Henry Cavill IS Superman: - Part 10

[Caboose]

There are pictures of Brandon Routh next to The Rock, who is 6'5", and they look the same height.

Lol. Rock is 6'3, Routh looked very noticeably shorter than Zachary Levi on Chuck, who is 6'4.

 

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[Sun_Down]

I'm fully convinced that no actor, regardless of how big/cut he is, will ever be good enough for some people. We've all seen the shirtless pics. Cavill looks great. He looks great in the suit. What else is there?

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

??? What do you think bodybuilding is, if not a strict lifting regimen with a specialized diet? I hate to break to people, but what actors do to get in shape for movies like these is bodybuilding. They train to gain muscle for aesthetic reasons. Because of scheduling, the sort of training they employ is intended to pack on as much muscle as possible as quickly as possible. Reeve's trainer, Darth Vader himself was a bodybuilder and put Reeve on a bodybuilding program. There is nothing wrong with using Arnold as a measuring stick. There are clear records on his height, weight and other measurements, which can be used to comparatively assess the weight of others.

Sorry to break it to you but just lifting weights is not bodybuilding the same way that power lifting or crossfit IS NOT bodybuilding. They are done with different techniques for different purposes. A power lifter has a much different physique from a bodybuilder or "crossfitter".

You should look more into what I'm saying and you'll see what I'm talking about.

 

[DKDetective]

Sorry to break it to you but just lifting weights is not bodybuilding the same way that power lifting or crossfit IS NOT bodybuilding. They are done with different techniques for different purposes. A power lifter has a much different physique from a bodybuilder or "crossfitter".

You should look more into what I'm saying and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Actually, I know tons about bodybuilding, powerlifting, etc. I've followed and read about bodybuilding and other aspects of strength training since 2005 when Bale's physique in Begins inspired me to get in shape. I know all about the differences between training for CNS-related pure strength gains, hypertrophy, and training for muscular endurance.

Yes, true bodybuilding as a sport involves bulking in the offseason and dieting and dropping water in preparation for competition and so what guys like Reeve and Cavill did was not in a technical sense bodybuilding. However, the whole point of their programs was hypertrophy, to gain muscle, which is bodybuilding - resistance training for the purpose of gaining size.

Moreover, bodybuilding training is not as uniform as you are seeming to imply. There are/were top bodybuilders like Ronnie Coleman who trained more similarly to power lifters. Many bodybuilding commentators have suggested that the reason why people like Schwarzenegger and Coleman dominated so absolutely was because they were also powerlifters and the heavier, lower rep training used by powerlifting athletes gave them a harder, denser look.

What I'm saying is that you were oversimplifying things by implying that Reeve, Routh or Cavill were not engaged in bodybuilding. Reeve, most particularly was. For god's sake, he was trained by David Prowse to gain muscle. You really think that his bodybuilder trainer was having him use a beginner/intermediate bodybuilding program? Yes, Gym Jones, probably incorporated a functional strength component into Cavill's program, since that is what they are famous for, but given the time limitations inherent in getting Cavill in shape after Cold Light of Day, the main goal of the program must certainly have been hypertrophy and, thus, bodybuilding.

 

[Anita18]

Sorry to break it to you but just lifting weights is not bodybuilding the same way that power lifting or crossfit IS NOT bodybuilding. They are done with different techniques for different purposes. A power lifter has a much different physique from a bodybuilder or "crossfitter".

You should look more into what I'm saying and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Aren't bodybuilders actually pretty weak when it's competition season? They've bulked up all the muscle they can and then they starve themselves short-term to get rid of the fat on their muscles.

Sure, the muscles on actors doing bulked-up roles are for aesthetics too, but they still have to be strong enough to shoot all day.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Aren't bodybuilders actually pretty weak when it's competition season? They've bulked up all the muscle they can and then they starve themselves short-term to get rid of the fat on their muscles.

Sure, the muscles on actors doing bulked-up roles are for aesthetics too, but they still have to be strong enough to shoot all day.

Yes when bodybuilders cut for competitions they cut down their diets drastically to lose any bodyfat and get that ripped physique. They still lift before and during competition but not for strength.

 

[DKDetective]

Aren't bodybuilders actually pretty weak when it's competition season? They've bulked up all the muscle they can and then they starve themselves short-term to get rid of the fat on their muscles.

Sure, the muscles on actors doing bulked-up roles are for aesthetics too, but they still have to be strong enough to shoot all day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXZZhvFPhVU

Not this guy. Greatest bodybuilder of all-time, deadlifting 800lbs just a couple of weeks pre-contest.

