The Dark Knight Did anyone feel a stinking feeling in their stomach when the joker..

[Paradyme]

Nope it didn't. It crossed my mind but I'm glad they didn't cut the scene because it was an incredible one.

 

[Knives and Lint]

How am I mocking people? I'm telling people to get a grip and be rational. And yes it really does bother me that these people are still mourning someone that they didn't know. If they were really concerned about a strangers welfare, wouldn't they mourn more than just an actor who played they Joker? Wouldn't they mourn complete strangers who were victims of fatal car accidents, or victims of murder ect ect? No, they mourn an actor because it's a fashionable thing to do. Every generation wants a martyr so people can draw annention to themselves and mourn and people are trying to make Heath Ledger this.

Again, I tell everyone to get a grip. He's dead. The world goes on.

Look there are a lot of Heath fans on this forum, you don't think your comments would piss people off and start a fight?

Seriously lets just stop, I don't want the topic locked.
I'm still waiting for people's responses about how he killed the guy - but no one would prolly answer because their too busy responding to this crap.

Yes I said it, go ahead and continue flaming and quote me like hell on little details which you prolly still going to do because you can't get over your ego.
Just want to move on with the topic and keep some sort of peace.
-sigh-

 

[LostGuy]

I had no problems with that scene. Sure, it crossed my mind even because it made its way to the headlights, but no, I was not disturbed, nor thought it was morbid or whatever. I think people tend to give to much credit to stuff like that.

 

[android fusion]

How am I mocking people? I'm telling people to get a grip and be rational. And yes it really does bother me that these people are still mourning someone that they didn't know. If they were really concerned about a strangers welfare, wouldn't they mourn more than just an actor who played they Joker? Wouldn't they mourn complete strangers who were victims of fatal car accidents, or victims of murder ect ect? No, they mourn an actor because it's a fashionable thing to do. Every generation wants a martyr so people can draw annention to themselves and mourn and people are trying to make Heath Ledger this.

Again, I tell everyone to get a grip. He's dead. The world goes on.

Just out of curiosity, were you even remotely upset when hearing of heath's death, or did you just have no care for it? Again not bashing you, just wanted to know. And after seeing Heath's performance as the joker, were you even remotely upset that you wouldn't see him again on screen, as the joker or anyone else? I'm not asking if you were reduced to tears, I'm just asking if you felt at least some sort of emotional response to the whole thing. I just want to get a feel of the kind of guy you are.

And this whole argument is pretty silly imo. People are different. Some people take on stronger emotional feelings then others do, that’s just how it is. When watching a movie one person will cry, an other may not. That’s just how people are. I agree with what you’re saying Donk, don’t get me wrong, but you just got to accept that fact that some people just get impacted by things harder then others. They can't help but take it personally, and it affects them on a whole other level then you. You can't go around telling people "to get a grip" because it just isn't that easy for some. I mean, you can argue to the break of dawn, but in the end of the day, some people will still be upset over Heath's death, and that is that.
And are they being irrational or wrong by feeling that way? Absolutely not, everyone should be able to feel the way they wana feel without someone telling them what is the expected response.

 

[The Apocalypse]

Who cares? A very good amount of people here wouldn't still be 'mourning' his death if he wasn't playing the Joker. Seriously, how many of you were more concerned about the well being of the movie then his family? Until you knew the movie was done and his scenes everyone quickly went too, 'God bless his family' and all that stuff.

 

[Christopher Nolan]

I feel very sad for his daughter. she will never see his dad. that's the worst of all.

 

[android fusion]

Was it insensitive when Nicholson was laughing after receiving the news of Ledgers death? Was it insensitive when the WBBC was protesting Heath's funeral simply because he played a gay character? We have barely touched on insensitive my friend. We are merely saddened because he gave such a great performance and this is the only time we will see a Joker of this magnitude. Sure others will come and go,but imo and im sure in the opinions of others everywhere, Heath's portrayal is always gonna be the top of the bar. Sure there are the people that just care about the film and just wish he was alive to do more. Then there are people like me, people who actually care, who feel saddened not just for the loss of a great Joker,but a great man,actor,and a father. I feel horrible for that little girl,not being able to know what a great guy her father was. And it is truly depressing to know that he died so young and left so much behind. But to call us insensitive because we loved his work so much, while there are others here being selfish, and making a mockery of his name, is truly in every sense of the word INSENSITIVE. I KID YOU NOT

Ya, I had a weird feeling when Ledger passed away. I had not met the man, just was familiar with his work. Though when I was following the movie I guess I grew to know him more and more. So when he died I did feel like I lost a friend. It was a bizarre sensation that I don't quite understand but now I understand why people were sad when Mother Theresa, Princess Diana, Elvis, James Dean, and every other famous person out there. Emotions are like opinions, just because you feel something different doesn't mean another person should feel the same as you.

Actually Donk, If you died and Heath had someway of knowing, I think he would of cared. Judging from people on set and from Heath's friends, he was always a nice guy and was nice to people he never even met before.

