'd love to see Bullock be brought in, like as Gordon's 2nd-hand man (the cynic to his optimism).

 

[Spider-Kurt!]

Regardless of who plays him,I would basically like to see Bullock introduced as a cop who's methods are occasionally somewhat questionable but still is part of a task force brought in to capture Batman. While working with Gordon and the GCPD,he realises that Gordon has been helping Batman despite it being his priority to capture apprehend him.

 

[Two-Face]

Yeah it's perfect time to bring in Bullock a guy that hates Batman at first and doesn't approve of Batman's method but in the end Bullock sees Gotham in need of Batman.

 

[Punisher Rising]

Either John Goodman or James Gandolfini would be great for Bullock. Of the two, I'd probably go with Goodman but either would be great.

 

[Jahu-Momus]

Why do people want a thinner, younger Bullock? He's always been the fat cop who thinks he is better than he really is. That's what makes him so great as a character, the fat guy who thinks he's the greatest, and shows that he can actually do a good portion of what he says. He's kinda like the Guy Gardner of the GPD, but can take more than a punch.

 

[TheBatman072]

 

[Rodrigo90]

Bullock is a very interesting character. You could have him as a good guy or a bad guy. But its best to have him good. in B89 Eckhardt was based on Bullock and Begins's Flass was based on Eckhardt. So I suggest Bullock as a strong moral character that he is off nowadays and not the corrupt man he was back in the day.

I also suggest he appears more respectable than what he does in the comics,because of the foolish decision to make Flass look like him and Eckhardt.

If Bullock is a main character,then I say Mickey Rourke should play him.

 

[RustyCage]

I dunno why everyone wants Bullock to not look like Bullock (save, like, two people that have posted so far).

I want him to look like Bullock, myself. He looks that way for a reason, it's a big part of his character.

 

[Mr. Earle]

I dunno why everyone wants Bullock to not look like Bullock (save, like, two people that have posted so far).

I want him to look like Bullock, myself. He looks that way for a reason, it's a big part of his character.

Thats how these boards work:

- Hey what if the Riddler was in the next film?
- Yeah, he could be trained by Ras, and wearing a black suit, no green, no question marks. And he'd be working as an FBI agent.
- Okaaaay... I'd also like to see Harley Quinn.
- Yeah! What if Harley is Bruce's half sister and she turns evil to get his attention?
- .... Anyway... Maybe they could bring in the Mad Hatter as well.
- That would be awesome! He could be Ras' student and the Joker's brother and....
- GET THE **** OUT!