Age of Ultron Early Avengers 2 Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 1

[dalonewolf]

Agreed. He seems to post a lot in box office threads and always seems to lowball every Marvel film. He lost a lot of credibility when he said GotG would be a box office failure and then went on the BvS forum to bash the MCU before being called out on it.

Dude imbd even has CW at 875
And bvs at 1.08bil
I'm not low balling by any means but you guys are
Batman broke a billion alone
And you all think that bvs will be in the low 800's
I'm not trying to make this a marvel vs dc thing but dc has the edge
Now
It will open unopposed for weeks
Beverly hill cop has been canceled it has less competition as a matter of fact it has no competition

 

[Tony Stark]

Oh, IMDB says so, there's a reputable box office site.

 

[dalonewolf]

Oh, IMDB says so, there's a reputable box office site.

All predictions could be wrong are right.
It's just a f@=#ing prediction none of us really knows what any flim is gonna make
But I could tell you this
Age of ultron will not make as much of the avengers
But all the professionals here said it would
Take that to the bank and cash it

 

[Iceman]

Dude imbd even has CW at 875
And bvs at 1.08bil
I'm not low balling by any means but you guys are
Batman broke a billion alone
And you all think that bvs will be in the low 800's
I'm not trying to make this a marvel vs dc thing but dc has the edge
Now
It will open unopposed for weeks
Beverly hill cop has been canceled it has less competition as a matter of fact it has no competition

You live for Marvel vs DC dude. t:

 

[hafizbat]

At this point in the game quality is far more important than novelty. Between BvS and CW, the better movie will probably make more.

 

[dalonewolf]

You live for Marvel vs DC dude. t:

Aren't all of us???
We all sit here and predict things that we have no ideal how it will proform
And we never take into consideration the main factor
Will the movie be good???
Bvs will make a billion just off hype
CW isn't garenteed that
Just as age of ultron wasn't for 2bil
Don't get me wrong the movie will most definitely hit 1.3-1.4bil
Just will not gross more than the avengers which is still a success nomatter which way you cut it
875 for CW is good for a captain america flim
But I don't think it will be in the billion dollar club just my prediction
Just as you all are free to predict so do I

 

[Webfoot Hero]

Aren't all of us???
We all sit here and predict things that we have no ideal how it will proform
And we never take into consideration the main factor
Will the movie be good???
Bvs will make a billion just off hype
CW isn't garenteed that
Just as age of ultron wasn't for 2bil
Don't get me wrong the movie will most definitely hit 1.3-1.4bil
Just will not gross more than the avengers which is still a success nomatter which way you cut it
875 for CW is good for a captain america flim
But I don't think it will be in the billion dollar club just my prediction
Just as you all are free to predict so do I

And we have to right to call you out on your BS predictions and baiting fans into doing a MCU vs DC fight. Why don't you go back to your BvS and SS threads where you seem to be more at home?

 

[Docker2.0]

Aren't all of us???
We all sit here and predict things that we have no ideal how it will proform
And we never take into consideration the main factor
Will the movie be good???
Bvs will make a billion just off hype
CW isn't garenteed that
Just as age of ultron wasn't for 2bil
Don't get me wrong the movie will most definitely hit 1.3-1.4bil
Just will not gross more than the avengers which is still a success nomatter which way you cut it
875 for CW is good for a captain america flim
But I don't think it will be in the billion dollar club just my prediction
Just as you all are free to predict so do I

You are lucky the right mod ain't in here. Some will consider you trolling.
I honestly see no reason to even bring up BvS in this thread. I can understand CW but there is literally nothing it has in common with this film. Heck they don't even come out in the same year.

 

[Iceman]

Aren't all of us???
We all sit here and predict things that we have no ideal how it will proform
And we never take into consideration the main factor
Will the movie be good???
Bvs will make a billion just off hype
CW isn't garenteed that
Just as age of ultron wasn't for 2bil
Don't get me wrong the movie will most definitely hit 1.3-1.4bil
Just will not gross more than the avengers which is still a success nomatter which way you cut it
875 for CW is good for a captain america flim
But I don't think it will be in the billion dollar club just my prediction
Just as you all are free to predict so do I

I'm not talking about predictions. You're obsessed with the Marvel vs DC battle. I have been in the BvS box office forums and read every post since the beginning so I know the truth. Unfortunately for you I'm an equal fan of both with no bias (if I have to choose I choose X-Men comics), so it becomes very obvious to me when someone does have one. Reread your posts here, you're apologising for your CW predictions. If they are your true predictions and you have no bias you have no reason to apologise for making them. You say you all think BvS will be in the low 800s even though you have already congratulated me in the BvS BO forums for making a much, much higher prediction. That's because there you saw me as an ally because I predicted high in that post but not so much on the Avengers BO forum where you assume I'll be anti BvS. You'll enjoy all this more when you don't worry about this battle so much.

 

[JeetKuneDo]

At this point in the game quality is far more important than novelty. Between BvS and CW, the better movie will probably make more.

When is that ever accepted as a measure of quality by anyone?

