The Dark Knight Did anyone feel a stinking feeling in their stomach when the joker..

[K.B.]

Its when some of the Joker's thugs take his "dead" body to Gambol

Oh right I remember now.


Hmmm...maybe I forgot because I'm not one of the millions of nerds who over analyzed every word and movement he made to give it some sort of false connection to his death.

 

[android fusion]

Wow...This thread reminds me of all those shows and movies where the robot or machine tries to understand why people cry, or feel emotions. It's seriously just like something out of a corny movie...

Shh poster: It’s still pretty upsetting knowing we’ll never see Heath in a movie again
Donk/Matt: Why do you feel this sadness. You did not know the person?
Shh Poster: Well, sometimes…when a person really appreciates another person and the work they do, they feel a sense of loss and sadness at their death
Donk/Mattt: Does not compute.
Shh Poster: Well, have you ever felt upset when a machine was destroyed?
Donk/Matt: I feel no emotions. I was not designed for that function
Shh Poster: Oh, well I guess its just one of those things where you need a heart to understand…
Donk/Matt: Does not compute.

 

[CaptainClown]

Wow...This thread reminds me of all those shows and movies where the robot or machine tries to understand why people cry, or feel emotions. It's seriously just like something out of a corny movie...

Shh poster: It’s still pretty upsetting knowing we’ll never see Heath in a movie again
Donk/Matt: Why do you feel this sadness. You did not know the person?
Shh Poster: Well, sometimes…when a person really appreciates another person and the work they do, they feel a sense of loss and sadness at their death
Donk/Mattt: Does not compute.
Shh Poster: Well, have you ever felt upset when a machine was destroyed?
Donk/Matt: I feel no emotions. I was not designed for that function
Shh Poster: Oh, well I guess its just one of those things where you need a heart to understand…
Donk/Matt: Does not compute.

lol

 

[LastSunrise1981]

But no, Matt...they feel like they KNEW him, as a person!
...'cause he played the Joker...and a dancing knight and a gay cowboy, see?

Says the one who called Michael Jackson a creepy pedophile/child molesting monster and yet not knowing him at all. Isn't hypocrisy fun?

 

[donk70]

Wow...This thread reminds me of all those shows and movies where the robot or machine tries to understand why people cry, or feel emotions. It's seriously just like something out of a corny movie...

Shh poster: It’s still pretty upsetting knowing we’ll never see Heath in a movie again
Donk/Matt: Why do you feel this sadness. You did not know the person?
Shh Poster: Well, sometimes…when a person really appreciates another person and the work they do, they feel a sense of loss and sadness at their death
Donk/Mattt: Does not compute.
Shh Poster: Well, have you ever felt upset when a machine was destroyed?
Donk/Matt: I feel no emotions. I was not designed for that function
Shh Poster: Oh, well I guess its just one of those things where you need a heart to understand…
Donk/Matt: Does not compute.

Nice

So since I didn't cry when Legder died I'm a cold heartless machine

I still stand bt my statement. People are looking for a martyr for their generation and that's why people are still draggin his death out.

Get a grip

 

[jshep]

anyone pm me clips please?

 

[CWP]

It was pretty wild, but it was what made this new style of character in The Dark Knight. I don't think the Joker killed the guy either, I mean, the Joker didn't die from getting his scars.

 

[CaptainClown]

Nice

So since I didn't cry when Legder died I'm a cold heartless machine

I still stand bt my statement. People are looking for a martyr for their generation and that's why people are still draggin his death out.

Get a grip

I don't think you are a cold heartless machine. I however do feel you are not empathetic towards other peoples emotions. Whether you agree or not is your own perogative, however telling people they should get over it is like yelling at the head of a baldman in an effort to get the hair to grow.

 

[The Apocalypse]

Its interesting to see people dictate how others should feel.

How so? Making assumptions is wrong all of a sudden? When people make assumptions that are good it's alright, but when you make an assumption that isn't right then its bad all of a sudden. There is a great chance that if Heath died and he didn't play the Joker he would not be getting so much attention. Am I glad he is? Of course, he did an amazing job acting in this film but if he wasn't the Joker people would have stopped talking about him by now.

 

[coleyhinson]

Nice

So since I didn't cry when Legder died I'm a cold heartless machine

I still stand bt my statement. People are looking for a martyr for their generation and that's why people are still draggin his death out.

Get a grip

not once have i ever heard one single person say..."Heath will be the next Kurt Cobain"... i really think you have hit a new low. Has anyone here really ever thought that he was a martyr for us... the dude was having trouble sleeping... His death was an accident... a horrible thing. He did not think before his death..." When im gone... they will make posters and shirts and converse shoes with my name on it..."