I was watching the E true hollywood story on him, and I forgot which actor it was but he was trying to go up to Heath and talk to him but got so nervous he couldnt do it. So he went and sat down, a little later Heath comes up to him and introduces himself and starts talking to the guy. How many actors would actually do something like that? (The guy wasn't even one of the big roles in the movie)

I think how some people see it as, it is really sad that he is gone. He had so much potential and his life was cut short. He had a daughter who will never get to know his father. Just that little much will make people care/ miss someone A LOT. Peoples feelings go beyond that little I said but I am just trying to make a point.

I know when I saw the last 10 minutes of the E! true hollywood story, I got a little choked up. YES, I have never met the guy, but he was an amazing person and a good role model. When people like that die, people will care and feel strongly about them.

This is just my OPINION in a nutshell. I know this is a little off topic but I was just trying to state my opinion.

But to the body bad scene, It didnt freak me out of upset me or anything, to me that was the Joker the first time around. The second time , I immediately thought what everyone else did though, about Heath.

Just thought these were some great posts, that I felt needed to be braught up again.

 

[Anguissette1979]

I was so out of the real world and in the movie that it didn't even cross my mind...

 

[donk70]

Just out of curiosity, were you even remotely upset when hearing of heath's death, or did you just have no care for it? Again not bashing you, just wanted to know. And after seeing Heath's performance as the joker, were you even remotely upset that you wouldn't see him again on screen, as the joker or anyone else? I'm not asking if you were reduced to tears, I'm just asking if you felt at least some sort of emotional response to the whole thing. I just want to get a feel of the kind of guy you are.

I was shocked, but that was it. I didn't know the guy so his death had no effect on me.

 

[Matt]

Was it insensitive when Nicholson was laughing after receiving the news of Ledgers death? Was it insensitive when the WBBC was protesting Heath's funeral simply because he played a gay character? We have barely touched on insensitive my friend.

You are comparing things that have nothing to do with what we are talking about. It is very poor debating method.

We are merely saddened because he gave such a great performance and this is the only time we will see a Joker of this magnitude. Sure others will come and go,but imo and im sure in the opinions of others everywhere, Heath's portrayal is always gonna be the top of the bar.

How can you prove that? Have you seen the future? How do you know if someone else were not cast tomorrow they would not do an equal if not better job?

Sure there are the people that just care about the film and just wish he was alive to do more. Then there are people like me, people who actually care, who feel saddened not just for the loss of a great Joker,but a great man,actor,and a father. I feel horrible for that little girl,not being able to know what a great guy her father was. And it is truly depressing to know that he died so young and left so much behind. But to call us insensitive because we loved his work so much, while there are others here being selfish, and making a mockery of his name, is truly in every sense of the word INSENSITIVE. I KID YOU NOT

And here is where you blur the lines between reality and fantasy. How do you know he was a great man? Have you met him? Of course not. Why doesn't one batfan have the balls to just tell the truth and say "I'm upset cause he played the Joker?"

Matt: I think it's clear that most people admire Heath for more than his portrayal of the Joker. But that does not mean we can't also mourn the death of his interpretations as we know them.

No they don't. 90 % of the people on this board do not mourn Heath Ledger. They mourn the guy who played The Joker. If Jude Law (just to use a random actor) was cast as the Joker and died, people would act the same way and then if Heath Ledger died the day after him, people on the Hype would be making gay cowboy jokes. I've read many of the "mourning" posts. People could care less about Heath Ledger, they care about the guy who played the Joker. That is why this is not the same was Princess Di or Mother Teresa. Because the Hype wouldn't have crashed the day the news broke and very few of you would've given a damn if he didn't play the Joker. THAT is what makes it selfish.

 

[Matt]

I was shocked, but that was it. I didn't know the guy so his death had no effect on me.

Likewise. What really shocked me is the response of some of the people, claiming they couldn't go to school or work the next day or had been crying for hours. I know a lot of the posters here are kids and if Heath Ledger's death, a man they never met who they only gave a damn about because he was the Joker, effects them so much, I can only imagine how they will take it when someone they actually know or care about dies.

 

[coleyhinson]

I didn't know him
He didn't know me

Why should I feel bad when I see him in a body bag? He wouldnt feel bad for me if I died.

Seriously, folks need to get a grip

Not acceptable in any way.

---Matt

 

[bkey]

How am I mocking people? I'm telling people to get a grip and be rational. And yes it really does bother me that these people are still mourning someone that they didn't know. If they were really concerned about a strangers welfare, wouldn't they mourn more than just an actor who played they Joker? Wouldn't they mourn complete strangers who were victims of fatal car accidents, or victims of murder ect ect? No, they mourn an actor because it's a fashionable thing to do. Every generation wants a martyr so people can draw attention to themselves and mourn and people are trying to make Heath Ledger this.

Again, I tell everyone to get a grip. He's dead. The world goes on.

