Days of Future Past First Class Official Casting Thread

[JP]

Confirmed:

 

[TNC9852002]

Alrighty then.

 

[Matt Mortem]

I'm optimistic. I really like the kid they got for Banshee. He has a good look about him

 

[newwaveboy87]

I liked Rosamund Pike for Emma Frost more than the girl they really cast in the role. Meh. Oh well.

What about young Storm? We're told in X1 that she's one of his older students, I think even one of the first? I'm not sure I haven't viewed the film in a while, and so far there's been very little on that front. I read a Zoe Saldana for young Storm rumor. I like it, could be interesting. But what about Paula Patton or Kerry Washington?

 

[TNC9852002]

Umm, if they cast Storm, they would most likely keep her in the same young age range as Beast. Patton and Washington are in their mid 30's and the Saldana thing is nothing--just fans tossing names around.

 

[newwaveboy87]

Pssh. Lies!

They've already screwed up Jean's age with the intro to X3, and now they're screwing up Xaiver's and Mangeto's. No one's paying attention to age continuity. Lucas Till (cutie!) is Havok and (allegedly, or not) Aaron Johnson is Cyclops. They're the same age.

Again: No one's been paying attention to age continuity in this franchise.

I maintain that Hoult is hot, a talented actor but all wrong for Beast. What happened to Brendan Walker (his name was something close to that)?

 

[TNC9852002]

*sigh*

I don't see where you're seeing a continuity issue with Jean's age...and Walker was never confirmed as Beast.

and what...is up...with people...for some reason....cannot seem to grasp this concept:

Actors age /= Character age

and even if Aaron Johnson was in this movie (and he's not), why does it matter if they are the same age in real life? In the comics they are 4 years apart. It's very easy to take two 20-year olds and portray one as 21 and the other 17.

I mean, isn't Sean Connery only like 9 years older than Harrison Ford and played his father in Crusade?

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

Once we have Cyclops and Jean confirmed, we'll have a pretty solid core cast.

I'm liking the choices.

 

[newwaveboy87]

Plus, Wolverine screwed up the age continuity as well. Xaiver (with the help of super-creepy de-aging SFX) is shown with a teen Cyclops, an older Emma Frost, Toad, Quicksilver, Banshee (who looks to be an older teenager and is here a younger one) and a possible Storm who looks all of twelve.

Why start paying close attention to how old these characters are supposed to be now? The filmmakers obviously haven't done, aren't going to start and are just casting whoever they see fit.

Take Kitty's cameos in the first two films: she looks about seventeen in the first one, then she looks about thirteen, and in her expanded role in X3 she's late teens/early twenties.

Makes perfect sense. But Jubilee stays about the same age throughout

 

[newwaveboy87]

*sigh*

I don't see where you're seeing a continuity issue with Jean's age...and Walker was never confirmed as Beast.

Janssen was either in her forties or close to it when the first X-Men came out. And she looked it. And Singer stated he went with a younger Cyclops and older Jean/Wolverine to create a romantic tension visually. Fine. Whatever.

Young Jean, in the 80s, looks about thirteen. In the present time she's obviously about 40. You don't see the continuity error there?

I know Walker wasn't confirmed, but I liked him for the role. At least he was big and had the look.

and what...is up...with people...for some reason....cannot seem to grasp this concept:

Actors age /= Character age

and even if Aaron Johnson was in this movie (and he's not), why does it matter if they are the same age in real life?

Because they LOOK the same age. They don't have an obvious difference in age when photographed. They both look about 19/20, which is how old they are. And they're playing older/younger brothers.

I know that an actor's age has nothing to do with a character's age. One of my favorite films, Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf, cast Elizabeth Taylor, then in her 30s, to play a woman in her 50s. Taylor though could project an older look about her. I have no doubt that McAvoy is a talented enough, and experienced enough, actor to do that trick. The rest of them are too new, and don't have that kind of experience.

Do you see the problem some of us are having now?

I mean, isn't Sean Connery only like 9 years older than Harrison Ford and played his father in Crusade?

Sean Connery is 79 and Harrison Ford is 67. That's way more than nine years difference. That's close to 20.

A better example of "Aren't they too young to play their dad?" would have been Jeffrey Dean Morgan as papa Winchester in Supernatural. He's only about ten, or less, years older, but he reads older on camera.