 

[AlterEgo]

no because he was only in the body bag for like 1 minute

 

[xero1186]

So did Jack Nicholson, so did Caesar Romero. They were all great Jokers for the time they were in, but the character will go on, someone else will play him, and fans will rave about him. But until then do any of you realize how damn disrespectful this is? A good majority of you are marginalizing a man's entire life and death to "I never get to see the Joker again." The man's 3 year old daughter will never know her father and you're upset because he can't play the Joker anymore? Its just a tad insensitive.

Bingo! Right to the money. Exactly how I feel about it.

 

[xero1186]

Who cares? A very good amount of people here wouldn't still be 'mourning' his death if he wasn't playing the Joker. Seriously, how many of you were more concerned about the well being of the movie then his family? Until you knew the movie was done and his scenes everyone quickly went too, 'God bless his family' and all that stuff.

Yup.

 

[xero1186]

Here's a big reason why I get frustrated. REALLY frustrated.

Most of you have no idea who this is. That's why I tell you to get a grip.

He's Conway Wickliffe. He's been a stuntman for Batman since Nolan took charge. He had a big part in the movie and it would appear nobody cares.

 

[K.B.]

Here's a big reason why I get frustrated. REALLY frustrated.

Most of you have no idea who this is. That's why I tell you to get a grip.

He's Conway Wickliffe. He's been a stuntman for Batman since Nolan took charge. He had a big part in the movie and it would appear nobody cares.

Your exactly right man and I hope your post put all these "Oh be sensitive to those hurt by Ledgers death" folks in thier place and shut them up once and for all.

While the movie was good it is pretty sickening that WB uses his death as the big "sell point" for this film (you honestly cannot disagree with this) as well as other studios using him to seel dvd's. Anyone see the cover of the bob dylan flick?

Yup its Ledgers face all over it .....

 

[StrainedEyes]

When watching the movie, I really didn't think of Heath in the role. He hid himself so well that I was able to have that disconnect from the character and the actor.

I can honestly say, I never once during the movie thought about Heath or his death, I was just watching an awesome Joker.

It's a real testament to what he was able to accomplish.

 

[Godman]

At the time, no. It went over my head. Now, it makes me sad.

agreed and only because I had heard of the scene closing in on being on the cutting board due to early screenings. people were squeamish but NOlan refused to tarnish ledgers epic job.

 

[Godman]

Your exactly right man and I hope your post put all these "Oh be sensitive to those hurt by Ledgers death" folks in thier place and shut them up once and for all.

While the movie was good it is pretty sickening that WB uses his death as the big "sell point" for this film (you honestly cannot disagree with this) as well as other studios using him to seel dvd's. Anyone see the cover of the bob dylan flick?

Yup its Ledgers face all over it .....

He worked on Batman...turn a tragedy into a triumph and I doubt he's rolling in his grave because of it. He has done what Tupac and Bruce Lee did and became a phenomenon after death. Remember the Crow also with Brandon?

 

[Beanjuice]

Here's a big reason why I get frustrated. REALLY frustrated.

Most of you have no idea who this is. That's why I tell you to get a grip.

He's Conway Wickliffe. He's been a stuntman for Batman since Nolan took charge. He had a big part in the movie and it would appear nobody cares.

Yeah your right the fact that alot of people here forgot about him is downright shameful. he deserves just as much respect, a life is a life no matter who

Your exactly right man and I hope your post put all these "Oh be sensitive to those hurt by Ledgers death" folks in thier place and shut them up once and for all.

While the movie was good it is pretty sickening that WB uses his death as the big "sell point" for this film (you honestly cannot disagree with this) as well as other studios using him to seel dvd's. Anyone see the cover of the bob dylan flick?

Yup its Ledgers face all over it .....

Ok now you are just being a total ass about the subject. Not only are you trying to"Put people in their place" for having a personal opinion on the matter, but your also trying to make WB look like th bad guys. Give me one example of how thy have used Ledgers death as a sell point? Was there any mention of it being his last role in the commercials? No. On the posters? No. The online community is what made his death a big deal for the movie. Neither Nolan, nor WB has slapped anything with Ledger's death on the movie to try and profit from it. Now i see your point with other companies trying to make it known that because he's dead th movie from them should be more meaningful, but no one in relation to dark knight has done that. and i apologize ahead of time for the name calling

 

[Mito88]

how are they using his death as the big sell point?

i havent heard his name mentioned in any of the TV spots.

and why do you keep calling everyone a nerd here?

 

[CaptainClown]

Here's a big reason why I get frustrated. REALLY frustrated.

Most of you have no idea who this is. That's why I tell you to get a grip.

He's Conway Wickliffe. He's been a stuntman for Batman since Nolan took charge. He had a big part in the movie and it would appear nobody cares.