Just try it....go here and see if you think these movies are in order of quality:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/genres/chart/?id=comicbookadaptation.htm

Not saying there is any other measure of quality either. t: All the other methods are easy to disprove as well.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

Aren't all of us???

No.

 

[warhorse78]

Seems to me that while quality in that box office mojo list may be subjective, it does seem to paint that the top movies tend to be ones that have a very strong positive WOM. while the others are sequels to movies that had strong WOM.

 

[HammerDown]

The US box office is just becoming a secondary thing really...
The foreign markets are becoming more and more where the money is to be made. Imo
The first Avengers had a 60%foreign/40%US gross. The AOU is gonna be around a 70%foreign/30%Us gross by the looks of it.

People shouldn't underestimate the worldwide gross.
We still have China that made a total of 86M and Japan 45M in the first Avengers, to open to AOU...

I think this movie is gonna do more than the first one due to the increase in the worldwide gross.

 

[Docker2.0]

The US box office is just becoming a secondary thing really...
The foreign markets are becoming more and more where the money is to be made. Imo
The first Avengers had a 60%foreign/40%US gross. The AOU is gonna be around a 70%foreign/30%Us gross by the looks of it.

People shouldn't underestimate the worldwide gross.
We still have China that made a total of 86M and Japan 45M in the first Avengers, to open to AOU...

I think this movie is gonna do more than the first one due to the increase in the worldwide gross.

Sportshoopla guy?

Anyway, I agree. Them making $1.5B WW is better than making $400 DOM.

 

[Mysteryman]

Sportshoopla guy?

Anyway, I agree. Them making $1.5B WW is better than making $400 DOM.

AOU is gong to end up doing both.

 

[Docker2.0]

AOU is gong to end up doing both.

We hope!

 

[jmc]

From what I understand studios still rely on the domestic Nth American box office to earn most of their money. Just because there's growth in the international market doesn't mean all of that money goes back to the studios, it might look good on paper but that doesn't actually mean the film has earned all that much for the studio. I read an article that stated after exchange rates (which fluctuates), overseas marketing costs and local distributors taking their slice of the cash studios can see as little as 15% returns from overseas box office. It's why a Harry Potter film can earn almost a billion dollars and still lose money.

 

[PunyGod]

From what I understand studios still rely on the domestic Nth American box office to earn most of their money. Just because there's growth in the international market doesn't mean all of that money goes back to the studios, it might look good on paper but that doesn't actually mean the film has earned all that much for the studio. I read an article that stated after exchange rates (which fluctuates), overseas marketing costs and local distributors taking their slice of the cash studios can see as little as 15% returns from overseas box office. It's why a Harry Potter film can earn almost a billion dollars and still lose money.

The first part of your post is true but the bolded is trickier. So called "Hollywood Accounting" comes into play whenever the studios talk about profitably. In fact according to them none of their movies make a profit.

 

[jmc]

You are correct, Hollywood has always been good at fudging figures. It wouldn't surprise me if many of histories biggest box office movies never actually made a profit during a their theatrical run, especially with todays budgets climbing north of $250m a film. It's mind boggling the production budgets nowadays.

 

[Mysteryman]

I remember Paramount claiming Fatal Attraction didn't make any money.
Not true of course .
The story was recounted in a book called Fatal Subtraction .

 

[Bruce Malone]

It is a fact that it is a lot harder for studio's to get their monies worth from China as a market.

Lots of tariffs and taxes that are put on foreign films.

I think that's why some Americian films are actually partnering with Chinese backers to cut down on that?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The same way everybody thought Age of Ultron was a lock to gross over 500 million? We will see, I'm not counting on it though. The Marvel characters coming together doesn't have the same novelty it did in 2012. I'm only thinking over 350mil because of Spider-Man.

I'm not even going to covertly get into a Marvel v DC thing. I'll discuss that as the films get closer to release but not now. I'm talking about Civil War in relation to Age of Ultron right now.

I think it is about the reception. That is how you get legs. The front end will be easily, the back end is the question.

I think Iron Man 3 numbers would be acceptable domestically. That initial wave of euphoria at these new properties I think has passed but I also think the MCU can persist at slightly lower but still large numbers long term (domestically).

That isn't the question. We are talking about fatigue. This is one of the reasons why I still think Star Wars will win the year. It is a brand, but fresh.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

You are correct, Hollywood has always been good at fudging figures. It wouldn't surprise me if many of histories biggest box office movies never actually made a profit during a their theatrical run, especially with todays budgets climbing north of $250m a film. It's mind boggling the production budgets nowadays.

The budgets have adjusted for inflation. It is how things go. The biggest box office hits always make money. The studios just like about it.

What are you talking about?! It made $100M this weekend...................




















































In my heart.

You are as good at predicting Box Office numbers as you are at predicting boxing matches.

 

[jmc]

I don't know if inflation has been that big a leap.

 

[Docker2.0]

The budgets have adjusted for inflation. It is how things go. The biggest box office hits always make money. The studios just like about it.


You are as good at predicting Box Office numbers as you are at predicting boxing matches.

I picked one fight wrong and you won't let it go. Geez! Shut up darn it!!!