Henry Cavill IS Superman: - Part 4

[Project862006]

i think people were hesitant with routh seeing how he had little experience with tv show appearances here and there when cast while everyone here knows henry and henry has 10 years of acting experience.

 

[Stephen K. Hone]

I don't remember reading or hearing anything that suggested Legendary would be discussing or showing off anything from Superman.

Do you have a link?

In one of the press releases about the schedule,it mentions MOS iirc. Here you go. Read near the bottom. It doesn't specifcally say they'll show anything but certainly they will be asked questions.

23RD of July:

5:00-6:00 Costume Designers & Costume Illustrators— Meet the men and women who are the costume designers and costume illustrators on this year's blockbuster films. Moderator Susan Nininger (member of Costume Designers Guild, Local 892; costume designer, The Bodyguard) talks to panelists and costume designers Julie Weiss (Twelve Monkeys, The Ring), Joseph Porro (Stargate, Ultra Violet), Wendy Chuck (Don't Be Afraid of the Dark, Twilight), and costume illustrators Christian Cordella (G.I. Joe 2: Cobra Strikes, Captain America: The First Avenger), Constantine Sekeres (G.I. Joe 2: Cobra Strikes, Superman: Man of Steel, Thor, Green Lantern), Phillip Boutte (Superman: Man of Steel, Twilight Saga), and Brian Valenzuela (Super 8, Mission Impossible 4). Room 23ABC


22ND of July:

12:45-1:45 Legendary Pictures: Preproduction Preview— Legendary Pictures holds its first-ever Comic-Con panel and shares an early look at some of the movies on the company's upcoming film slate. Fans will be able to access Legendary's plans, garner sneak peeks at their movies in preproduction, and hear from filmmakers and cast members from the upcoming Pacific Rim, Seventh Son, Paradise Lost, and Mass Effect. Panel participants include Jeff Bridges, Bradley Cooper, Guillermo del Toro, Ben Barnes, Charlie Hunnam, Idris Elba, Alicia Vikander, Alex Proyas, Sergei Bodrov, Travis Beacham, Mark Protosevich, and Casey Hudson. Room 6BCF

 

[merced]

You're rewriting history, he wasn't controversial from the start, when he was cast there was no issue. It was later on with the shots of the suit and plotline where here became a target.

I was there at the time. There was controversy over Routh from the start. There has been nothing like that with Cavill.

Cavill has been more generally accepted than Routh.

For several reasons - I didn't list them in my previous post but here are two.

Cavill has far more acting experience than Routh did at the same point. Plus Routh had been "let go" from his biggest acting gig to that point.

Routh was seen by many as too young looking. He was derisively called Superboy by some. Cavill looks every bit his 28 years - indeed IMO he looks older than his actual age.

These two things have not been issues at all since Cavill was announced as the new Supes. They were issues from the get go with Routh.

I stand by my previous assertion that Cavill has been more generally accepted so far as Superman than was Routh at the same point.

As to controversy - I recall the photos of Routh at Horn's XMAS party in 2004 and how at some sites they were the butt of jokes.

To say that Routh was universally accepted until that lame shot of him in the suit is to deny what went on from late 2004 when he was first announced as the new Supes.

Go back to the Blue Tights archivs if they still exist or to the SHH archives. His was a controversial casting.

 

[Stephen K. Hone]

You are reading things into what I said. A little rewriting going on?!

I said Cavill has been more generally accepted than Routh.

For several reasons - I didn't list them in my previous post but here are two.

Cavill has far more acting experience than Routh did at the same point. Plus Routh had been "let go" from his biggest acting gig to that point.

Routh was seen by many as too young looking. He was derisively called Superboy by some. Cavill looks every bit his 28 years - indeed IMO he looks older than his actual age.

These two things have not been issues at all since Cavill was announced as the new Supes. They were issues from the get go with Routh.

I stand by my previous assertion that Cavill has been more generally accepted so far as Superman than was Routh at the same point.

