The Dark Knight Rises Eckhart on Dent returning: "I could not possibly say."

Haha, Eckart always had a terrible poker face, even back when trying to play coy about whether or not Harvey Dent would become Two-Face in The Dark Knight. I still think it's unlikely (both Eckhart and Nolan have talked about him being very much dead in the past), but it would be nice.
 
I've been saying Two-Face is alive since I first saw The Dark Knight. If that fall at the end of the movie killed him, then that is a poorly written death for such a significant character. And the Nolan brothers are not poor writers...
 
I believe he is dead and wont be in it, but that doesnt mean it wouldn't be awesome. Perhaps a flashback or something?
 
I've been saying Two-Face is alive since I first saw The Dark Knight. If that fall at the end of the movie killed him, then that is a poorly written death for such a significant character. .

If he didn't die, then the entire point of what made batman heoric at the end is null and void. No thanks.
 
I think the chance of him being there has always been possible.
 
As much as I loved Eckharts Two-Face, how on earth would he fit in the story. They're introducing Catwoman and Bane in this one. I don't want Bats to take a backseat to an overload of villains.
 
Contraianism isn't an argument, but I'm happy to hear why you don't think that's the case if you're willing to elaborate.
If I may, what does Dent's survival change about the ending of the film? The fact still remains that Two-Face murdered people. And if the public were to find out that their White Knight was capable of such things, they would lose all faith. Picture that last scene with Harvey in handcuffs. Couldn't Batman and Gordon still have the same discussion, still come to the same conclusion? The goal is to keep Harvey's misdeeds a secret - whether that means he's dead and buried or locked away deep within Arkham.
 
Contraianism isn't an argument, but I'm happy to hear why you don't think that's the case if you're willing to elaborate.

I don't see why it's necessary for him to do so if it isn't necessary for you to. You didn't bolster your point with anything, you just said 'this is this'.

So if he has to elaborate, first it would only be responsible to elaborate yourself. Tell us why he's suddenly not heroic at the end anymore if Two-Face somehow survived.
 
If I may, what does Dent's survival change about the ending of the film? The fact still remains that Two-Face murdered people. And if the public were to find out that their White Knight was capable of such things, they would lose all faith. Picture that last scene with Harvey in handcuffs. Couldn't Batman and Gordon still have the same discussion, still come to the same conclusion? The goal is to keep Harvey's misdeeds a secret - whether that means he's dead and buried or locked away deep within Arkham.

Yep. :up: I like how concisely you put that. Tough to do.
 
THIS is how he will be in it and I've been saying this to myself all along.

SOMEWHERE in the movie a TV will have an advertisement showing Harvey Dent like an informercial. He'll talk about justice and stuff and at the end it'll say something like:

Harvey Dent 1972-2008 In Loving Memory

We believed in Harvey Dent, now we're ready to believe in YOU!
 
I've long ago deduced that Christopher Nolan is an evil genius, and nothing is outside the realm of possibility. That being said, I'm going to try to wait for more than just a coy smile to get my hopes up. (Or maybe not.)
 
Contraianism isn't an argument, but I'm happy to hear why you don't think that's the case if you're willing to elaborate.

Batman's a hero at the end, because he allows the public to believe that he commited all the murders that were in fact committed by Two-Face. Harvey Dent's death has nothing to do with that. If he's alive as Two-Face in the new movie, Gotham still believes Batman is a villain who killed their white knight and several cops and so on.
 
If he didn't die, then the entire point of what made batman heoric at the end is null and void. No thanks.

I wouldn't say null and void. Certainly his efforts were in vain, but it'd be an interesting plot point. Harvey was all Gotham had, at least to the citizens. Losing him would pretty much be the breaking point. Kind of cool to see how Batman functions in a hopeless city corrupt to its core. He finally knows what he has to do, but simply can't. How does he overcome that? How do you save a city that doesn't want saving?
 
I've been saying Two-Face is alive since I first saw The Dark Knight. If that fall at the end of the movie killed him, then that is a poorly written death for such a significant character. And the Nolan brothers are not poor writers...

And they are also not hack writers, who would NOT pull something like this out of their rears.
I would say they probably had to scramble a bit with the death of Ledger, as I would say he probably would have played SOME role in TDKR, but to bring back a character, after showing his death...

HOWEVER, I will say IF he appears in TDKR, it is to somehow exonerate Bats after he took the rap for the crimes TF committed.
 
What do you mean by junket, as in he did all these interviews at once?

He's also trying pretty hard not to smile despite denying he's in it.

AAAAAnd, lets remember he is one heck of an ACTOR, who generally become quite good at CONTROLING and FAKING emotions. If he didn't want to smile there, he wouldn't have...
 
AAAAAnd, lets remember he is one heck of an ACTOR, who generally become quite good at CONTROLING and FAKING emotions. If he didn't want to smile there, he wouldn't have...
So you're telling me, in that moment as he was asked the question, he somehow stopped, thought for a bit, and went, "Yeah, I'll smile because it'll throw all the fans off." You're giving him way too much credit. This was an interview, not a scene. His reactions were genuine - whatever they may imply. (And for all we know, he was just smiling because people still won't stop asking him about Two-Face. He's explicitly told us that Two-Face wasn't going to be in it before, so I imagine it must be quite funny that people keep trying.)
 
And they are also not hack writers, who would NOT pull something like this out of their rears.
I would say they probably had to scramble a bit with the death of Ledger, as I would say he probably would have played SOME role in TDKR, but to bring back a character, after showing his death...

HOWEVER, I will say IF he appears in TDKR, it is to somehow exonerate Bats after he took the rap for the crimes TF committed.

If they had Harvey riddled with bullets and bleeding out his guts, then, sure, it would be hack writing to bring him back. But Two-Face fell from a height alongside Batman; Batman miraculously pops right back up, while Two-Face is stone-cold dead? They left a lot of doors open for themselves. We don't see the fall, we only see a portrait at the funeral, etc. It wouldn't be hackneyed if Gordon has him hidden in Arkham. Harvey's certainly dead, but Two-Face should still be alive.
 
I love how statements he made when the final script wasn't in place are 100000% relevant now that it is finished.

God forbid Chris, Jonah and Goyer are banging out the final draft and come across a story issue and one of them says "Two-face!"

"No guys - sorry. We already told the press he isn't."

I think it speaks volumes that he's changed his answer now that the final draft is done.

Or he's just having fun with corky dorky the reporter since no matter what answer he gives the question won't go away.

- Jow
 

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