And that's part of the issue. Some of these kiddos film as really young.

 

[TNC9852002]

Plus, Wolverine screwed up the age continuity as well. Xaiver (with the help of super-creepy de-aging SFX) is shown with a teen Cyclops, an older Emma Frost, Toad, Quicksilver, Banshee (who looks to be an older teenager and is here a younger one) and a possible Storm who looks all of twelve.

I'm still not following you. Cyclops and the rest looked to be around the same age (remember, Cyclops isn't even cast yet in this movie). And Storm in Africa--if you're referring to that scene in the village, that was from a scene that occurred many years before Cyclops shows up. I don't remember how young she was supposed to be (I haven't seen the entire deleted scene).

Why start paying close attention to how old these characters are supposed to be now? The filmmakers obviously haven't done, aren't going to start and are just casting whoever they see fit.

Take Kitty's cameos in the first two films: she looks about seventeen in the first one, then she looks about thirteen, and in her expanded role in X3 she's late teens/early twenties.

The first two movies are a very bad example. Not only were those two appearances just brief cameos, but those two actresses were still the same age (it's still very hard to compare with the actress from X2 since we barely could make out her face at all--in conclusion, taking away with her estimated character age becomes more subjective). In all three movies (remember, they all occur around the same time), she's supposed to be the same age as the rest of the kids. Either way, the age difference continuity for this example is not significant.

Makes perfect sense. But Jubilee stays about the same age throughout

Yep.

 

[TNC9852002]

J
Sean Connery is 79 and Harrison Ford is 67. That's way more than nine years difference. That's close to 20.

This stuck out to me--someone obviously missed a few math classes..

My initial GUESS of 9 years apart is actually way closer to the actual 12 years than it is to your "close to 20".

Basically, my point still stands.

 

[TNC9852002]

Janssen was either in her forties or close to it when the first X-Men came out. And she looked it. And Singer stated he went with a younger Cyclops and older Jean/Wolverine to create a romantic tension visually. Fine. Whatever.

Young Jean, in the 80s, looks about thirteen. In the present time she's obviously about 40. You don't see the continuity error there?

Ok, I'm pretty much done here--your level of subjectivity and continuity issues are off the charts..

Here's how I see it:

2005-All X-Men movies--Assume Jean is 36

1985-Xavier meets Jean--Assume Jean is 16

Yeah, ok, maybe Jean doesn't look 16--how about 14?

Well, Famke was 34 when she did X-Men 1 and she looked her age, right?

If we average and assume that Jean was 15 in that flashback, where does the continuity error come in? Remember, the movies all take place in a time frame of a few months or so. Even though everyone obviously looks older in X3, we fortunately can throw those things out the window.

 

[BMM]

TNC beat me to it all.

 

[newwaveboy87]

Ok, I'm pretty much done here--your level of subjectivity and continuity issues are off the charts..

Here's how I see it:

2005-All X-Men movies--Assume Jean is 36

1985-Xavier meets Jean--Assume Jean is 16

Yeah, ok, maybe Jean doesn't look 16--how about 14?

Well, Famke was 34 when she did X-Men 1 and she looked her age, right?

If we average and assume that Jean was 15 in that flashback, where does the continuity error come in? Remember, the movies all take place in a time frame of a few months or so. Even though everyone obviously looks older in X3, we fortunately can throw those things out the window.

My oh my, aren't we being generous with "assume Jean is 36." She's 45 nowadays, which makes her 40 when that film was filmed and came out. And while Famke is pretty, she also has always looked older than whatever age she is. So, we've had a Jean that always looked like she was 36 - 40. The girl that they cast to play a young Jean looked about 12/13.

So she went from 12 to 40 in twenty years. You don't see it?

This stuck out to me--someone obviously missed a few math classes..

My initial GUESS of 9 years apart is actually way closer to the actual 12 years than it is to your "close to 20".

Basically, my point still stands.

I admit it -- I did sleep through math quite often. English, history, art, etc. were always my strong courses. Math and science? Not so much.

I did mean to edit it to say closer to fifteen, but I got distracted by The Sound and the Fury.