There was a photograph from SR that shows Superman outside the Daily Planet standing next to Perry White. It might have been after he had caught the globe. I remember at the time, thinking how terrible the costume looked in that particular picture. He looked like Superboy, and not imposing looking at all. Some of it was down to the cape attachment that had the cape pulled way back off his shoulders. It just didn't look right imo. and it just served to highlight even more how insipid the \S/ was on his chest. Hopefully Snyder gets the cape attachment right.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Eh, I don't remember the vast majority of people having a problem with Routh. Because he hadn't been in anything ofcourse some people were only cautiously optimistic but thats about it. I remember alot of posititivity. I wasn't in love with the project but I thought that Routh would be fine in the role. After seeing the film I didn't like him because I felt that he was an unusually weak actor. Still feel that way. Not saying that I've seen Cavill be great in the things I've watched him in or anything.

I'm not looking for the greatest actor in the world to play the role but being a better actor that Routh would mean the world to me. Hopefully Cavill is at least 30% better in the actual acting department and is given the chance to give a non-Reeve dependent performance.

 

[sf2]

I was there at the time. There was controversy over Routh from the start. There has been nothing like that with Cavill.

Cavill has been more generally accepted than Routh.

For several reasons - I didn't list them in my previous post but here are two.

Cavill has far more acting experience than Routh did at the same point. Plus Routh had been "let go" from his biggest acting gig to that point.

Routh was seen by many as too young looking. He was derisively called Superboy by some. Cavill looks every bit his 28 years - indeed IMO he looks older than his actual age.

These two things have not been issues at all since Cavill was announced as the new Supes. They were issues from the get go with Routh.

I stand by my previous assertion that Cavill has been more generally accepted so far as Superman than was Routh at the same point.

As to controversy - I recall the photos of Routh at Horn's XMAS party in 2004 and how at some sites they were the butt of jokes.

To say that Routh was universally accepted until that lame shot of him in the suit is to deny what went on from late 2004 when he was first announced as the new Supes.

Go back to the Blue Tights archivs if they still exist or to the SHH archives. His was a controversial casting.

i disagree. there was some protest, but routh was overall accepted when he was first annnounced as the new supes. most people was willing to give him a chance. there was a poll here. he got more than 80% agreement.

the first pic of him as clark kent. people freaking loved it!!!

but...

the anxiety & problem really begun when the first official pic of him as Supes released.

 

[sf2]

stick to classic

and check out this insane cgi superman flight test.

I cannot believe this CGI was done by someone without a hollywood budget.

It wipes the floor with anything in Superman returns, and makes a mockery of the view that they couldn't put the s shield on the cape.

Snyder better look at this cgi if he insists on using a cgi superman for some scenes.

astonishing

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awesome cgi animation!!! as good / better than sr animation!!!
send to singer!!!

 

[ElDuderino]

That's not anywhere near as good as SR, but it's really damn good amateur stuff.

 

[blueboy2010]

That's not anywhere near as good as SR, but it's really damn good amateur stuff.

For me the one shot from SR that bugs me is the one where he throws the shuttle into space. His face just looked very fake there. No reason for them to use CGI in that instance.

 

[BH/HHH]

For me the one shot from SR that bugs me is the one where he throws the shuttle into space. His face just looked very fake there. No reason for them to use CGI in that instance.

But that plane scene is incredible regardless of the dodgy CG but yeah that bit especially looked fake.

Also The scene where Superman falls off New Krypton aswell thats really bad CGI aswell. It was used far too much in the film.

 

[GoblinWhirlwind]

So the costume artists for MOS will be there, Legendary pictures is presenting stuff, Cavill is there, Snyder will probably be there... if that doesn't say Superman reveal I don't know what does.

 

[Rust]

I agree, it's almost impossible for something not to be revealed whatever it might be then. Somebody will surely ask someone something, hehe.

 

[blueboy2010]

So the costume artists for MOS will be there, Legendary pictures is presenting stuff, Cavill is there, Snyder will probably be there... if that doesn't say Superman reveal I don't know what does.

I hope the crowd boos if there's no trunks t:

 

[Showtime]

I was there at the time. There was controversy over Routh from the start. There has been nothing like that with Cavill.

Oh really? Under another name perhaps? Maybe you were banned and then made a new name the next day and we didn't figure it out yet until now?

Cavill has been more generally accepted than Routh.

For several reasons - I didn't list them in my previous post but here are two.

Cavill has far more acting experience than Routh did at the same point. Plus Routh had been "let go" from his biggest acting gig to that point.

Routh was seen by many as too young looking. He was derisively called Superboy by some. Cavill looks every bit his 28 years - indeed IMO he looks older than his actual age.