Because its all part of the plan. If a gang banger got shot, or a truck full of soldiers was blown up, no one would care.

Personally I agree for the most part with Donk, Matt, and a few others on this issue. Sure I was shocked when I heard he died, I thought it was terrible and sad, but I didn't really mourn or cry about it. I didn't know him personally, and have better things to do with my life than cry about a man who I had no connections with whatsoever. I can understand people who were a fan of his acting might have felt a small affinity with him; but still, he has been dead for seven months now and to still be mourning for him is a little over the top. I know people who have actually lost loved ones who are over their deaths in way shorter times than that.

 

[Norman Bates]

How am I mocking people? I'm telling people to get a grip and be rational. And yes it really does bother me that these people are still mourning someone that they didn't know. If they were really concerned about a strangers welfare, wouldn't they mourn more than just an actor who played they Joker? Wouldn't they mourn complete strangers who were victims of fatal car accidents, or victims of murder ect ect? No, they mourn an actor because it's a fashionable thing to do. Every generation wants a martyr so people can draw attention to themselves and mourn and people are trying to make Heath Ledger this.

Again, I tell everyone to get a grip. He's dead. The world goes on.

I feel sad about his death because he was truly an artist in an art that I respect heavily. It saddens me because we haven't even seen the peak of his talent before he died. This is no Anna Nicole, this is Heath Ledger, a man who obviously cared considerably about his roles and had a passion for acting and cinema such as I. After seeing this movie I think I have the right to feel saddened that we lost such a young and gifted talent. Not because it's fashionable you fool. The world will go on, duh.. but the movie is out now, and the guy is dead. It's going to happen.

 

[Beanjuice]

And here is where you blur the lines between reality and fantasy. How do you know he was a great man? Have you met him? Of course not. Why doesn't one batfan have the balls to just tell the truth and say "I'm upset cause he played the Joker?"

Because im not one of those people. You can point the finger and make assumptions all you want,but unless you have someway of looking into my mind, you really have know way of knowing how i really feel. It actually sickens me to think that people are upset because they wont get to see his version of the joker again. I could really give a **** less about that. a i said before he was someone i've grown up watching, like a childhood hero in a way. Of course when he died i thought"Man now we wont get to see more joker" and right after that thought i was ashamed of myself for being so selfish. Sure there are people that are upset just because of that, sure thee are people that think its sad just because he was an actor and they wanna mourn him for no reason. but take into consideration that there is a small percentage of people who actually do give a rats ass for reason other than the entertainment aspect of it

 

[Beanjuice]

Likewise. What really shocked me is the response of some of the people, claiming they couldn't go to school or work the next day or had been crying for hours. I know a lot of the posters here are kids and if Heath Ledger's death, a man they never met who they only gave a damn about because he was the Joker, effects them so much, I can only imagine how they will take it when someone they actually know or care about dies.

I've lost more friends than you can imagine sir. Heath's death may not have affected me in that way,and i agree its a bit ridiculous that people acted in a way that they did over his death, but i can relate to them if thy saw it the way i did. i saw a young guy with a bright future ahead of him, not only that but someone that i admired,respected and looked up to,die before he should have. Sure i shed a few tears,but i moved on with my life. People die every day,and alot of people dont like to be reminded of it. You may say its childish to mourn an actor and ignore the other deaths in the world. I dont i feel saddened for all death around,its a sad thing. And i feel sad because unlike alot of people here...i have a heart and an open mind. i think beyond things like this

 

[CaptainClown]

Its interesting to see people dictate how others should feel.

 

[Syncos]

The only moment I was taken out of the character was when joker said the line about him and batman fighting forever. Made me realize that we wont see it again in a third. Which kinda sucked.

 

[bunk]

I don't think I ever even saw Ledger at any point. Of course so much is due to the make up. If it were another actor, I'm sure it would be a different story.

 

[Beanjuice]

Its interesting to see people dictate how others should feel.

yeah it is and its truly a shame

 

[donk70]

Its interesting to see people dictate how others should feel.

It's interesting how people cry for 7 months over someone that they didn't know

 

[K.B.]

Ok I saw the movie and when the hell was this body bag scene? Was it after the credits or somethibng cuz I paid attention and did not see any joker in a body bag scene

 

[bkey]

Ok I saw the movie and when the hell was this body bag scene? Was it after the credits or somethibng cuz I paid attention and did not see any joker in a body bag scene

Its when some of the Joker's thugs take his "dead" body to Gambol.

 

[TheBat812]

hmmm I don't really remember that, but on monday I'm seeing it again (lol).
I just find it hard to believe that just cutting a smile would kill the guy. =/

I don't know if he died or not, but it's completely irrelevant to the film.

 

[K.B.]

Its when some of the Joker's thugs take his "dead" body to Gambol.

Oh right I remember now.

Hmmmm maybe I forgot that part because I wasn't one of the nerds who over analyzed every word and movement he made to try and match it up with some sort of false meaning to connect it with his death.