I'm still not following you. Cyclops and the rest looked to be around the same age (remember, Cyclops isn't even cast yet in this movie). And Storm in Africa--if you're referring to that scene in the village, that was from a scene that occurred many years before Cyclops shows up. I don't remember how young she was supposed to be (I haven't seen the entire deleted scene).

Stryker's lair. There's a young black girl who's eyes go white and controls the weather locked in a cell. She looks to be about ten.

Storm in the deleted scene, visible in the trailers, looks to be about seven. I have no real idea if they were meant to be the same character, but if you throw a mutant who is obviously doing something weather related and make her eyes go white in a scene, a fan is going to assume Storm.

I have only seen the film once (and that was one time too many), so if my details are ever so slightly off I apologize. So, we have a ten-year-old Storm, a teenage Cyclops, a twenty-something Emma Frost (she even said her name in an internet ad for the film ), Stewart digitally redone to look like a younger Xaiver (he just looked like he was a botched face lift).

Age continuity has not been this franchise's friend. I know that I'm not alone in spotting this stuff. It's not always what an actor's age is that's the problem, is how old they can project themselves as being and what has come before them in the franchise. (The less said about the massive headache I got from Natalie Portman remaining as Padme but Anakin getting magically a decade older the better, for example.)

The first two movies are a very bad example. Not only were those two appearances just brief cameos, but those two actresses were still the same age (it's still very hard to compare with the actress from X2 since we barely could make out her face at all--in conclusion, taking away with her estimated character age becomes more subjective). In all three movies (remember, they all occur around the same time), she's supposed to be the same age as the rest of the kids. Either way, the age difference continuity for this example is not significant.

Yes, but Ellen Page looked age appropriate. The first girl, who you get a good look at, looks age appropriate. The second girl, who you also get a good look at, looks about four to five years younger. I don't see how that is not significant. Granted, she's a cameo in the first and a glorified one in the third, but these things are noticeable. Youngish, hunky Beast cameo in X2 and now all-blue Beast in X3 is a bit of an obsessive fan-only thing. No one really paid much attention to "Dr. Hank McCoy" and "Sebastian Shaw" on the television screens outside of fans. I remember family members asking me why Shadowcat was a different girl each time.

Also -- Colossus and Pyro get advanced in years between their brief cameos in X1 and their roles in X2 and X3. Colossus I can look past since you really have to strain yourself to spot him. Pyro, that one's just odd.

 

[Electrix]

At the end of the day all the really matters is if the actor/actress looks and acts the part well. The general audience won't be getting out their calculators to work out how age appropriate a certain actor is.

I can't wait until they release the first official stills so people can analyze the hairstyles in great detail instead.

 

[the a1ant]

The boy who played Pyro in X1 didn't look far off from the age Pyro was in X2/X3. He's supposed to be the same age as Rogue and Bobby, and was in all three films.

 

[Spider-Fan83]

so, when are we going to start hearing about the rest of the female characters... it seems like we've only been hearing about guys lately.... I havn't even really heard any rumors at all about, Jean or storm.... yet we already have about a half-a-dozen guys cast...

 

[the a1ant]

I would not be shocked if they saved Storm for a possible sequel. There has been zero talk about her appearing. I'd prefer her in this film, so there would be more diversity among the cast.

 

[X-Maniac]

My oh my, aren't we being generous with "assume Jean is 36." She's 45 nowadays, which makes her 40 when that film was filmed and came out. And while Famke is pretty, she also has always looked older than whatever age she is. So, we've had a Jean that always looked like she was 36 - 40. The girl that they cast to play a young Jean looked about 12/13.

So she went from 12 to 40 in twenty years. You don't see it?

I admit it -- I did sleep through math quite often. English, history, art, etc. were always my strong courses. Math and science? Not so much.

I did mean to edit it to say closer to fifteen, but I got distracted by The Sound and the Fury.

Stryker's lair. There's a young black girl who's eyes go white and controls the weather locked in a cell. She looks to be about ten.

Storm in the deleted scene, visible in the trailers, looks to be about seven. I have no real idea if they were meant to be the same character, but if you throw a mutant who is obviously doing something weather related and make her eyes go white in a scene, a fan is going to assume Storm.