These two things have not been issues at all since Cavill was announced as the new Supes. They were issues from the get go with Routh.

I stand by my previous assertion that Cavill has been more generally accepted so far as Superman than was Routh at the same point.

As to controversy - I recall the photos of Routh at Horn's XMAS party in 2004 and how at some sites they were the butt of jokes.

To say that Routh was universally accepted until that lame shot of him in the suit is to deny what went on from late 2004 when he was first announced as the new Supes.

Go back to the Blue Tights archivs if they still exist or to the SHH archives. His was a controversial casting.

He wasn't "controversial" that is a stretch. Nobody was up in arms over Routh when he was cast. Later on, it was very split, not from the beginning. Maybe YOU personally didn't like him from the first picture you saw, but it wasn't across the board as you are trying to imply.

 

[Showtime]

In one of the press releases about the schedule,it mentions MOS iirc. Here you go. Read near the bottom. It doesn't specifcally say they'll show anything but certainly they will be asked questions.

23RD of July:

5:00-6:00 Costume Designers & Costume Illustrators— Meet the men and women who are the costume designers and costume illustrators on this year's blockbuster films. Moderator Susan Nininger (member of Costume Designers Guild, Local 892; costume designer, The Bodyguard) talks to panelists and costume designers Julie Weiss (Twelve Monkeys, The Ring), Joseph Porro (Stargate, Ultra Violet), Wendy Chuck (Don't Be Afraid of the Dark, Twilight), and costume illustrators Christian Cordella (G.I. Joe 2: Cobra Strikes, Captain America: The First Avenger), Constantine Sekeres (G.I. Joe 2: Cobra Strikes, Superman: Man of Steel, Thor, Green Lantern), Phillip Boutte (Superman: Man of Steel, Twilight Saga), and Brian Valenzuela (Super 8, Mission Impossible 4). Room 23ABC


22ND of July:

12:45-1:45 Legendary Pictures: Preproduction Preview— Legendary Pictures holds its first-ever Comic-Con panel and shares an early look at some of the movies on the company's upcoming film slate. Fans will be able to access Legendary's plans, garner sneak peeks at their movies in preproduction, and hear from filmmakers and cast members from the upcoming Pacific Rim, Seventh Son, Paradise Lost, and Mass Effect. Panel participants include Jeff Bridges, Bradley Cooper, Guillermo del Toro, Ben Barnes, Charlie Hunnam, Idris Elba, Alicia Vikander, Alex Proyas, Sergei Bodrov, Travis Beacham, Mark Protosevich, and Casey Hudson. Room 6BCF

Didn't notice that actually, thanks for posting.

But that plane scene is incredible regardless of the dodgy CG but yeah that bit especially looked fake.

Also The scene where Superman falls off New Krypton aswell thats really bad CGI aswell. It was used far too much in the film.

I loved the plane sequence, best part of the film for me, after that the action story simply died.

awesome cgi animation!!! as good / better than sr animation!!!
send to singer!!!

That is fantastic.

There was a photograph from SR that shows Superman outside the Daily Planet standing next to Perry White. It might have been after he had caught the globe. I remember at the time, thinking how terrible the costume looked in that particular picture. He looked like Superboy, and not imposing looking at all. Some of it was down to the cape attachment that had the cape pulled way back off his shoulders. It just didn't look right imo. and it just served to highlight even more how insipid the \S/ was on his chest. Hopefully Snyder gets the cape attachment right.

Right so much later on, you didn't see the picture and find out Routh was cast and think it was controversial.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Routh was perfect as superman. not to say that Cavill Isn't either. routh was llet down by his costume. it didn't speak Superman to me. hopefully after reading that Cavil tested in the reeve suit. my first thought would to be modernise the Reeve suit as that suit fitted Cavill's look right.

Superman Returns was a fantastic story Driven movie. unfortunatly it was boring and not what the fans wanted.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Oh and i forgot. i read an comment saying superman is supposed to be imposing. He's Superman not Batman. the feeling you should get from Supes is i'm Safe now. not he's gonna beat the crap out of me.

 

[Puckenstein]

Superman Returns was a fantastic story Driven movie. unfortunatly it was boring...

Contradict yourself much?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Contradict yourself much?

possibly.

the film was good. and by boring i mean not enough Action.