Thats exactly why some people just don't care as much, they didn't know anything about him. It was insanely tragic when the accident occured, I remember when everyone was incredibly saddened by that event. The reason why more people talk about Heaths is that it was like a one way mirror and they were able to know about him through interviews and previous works. Through that people are able to get to know someone. I am sure more people would be just as depressed by Conways accident if they felt they had a strong connection. Unfortunatly we all can't get to know everyone in the world, and if we could life would just be death death death.

How so? Making assumptions is wrong all of a sudden? When people make assumptions that are good it's alright, but when you make an assumption that isn't right then its bad all of a sudden. There is a great chance that if Heath died and he didn't play the Joker he would not be getting so much attention. Am I glad he is? Of course, he did an amazing job acting in this film but if he wasn't the Joker people would have stopped talking about him by now.

That is very true, many of these fans on here were not quite aquinted with Heath before his casting as the Joker. Does that make their liking of him any different? Some people genuinly like his other movies. Who are you to decide what these people feel if its genuine?
Hell that is like saying you wouldn't have liked Kurt Cobain if he didn't do the song "Smells like Teen Spirit" It is sometimes through one work that people become familiar with a character.

I do find it odd that some people are still saddened by his departure, but I find even more peculiar that people are trying to tell others how to feel. If they are sad let them be sad. The only way they will get over it is if they choose to, not if you try and hound them into it.

 

[Lauryn2000]

***Spoiler***



For me, the *dead joker* in the body bag scene always makes my heart sink.
Did any of you guys feel the same?

And no I'm not complaining - the scene was great when he owned the guy,
by the way what did he do to the guy? Did the Joker give him a chelsea grin - but I can't imagine the guy dying instantly because he didn't kick the guy to make him scream for the smile to rip his face apart and kill him. So did he just slit his throat?

Sorry if this has been posted.

My heart sank too...I think the body bag scene was too close to home.Especially since they showed on the news in NYC,Heath Ledger being carried out on the stretcher to the morgue...

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

I got a very uncomfortable feeling the whole film about the fact that Ledger was dead in real life, and made the character himself even more unnerving!

 

[xero1186]

Thats exactly why some people just don't care as much, they didn't know anything about him. It was insanely tragic when the accident occured, I remember when everyone was incredibly saddened by that event.The reason why more people talk about Heaths is that it was like aone way mirrorand they were able to know about him through interviews and previous works. Through that people are able to get to know someone. I am sure more people would be just as depressed by Conways accident if they felt they had a strong connection. Unfortunatly we all can't get to know everyone in the world, and if we could life would just be death death death.

That is very true, many of these fans on here were not quite aquinted with Heath before his casting as the joker. Does that make their liking of him any different? Some people genuinly like his other movies. Who are you to decide what these people feel if its genuine?
Hell that is like saying you wouldn't have liked Kurt Cobain if he didn't do the song "Smells like Teen Spirit" It is sometimes through one work that people become familiar with a character.

I do find it odd that some people are still saddened by his departure, but I find even more peculiar that people are trying to tell others how to feel. If they are sad let them be sad. The only way they will get over it is if they choose to, not if you try and hound them into it.

Please don't ever do the, "THAT'S LIKE SAYING" (insert bad analogy) because I don't like Kurt Cobain and I don't like his music and you're doing exactly to me what you don't want done to you. haha.

I have not told people how to feel. In fact I have gone out of my way to make it a point to say I'm not. I'm just asking why this thread is necessary. Let me try to help you guys out and see what I see in this situation.

A person goes out to see The Dark Knight (and obviously he/she loves it because let's face it this movie is ****ing fantastic). He/she sees a scene in which they see Heath Ledger in a body bag or say something that makes their heart sink or "stink," if you will. (This is where things go downhill) The person comes home and says to him/herself, "I'm going to make a thread to see if OTHER people (that I never met and don't know) feel the same way I did (about someone I don't know) during this one scene in The Dark Knight. It's as though this forum is used to generate some form of closure to ease the pain of his passing)."

You said it yourself. If many of these fans are there because he played the Joker, this makes their genuine disposition really hard to believe. I feel deep down more people care about the fact that he will never be playing the Joker again opposed to the fact that he passed away. My personal feelings are that it's a shame he died but I'm not going to lie and say I ever gave a hoot about anything he did before Dark Knight. Brothers Grimm STILL sucks to this day and I hated a Knights tale. When someone dies it does not mean you have to love everything about them.

Yeah, it's true that people won't know Conway as well as Heath but like you said, it's a one way mirror. People CHOOSE to know Heath. People went out of their way. Are you suggesting that Heath's life was more valuable and rich in his time than Conway's? If you're going to be sad about someone you never knew you might as well give the others you don't know the common courtesy of giving a **** too.

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v. intr.
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[adhokk7]

Its never until the end that I realize I'm just a guy in the theater again.

This is one of the coolest sentences I have ever read.