Age of Ultron Early Avengers 2 Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 1

[rashad]

China Box Office Opening Week: 'Avengers: Age of Ultron' Scores 2nd Highest Opening Day of All-Time with $33.9 Million; Two-Day Estimate at $54.03 Million
May 12, 2015

Jonathan Papish @ChinaBoxOffice

WEDNESDAY UPDATE
Disney is reporting that Ultron grossed $33.9 million on its opening Tuesday, more than double Iron Man 3's debut and more than the 2-day opening of The Avengers in 2012.

EntGroup China estimates Ultron fell 42% on Wednesday for $19.87 million and a two-day total of $54.03 million. That's a steep drop for a second day (Furious 7 maintained higher single day grosses throughout its entire first week), but this also may indicate more casual fans of the Marvel franchise will wait until the weekend to view the film.

However, Ultron has a 7.7 rating on Mtime, a 7.4 rating on Douban, and a 7.9 rating on Weibo, while Furious 7 scored 8.3, 8.4, and 8.8 respectively so word of mouth won't be as strong going into the weekend.

http://pro.boxoffice.com/statistics...d-highest-debut-of-all-time-with-3247-million

 

[Iceman]

I haven't actually seen Furious 7 yet. Wonder why they loved it so much compared to everything else. The above still suggests AoU will do well in China though. F7 numbers are insane but AoU can go some way towards them even if not quite to that level.

 

[Docker2.0]

I haven't actually seen Furious 7 yet. Wonder why they loved it so much compared to everything else. The above still suggests AoU will do well in China though. F7 numbers are insane but AoU can go some way towards them even if not quite to that level.

Paul Walker died. Sadly, that tends to boost movie's box office. Sad but true.

 

[Tymminator]

Paul Walker died. Sadly, that tends to boost movie's box office. Sad but true.

As a Paul Walker tribute it's cool, but seriously FF7 was not as good as 6 and was not even in the same league as 5.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Avengers fans sure are pissy about the success of Furious 7.

 

[Vartha]

I'm not

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Of course I don't mean all Avengers fans but a lot seem jealous of Furious 7's success.

It's not like Furious 7's success negates Age of Ultron's success. Both films are smash hits.

 

[Vartha]

I still need to see 7. Though I want to see AoU again first in 3D.

 

[JKKS085]

I think the fact that FF7 was only a 2d release makes it already more impressive.

I'm pretty sure based on that it has already sold more tickets than A1.

Fast & Furious 7 was actually released in 3D and Imax 3D overseas.

 

[Marvin]

Paul Walker died. Sadly, that tends to boost movie's box office. Sad but true.

Something to consider about this circumstance.
When the american actor Ledger died and 'boosted' TDK's intrigue/reception that was mainly seen in it's domestic performance, which makes sense given he was a 'big' american actor. When it comes to Paul Walker boosting this particular films revenue, just what has he done for it's domestic numbers? It's not doing TDK freak domestic numbers clearly, it's not doing hunger game stuff, I'm not even sure it's doing GOTG numbers..
What's odd is that this american actors death is being attributed to boosting the films foreign numbers? Notice how this didn't really happen with TDK....
I just find that odd and interesting.

Granted alot of this is fails to take into account that TDK did not get a China release(even back then it may have been pretty significant).

Long story short, Pauls death, like ledgers should be reflected in the domestic numbers I think(and I don't really see anything 'that' impressive happening). Explaining china has to take other things into account to a degree. Such as the emerging Car culture over there.

 

[marcvader]

I think the Furious 7 thing is that most people that are fans of the franchise admit parts 5 and 6 are much better yet this one has blown those out of the water. It's legs have been crazy. Why didn't the other installments do anywhere near this good? It's crazy. I'm curious about the next one.

 

[rashad]

I'm not even sure it's doing GOTG numbers.[/B].

Furious 7 - $339M and counting
GOTG - $333M

 

[Bruce Malone]

Fast & Furious 7 was actually released in 3D and Imax 3D overseas.

Hmm didn't know that. Still based on the fact that not all markets had 3D and that their WW totals are very close I still think its likely it's already surpassed A1 in ticket sales or will shortly.

 

[KangConquers]

Of course I don't mean all Avengers fans but a lot seem jealous of Furious 7's success.

It's not like Furious 7's success negates Age of Ultron's success. Both films are smash hits.

It's sort of an us vs Them mentality probably. I remember being disappointed when Fast 5 opened a can on Thor (though it was admittedly a better movie than Thor was.)

People want what they like to do well. I don't think it's harmful as long as they aren't posting on an internet forum and arguing about it with other...

*looks around* Oh, crap.

 

[Tony Stark]

I think the Furious 7 thing is that most people that are fans of the franchise admit parts 5 and 6 are much better yet this one has blown those out of the water. It's legs have been crazy. Why didn't the other installments do anywhere near this good? It's crazy. I'm curious about the next one.

It really didn't have good legs, infact it will likely end up with at 2.4 or less multiplier. It made what it did because of the huge open, which was 150% over CA TWS which held the previous April record. The Paul Walker tribute accounted for most of that.

It did hold the no. 1 spot for 4 consecutive weeks, because there was zero competition in April.

 

[warhorse78]

Avengers fans sure are pissy about the success of Furious 7.

They shouldn't be. Fast 7 was just a much better movie overall. It was just a good movie, and didn't get stuffed with a bunch of babbling nonsense nobody really gives a crap about.