Generally, you are right, bodybuilders become a lot weaker pre-contest because of water depletion and dieting. However, that does not mean that offseason bodybuilding training is of no use to actors preparing for roles. Given their tight deadlines, it is probably the most useful type of training for them since they need to focus on aesthetic size above everything else. It just needs to be a clean bulk so that they don't gain unwanted bodyfat. Functional or athletic strength programs focus on developing CNS strength as well as different type of hypertrophy, which does not cause as much size growth. It takes a lot longer to have major aesthetic effects.

 

[elgaz]

There are pictures of Brandon Routh next to The Rock, who is 6'5", and they look the same height.

The Rock isn't 6"5, he's about 6"3. Like most ex wrestlers his height is exaggerated. They used to claim Hulk Hogan was 6"10.

Christian Bale is 6ft dead, his height has been quoted often. There's no way Routh is 4-5 inches bigger here. A couple of inches at most.

 

[Bruce Malone]

Yeah the rock is not 6'5". That's WWE height, i think he admitted to being 6'3".

 

[sf2]

I'm fully convinced that no actor, regardless of how big/cut he is, will ever be good enough for some people. We've all seen the shirtless pics. Cavill looks great. He looks great in the suit. What else is there?

That cosplayer... josh... or mike o... forgotten the name. R they big enough ? They r not actor though.

 

[Coca Cola Duracell Franklin.]

I always feel bad for Routh whenever I see him on small tv sitcom roles or crappy low budget movies. Kid got to play Superman and now his career is lost ( though he was great in Scott Pilgrim) I wonder how he feels about Cavill being cast.

He didn't have much to say, just that he understands how Hollywood makes changes for whatever reasons and he doesn't take it personally.

 

[sf2]

He didn't have much to say, just that he understands how Hollywood makes changes for whatever reasons and he doesn't take it personally.

High eq. They shall really give him some jobs. Comedy or romance shall be fit.

 

[Rust]

I'm fully convinced that no actor, regardless of how big/cut he is, will ever be good enough for some people. We've all seen the shirtless pics. Cavill looks great. He looks great in the suit. What else is there?

Exactly. Petty peasant people.

 

[Project862006]

talking about physique wise jared padalecki would of been one damn imposing superman i always wondered why he was never shortlisted he has a very boy scout personality on supernatural and a decent actor

dude is a legit 6'4 he looks gigantic anytime i see him

Spoiler

 

[Rust]

I could've lived with Padalecki appearance-wise. Just not too sure about his acting when it counts.

But why are we talking about this in the Cavill-thread when he has been cast?

 

[jaymes_e06]

His face isn't square jawed enough for me to take him seriously as Clark or Sups.

 

[747]

Size and looks discussions about actors in comic book adaptations always make me sigh.

 

[Sun_Down]

That cosplayer... josh... or mike o... forgotten the name. R they big enough ? They r not actor though.

I literally have no idea what this is supposed to mean.

 

[Caboose]

I think he means Mike O'Hearn, who played Superman in that fan film.

In which case yes, he is most certainly big enough, being ex-Mister Universe and all.

Anyway, he looked pretty goofy as Superman.

 

[747]

Comic books are comic books, live action movies are live action movies.

Sorry folks, but Superman on movie will never physically look as let's say Jim Lee's comic book Superman.

 

[sf2]

I think he means Mike O'Hearn, who played Superman in that fan film.

In which case yes, he is most certainly big enough, being ex-Mister Universe and all.

N him josh boutinghouse

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Lol. Rock is 6'3, Routh looked very noticeably shorter than Zachary Levi on Chuck, who is 6'4.

What??

 

[Bruce Malone]

Speaking of routh and chuck this was brandon's physique on chuck. Do you think with a cavil like workout he had for MOS, he'd probably be a good deal bigger than cavil?

 

[flickchick85]

What??

While I don't agree with Caboose that Routh was noticeably shorter than Levi on Chuck, you can't trust official pics from the show, as they always made Chuck look shorter than pretty much all the other guys on the show (part of that "underdog" image). In real life, he's actually taller than Ryan McPartlin (the other guy in that pic). I'm guessing McPartlin and Routh are wearing lifts in their shoes in this pic to sell the illusion.

Here's a behind-the-scenes pic:

Chuck must've had one of the tallest regular casts on TV. Even their shortest female regular (Sarah Lancaster) was 5'8".