EmoSuperman yeah just what we need to see.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

Routh was perfect as superman. not to say that Cavill Isn't either. routh was llet down by his costume. it didn't speak Superman to me. hopefully after reading that Cavil tested in the reeve suit. my first thought would to be modernise the Reeve suit as that suit fitted Cavill's look right.

Superman Returns was a fantastic story Driven movie. unfortunatly it was boring and not what the fans wanted.

I think Routh was perfect as that type of Superman. The Donnerverse type of Superman. He was absolutely perfect as the brooding, last son of a dead world, saviour of humanity Superman.

But I don't think he would have been right for this movie, or any reinvention of the character for film, because hopefully they will be showing a different interpretation of Superman. And I can't see Brandon Routh being able to accomplish something completely different in the way he played him. That's just how he naturally is in a role like that, it's how he sees the character.

One that isn't fuelled by loneliness and pensive thought. One that doesn't see being Superman as a sort of reluctant sacrifice. One that isn't positioned in the film as a Martyr.

In Cavill, I see a man who is full of a very human and tangible charisma. Who I can imagine laughing and being warm and easy going, as well as being able to appear serious and intimidating if neccesary. He has a better range than Routh IMO. He has a more raw quality to his acting.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I think Routh was perfect as that type of Superman. The Donnerverse type of Superman. He was absolutely perfect as the brooding, last son of a dead world, saviour of humanity Superman.

But I don't think he would have been right for this movie, or any reinvention of the character for film, because hopefully they will be showing a different interpretation of Superman. And I can't see Brandon Routh being able to accomplish something completely different in the way he played him. That's just how he naturally is in a role like that, it's how he sees the character.

One that isn't fuelled by loneliness and pensive thought. One that doesn't see being Superman as a sort of reluctant sacrifice. One that isn't positioned in the film as a Martyr.

In Cavill, I see a man who is full of a very human and tangible charisma. Who I can imagine laughing and being warm and easy going, as well as being able to appear serious and intimidating if neccesary. He has a better range than Routh IMO. He has a more raw quality to his acting.

I agree, Routh probably would not fit this new vision. i do think Routh could have done more. having been one of the few that watched Dylan Dog.

Routh was the one thing they got right for Returns. and i would have loved to see what else he would have done. however it's time to put that behind us now that we have Cavill. i will not really comment on him until we see the first pic of him in character.

 

[sf2]

I think Routh was perfect as that type of Superman. The Donnerverse type of Superman. He was absolutely perfect as the brooding, last son of a dead world, saviour of humanity Superman.

But I don't think he would have been right for this movie, or any reinvention of the character for film, because hopefully they will be showing a different interpretation of Superman. And I can't see Brandon Routh being able to accomplish something completely different in the way he played him. That's just how he naturally is in a role like that, it's how he sees the character.

One that isn't fuelled by loneliness and pensive thought. One that doesn't see being Superman as a sort of reluctant sacrifice. One that isn't positioned in the film as a Martyr.

In Cavill, I see a man who is full of a very human and tangible charisma. Who I can imagine laughing and being warm and easy going, as well as being able to appear serious and intimidating if neccesary. He has a better range than Routh IMO. He has a more raw quality to his acting.

i disagree completely. i think routh is perfect for this movie / as a young superman. infact, i think he isn't right for SR. he was too young. he couldn't show the depth / emotion of loneliness and pensive thought. furthermore he didn't have enough acting experience to do an experienced / well-established superman.

having said that, i believe cavill is equelly perfect for this movie too. just wish he is taller. :P

 

[Micromind]

Cavill seems to have a better acting range, but Routh can do well as Superman where Supes does not have to do emotional stuff but just action scenes, like Superman in Justice League, that is why I think that if WB don't want Cavill for JL then Routh is a good choice.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

If cavill is now Superman the WB are stupid to cast another actor in the JL. are they not learning anything with the Avengers. marvel have proved it can be done with the actors they already have.

 

[Superfreak]

If cavill is now Superman the WB are stupid to cast another actor in the JL. are they not learning anything with the Avengers. marvel have proved it can be done with the actors they already have.

As I'm older, I don't really care as much on the point. But when I was younger, I really did care about such things. Continuity of actors helps to create a more cohesive universe. This is what should be aimed for as it's the kiddies that bring in the $$$