I have only seen the film once (and that was one time too many), so if my details are ever so slightly off I apologize. So, we have a ten-year-old Storm, a teenage Cyclops, a twenty-something Emma Frost (she even said her name in an internet ad for the film ), Stewart digitally redone to look like a younger Xaiver (he just looked like he was a botched face lift).

Age continuity has not been this franchise's friend. I know that I'm not alone in spotting this stuff. It's not always what an actor's age is that's the problem, is how old they can project themselves as being and what has come before them in the franchise. (The less said about the massive headache I got from Natalie Portman remaining as Padme but Anakin getting magically a decade older the better, for example.)

Yes, but Ellen Page looked age appropriate. The first girl, who you get a good look at, looks age appropriate. The second girl, who you also get a good look at, looks about four to five years younger. I don't see how that is not significant. Granted, she's a cameo in the first and a glorified one in the third, but these things are noticeable. Youngish, hunky Beast cameo in X2 and now all-blue Beast in X3 is a bit of an obsessive fan-only thing. No one really paid much attention to "Dr. Hank McCoy" and "Sebastian Shaw" on the television screens outside of fans. I remember family members asking me why Shadowcat was a different girl each time.

Also -- Colossus and Pyro get advanced in years between their brief cameos in X1 and their roles in X2 and X3. Colossus I can look past since you really have to strain yourself to spot him. Pyro, that one's just odd.

This is all OCD gone crazy.

And full of assumptions, many of them wildly off course.

Jean was not supposed to be 40 or more in X3. No way.

If you can overlook the X2 Beast / X3 Beast thing as 'obsessive fan-only' (your words), then the same can be applied to your other issues.

Frankly, we can dismiss almost all of your concerns as obsessional, to be honest.

I do agree Beast seemed (notice I say 'seemed', as we don't know for sure) older than the other X-Men (though his appearance, voice and spectacles make him seem like the older/wiser type), and I do think Nicolas Hoult is a little too thin for the role, but we're basing this on how the actor looks not on how he will appear in character in the film.

 

[TNC9852002]

This is all OCD gone crazy.

And full of assumptions, many of them wildly off course.

Jean was not supposed to be 40 or more in X3. No way.

If you can overlook the X2 Beast / X3 Beast thing as 'obsessive fan-only' (your words), then the same can be applied to your other issues.

Frankly, we can dismiss almost all of your concerns as obsessional, to be honest..[/QUOTE]
See, X-Maniac--you always catch on.

 

[TNC9852002]

I would not be shocked if they saved Storm for a possible sequel. There has been zero talk about her appearing. I'd prefer her in this film, so there would be more diversity among the cast.

Well, there was zero talk about many of the now confirmed characters in the movie before they suddenly popped up.

I can't say for sure that Storm will appear--but I think the possibility is definitely still there.

 

[JP]

In terms of what Newwave is saying, yes.. X3 really ****ed up age continuity. Jean is no more that 10-12 in the beginning of X3. 20 years earlier Famke Jannssen was in her 20's

And Angel was alos no more than 10.. and 10 years earlier Ben Foster was a teenager in Flash Forward.

 

[X-Maniac]

In terms of what Newwave is saying, yes.. X3 really ****ed up age continuity. Jean is no more that 10-12 in the beginning of X3. 20 years earlier Famke Jannssen was in her 20's

Uh what?

I'll check if Jean's age at the start of X3 is in the novelisation but if we assume your age of 10 to 12 (the actress was 13 when it was filmed in 2005), then add 20 years to make her aged 30 or 32 in the present day, then a few years for the film's main setting of 'not too distant future'...if we say 3 yrs, that makes her 33 or 35, if we say 5 yrs it makes her 35 or 37.

I can't see anything wrong there.

 

[TNC9852002]

Yeah, the actress playing Jean was 13 and she looked 13 IMO.

Like I said before, according to X3, the flashback took place around 1985/86, which means that throughout the X-Men films that took place (which spanned maybe only 3-4 months in time), Jean is supposed to be 33/34--which was Famke's original age at the start of X-Men. Sure, older people have tried to "look" younger or maintain their age from time to time, especially across a movie trilogy which does not align itself with real time. So, it's hard to wiggle around this.

Either way, the "continuity" thing--it's not perfect across the films so far, but for the most part, it still works. The thing is, it's all now up to FC to try and work around it or with it, depending on the story elements..