Green Arrow series in the works at The CW - Part 1

[EliteF50]

That's the thing though, I'm impressed with the movie-like quality. This show looks really well made with very high production values. That alone is worth the watch, imo. I'm OK with them making Ollie darker, but they should still keep his playfulness.

 

[sethypants]

I do want to point out certain people's reservation on GA being too much like batman. From what I assumed, they're saying the tone is alot like Nolan's batman meaning its going to be completely realistic.
So I dun see it as making him batman lite but putting him in a universe that is like batman begins and bourne identity.
Also havent GA been shown as a brooding, dark and edgy hero ever since mike grell era's stuff where he was published in vertigo and have a black canary that doesnt have canary cry.
I think this is a good direction for the show because ollie isnt suited to be in a universe with over powered meta and flying amazons.

 

[sethypants]

Yeah, the new president at CW is doing good things. Smallville was ruined because Dawn Ostroff wanted everything to be a derivative of 90210 and Gossip Girl. From what we've seen so far, the only thing I'm not liking is they're trying to hard to make him Batman, instead of their own thing.

Also yeah I do think Mark Pedowitz is doing great things at cw. Firstly he scored the netflix, hulu deal that'll bring billions to cw, then he majorly revamped all the different types of programs. Theres a show for everyone, fashionista, genre shows, comic book nerds, regular female teens, male teens and etc.
Even Arrow is designed for a wide appeal to more than just regular comic book readers.
I think all the pick ups are great to attract each different crowd it seeks to attract. Arrow definitely got the most buzz amongst them all.

 

[Webhead2006]

Rock I get your idea with lower mask and that has some good points he could imploy for gas needed times or say a breathing thing if he dove into water for a water getaway. But just daily hero work would just be odd for a lower mask. Where as a goggle like thing as I pointed back a page with swimmer/safety goggles can seve as a hiding identy and be pratical use and could use night vision/etc...

 

[The Englishman]

Ive never really been into Green Arrow but that trailer has got me interested in this show. What sort of Rogues Gallery has he got and are we likely to see any of them in this series?

 

[HighFivingMF]

Ive never really been into Green Arrow but that trailer has got me interested in this show. What sort of Rogues Gallery has he got and are we likely to see any of them in this series?

One of his villains is an assassin who is also an archer named Merlyn. His buddy's name is Tommy Merlyn, so it's likely a reimagining. Apparently Constantine Drakon is in the pilot, he's an assassin and master of martial arts.

He's also got Brick, a rock-skinned crime lord. Count Vertigo, who has the ability to throw people off balance. Onomatopoeia, he only speaks in sounds ("Click." "Boom.") and kills vigilantes. He's fought Deathstroke from time to time.

You can read more about them here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Green_Arrow_enemies

 

[Rockstar]

That's the thing though, I'm impressed with the movie-like quality. This show looks really well made with very high production values. That alone is worth the watch, imo. I'm OK with them making Ollie darker, but they should still keep his playfulness.

Considering he's been isolated on an island for 5 years, his dark, brooding, killing machine personality makes sense.

Honestly, I hope they keep this. It gives some needed credibility to his character. I really appreciate that they're trying to keep this very close to the tone of Batman. My only reservation is whether these producers and writers are actually talented enough to pull it off.

The approach is spot-on. The execution is still up for debate, depending on the final product.

The 'playfulness' stuff would just be too easy for a CW show. I think that aspect of his personality is going to be very much part of his past life before the island, based on the spoilers leaked.

 

[Daniel Thompson]

One of his villains is an assassin who is also an archer named Merlyn. His buddy's name is Tommy Merlyn, so it's likely a reimagining. Apparently Constantine Drakon is in the pilot, he's an assassin and master of martial arts.

He's also got Brick, a rock-skinned crime lord. Count Vertigo, who has the ability to throw people off balance. Onomatopoeia, he only speaks in sounds ("Click." "Boom.") and kills vigilantes. He's fought Deathstroke from time to time.

You can read more about them here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Green_Arrow_enemies

Wonder what talented actor they will get to play him. By the description of the villian he seems like he might be my favorite villian in the show.

 

[vantheman77]

I'm glad they will have Merlyn on this show as I wished they did the same thing with the Smallville version instead of having Dark Archer.

 

[Webhead2006]

Ya as stated a lot of ga villains are ninja/fighter type guys, we got count vertigo who be doable guy and I hope to see. So we likely I hope would see some of those top know villains of ga. Then just petty criminals, corrupt cops/politicans/corp guys. That would get boring after awhile if it was just that.

Then maybe they could toss in some black canary/bbirds of prey villains. More so if dinah ever becomes black canary. Then like sv did maybe bring in a few generalize villains like roulette, deathstroke and ones like them.

Well in sv case and probably with this show too if they bring in non ga family of characters would have to deal with rights issues/work with dc and wb. Just like sv had to and altered characters like sv merlyn take or dean cain vandal savage like character.

 

[protocida]

Arthur "Merlyn" King is an former member of the League of Assassins and a mercenary with a rivalry with Green Arrow reguarding who is the better archer.

Count Werner Vertigo is an Eastern European nobleman who had a device implanted in his inner ear to cure a genetic defect. The device allowed him to manipulate others' perception. He eventually joined Amanda Waller's Suicide Squad.

Constantine Drakon is a Greek mercenary and professional assassin with heightned reflexes, believed to be Metahuman.

Daniel "Brick" Brickwell is a brick-skinned crime lord.

Onomatopeia is a professional assassin specialized in eliminating superheroes, who only speaks through sound effects.

Doctor Light is a scientist who stole an uniform that allowed him to manipulate light. A psychopatic rapist, he was eventually killed by the Spectre.