 

[KangConquers]

They shouldn't be. Fast 7 was just a much better movie overall. It was just a good movie, and didn't get stuffed with a bunch of babbling nonsense nobody really gives a crap about.

Do you have anything to do but crap all over this movie in every third post? Some of us quite enjoyed Age of Ultron. I've been back on the boards for about a week, and see you constantly, consistently dogging the movie. We get it, your voice has been heard.

 

[Tony Stark]

They shouldn't be. Fast 7 was just a much better movie overall. It was just a good movie, and didn't get stuffed with a bunch of babbling nonsense nobody really gives a crap about.

I'm a huge fan of the F&F series going all the way back to the first one. But I said when I first saw the film this wasn't as good as FF 5 and 6 it just wasn't, it wasn't even close to being as good. However, they get brownie points because they had to restructure the entire movie around PW's death. What they came up with was a fabulous tribute to the man.

Having said that Jason Statham ended up being the weakest villain in the whole series of films. I think that's why they didn't kill him off at the end. They had to drastically reduce his part becuase of the scheduling conflicts and delays in filming.

The film is a beautiful tribute to a guy that seemed as decent a person in real life as he was in the films, which is so rare in Hollywood. But it wasn't close to being the best FF film. That's got nothing to do with how good anyone though Avengers was. People were making these comments back in the first week of April and no one had seen AoU.

 

[Lord]

Something to consider about this circumstance.
When the american actor Ledger died and 'boosted' TDK's intrigue/reception that was mainly seen in it's domestic performance, which makes sense given he was a 'big' american actor. When it comes to Paul Walker boosting this particular films revenue, just what has he done for it's domestic numbers? It's not doing TDK freak domestic numbers clearly, it's not doing hunger game stuff, I'm not even sure it's doing GOTG numbers..
What's odd is that this american actors death is being attributed to boosting the films foreign numbers? Notice how this didn't really happen with TDK....
I just find that odd and interesting.

Granted alot of this is fails to take into account that TDK did not get a China release(even back then it may have been pretty significant).

Long story short, Pauls death, like ledgers should be reflected in the domestic numbers I think(and I don't really see anything 'that' impressive happening). Explaining china has to take other things into account to a degree. Such as the emerging Car culture over there.

Just because there was a similar situation some years ago, doesn't mean both films could only get the boosts the same way. Paul Walker's death has been known all around the world, he wasn't just popular in the usa, and among young people (aged between 13-21), i would argue that he may have been more popular than Heath Ledger.

 

[Iceman]

Paul Walker died. Sadly, that tends to boost movie's box office. Sad but true.

I'd expect that to have a big impact in US and other countries where Furious has been big for a while but in China I thought they barely knew the guy.

 

[Iceman]

Avengers fans sure are pissy about the success of Furious 7.

Are you talking about me? I'm looking forward to seeing it.

 

[Lord]

Having said that Jason Statham ended up being the weakest villain in the whole series of films. I think that's why they didn't kill him off at the end. They had to drastically reduce his part becuase of the scheduling conflicts and delays in filming.

To be fair, this franchise has never realy had an amazing villain, the best one was by far the Rock in Fast Five, but then allied with the heroes, all the other villains are usualy given a strong introduction, but then become jokes as the movies go on.

 

[Lord]

I'd expect that to have a big impact in US and other countries where Furious has been big for a while but in China I thought they barely knew the guy.

That's the thing about these sorts of things, suddenly, everyone is a fan of the guy.

 

[Marvin]

Furious 7 - $339M and counting
GOTG - $333M

I haven't been keeping up to date. That being said, barely it seems.
I personally wasn't as taken with the low 300 mill as other people seemed to have been. I get that said film was a surprise and it did better than it was initially expected to do but that number in and of itself was blown out of proportion in my eyes. Especially given the competition, or lack there of. I mean a few TF movies and Ironman and all sorts of other things cruise to 300 and it's not really 'that' big a deal. 500 I'd understand, 400 even. Stopping the presses over 300 plus just seemed kinda funky to me. It did then and it does now. Probably didn't hurt that that very year almost nothing else did.
When Sniper did similar I felt the same way but I can see that films circumstance playing an even bigger factor. Like I said, The Huger Games numbers were what I would call leggy and enormous, save for the most recent one, which just did 'well' imo. If F7 hits 400, I'll start to get on board.

Do you have anything to do but crap all over this movie in every third post? Some of us quite enjoyed Age of Ultron. I've been back on the boards for about a week, and see you constantly, consistently dogging the movie. We get it, your voice has been heard.

Fans have to deal with people crapping all over their films in every section it seems. Part of the experience I suppose.

Just because there was a similar situation some years ago, doesn't mean both films could only get the boosts the same way. Paul Walker's death has been known all around the world, he wasn't just popular in the usa, and among young people (aged between 13-21), i would argue that he may have been more popular than Heath Ledger.

Walker wasn't that popular in the state but Ledger was? I suppose you are implying the latter was moreso popular here than the former and that explains why Ledger took TDK to freak numbers here but Walker hasn't.
Because I personally think Walker and his work and his death was far more known stateside, especially to the pivotal demo then Ledger. There is a massively successful music video about it even.

I get how that may explain what's going down overseas to a degree, but I fail to see why it's doing what I consider little domestically. The increase from the last film to this film domestically is almost organic given the momentum and rise of the series and the addition of Statham.

I just find it oddly inverted. But then again TDK didn't really get an China release so maybe...

 

[dalonewolf]

It's still a huge success