Deathstroke is the world's greatest mercenary, created in a failed Supersoldier Program developed by the United States government during the Vietnam War.

Cupid is a vigilante obssesed with Green Arrow.

Steelclaw is a mysterious drug dealer and crime lord, secretly the Mayor of Star City Thomas Bolt.

Prometheus is a criminal mastermind who downloads information and talents directly into his brain and nervous system with an advanced helmet.

 

[Rockstar]

I want to see this storyline adapted at some point:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Arrow:_The_Longbow_Hunters


The potential for great villains in this series is huge. They can pretty much go crime procedural like Criminal Minds, SVU, CSI etc and have murderers, serial killers, terrorists, rapists, crime lords, gangsters, drug traffikers, etc as villains for The Arrow to fight.

They can easily play up the detective angle too. They just have to make certain to keep these villains believable.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

I think they'll stick to his hit list for the first year. Along with his rogues I hope they introduce Roy Harper and Mia Dearden.

 

[Karelia]

That's why I think The Question would be an awesome fit for this show. IF they decide to put some DC cameo's in it.

 

[gohei_]

I think they'll stick to his hit list for the first year. Along with his rogues I hope they introduce Roy Harper and Mia Dearden.

They better bring back the actress from SMallville then

By the way, was Ollie ever part of the LEague of Assassins too? Or was that just something that Smallville changed? Or am I remembering wrong?

 

[Rockstar]

I really don't want to see The Arrow having sidekicks. He's way too young and early into his career.

It would also take away too much from his character. I'd rather they keep him as a solo 'vigilante' like Nolan's Batman.


The sidekicks could potentially be the 'jump the shark' moment for the series. I don't think they'll go that route on a show with this approach, for the same reasons that Nolan isn't doing Robin.

That's why I think The Question would be an awesome fit for this show. IF they decide to put some DC cameo's in it.

Honestly, many of us mentioned The Question months ago as a perfect fit for this series.


That being said, I don't care for 'cameos' unless there's a logical reason for that character being there and it's building towards future appearances.

 

[protocida]

The Riddler was one of Green Arrow's enemies when he was a goth Joker.

Solomon Grundy was also a recurring foe from times to times.

One of my favorites is the Duke of Oil, a robot that is also a rich texan oil baron.

International drug dealer China White.

Revengeful Chief of Security Will Hackett.

 

[Manic]

I really don't want to see The Arrow having sidekicks. He's way too young and early into his career.

It would also take away too much from his character. I'd rather they keep him as a solo 'vigilante' like Nolan's Batman.


The sidekicks could potentially be the 'jump the shark' moment for the series. I don't think they'll go that route on a show with this approach.

It could work if they make Roy or Mia closer to Ollie's age. They'd be more "partner" than "sidekick." They'd just have to change their origins so Ollie isn't adopting fully grown adults like in Batman Forever.

 

[Rockstar]

It could work if they make Roy or Mia closer to Ollie's age. They'd be more "partner" than "sidekick." They'd just have to change their origins so Ollie isn't adopting fully grown adults like in Batman Forever.

They were 'partners' in Batman Forever, and Batman and Robin too..


Honestly, I don't want Arrow turning into this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Btmir6tuOQM#t=231s


The partner thing just opens up a can of worms.

The idea of The Arrow as a mysterious solo force, like Jason Bourne, is really appealling.

I'm actually hoping the only other person who knows Oliver's secret identity is John (the bodyguard) and they keep it that way.

 

[Still Wynning]

That's why I think The Question would be an awesome fit for this show. IF they decide to put some DC cameo's in it.

Man, if they did introduce The Question in this series, possibly through small appearances, I hope they do a spinoff and give him his own TV show. He was was one of my favorite characters in JLU.

 

[solidsnake86]

I think they need to lay off any sidekicks or other heroes for the first season at a minimum. Smallville started to bring in other heroes because they basically jumped the shark after season 4.

The best thing about GA's villains is that they are great for reinterpretation because fans wont care that much if they change certain aspects. Too bad they probably wont be allowed to use any batman villains, but it would be neat to see some c-listers like the great white shark.

I'm curious to see if they will still use the Colleen Atwood to design costumes for the villains.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

I really don't want to see The Arrow having sidekicks. He's way too young and early into his career.

It would also take away too much from his character. I'd rather they keep him as a solo 'vigilante' like Nolan's Batman.

I would only want them if, firstly, the show is good, and secondly, the writers can handle the characters, and thirdly if it goes on for long enough.

They seem to have a plan for the first year, so they should obviously do that first. Then maybe bring in his wider rogues, maybe Dinah dons the fishnets, and Arsenal can join later, he could lose his fortune and obviously Merlyn has to go bad.

The show has a lot more potential than organised crime and a familial vendetta.

 

[Daniel Thompson]

I think Green Arrow should remain a solo hero for the entire series.

 

[Webhead2006]

Well even if they did just do the hit list non ga villains. Maybe we can see a few others like dakkon get hired to come in and take on arrow. And the steelclaw guy would sound like a great plot they can devlve into too at some point. But as for all the villains listed above I do hope we will see them besides maybe dr. Light and the one with the helmet powers if they are doing no metas at all. If they include metas in time then they too.

As for his sidekicks I agree we shouldn't see then too soon. At most have dinah become canary at end of season/start of season two. Then maybe roy or mia(aged up) to around ollie age in like a 3rd season. And they could possible get into roy drug problem, or mia prostute backgrounds within there appearances.

 

[Rockstar]

The show has a lot more potential than organised crime and a familial vendetta.

The potential for sidekicks and Dinah in fishnets?


OT: Wouldn't be surprised if Walter Steele (Oliver's mother's new husband) is one of the men on Robert Queen's hitlist that the Arrow must kill.