Henry Cavill IS Superman: - Part 4

[Marvin]

Love this interview, and I love that he's immersing himself in the material. I remember singer didn't want his actors touching it
[YT]l6_54ufJ_sc[/YT]

I'd love to hear his thoughts on what he thought of each story.
I'd also love to tell him to avoid the johns stuff lol.
All Star with a bit of waid will do fine.

 

[B]

Welling's best shape if if I remember, was in season 4. Most impressive.

I'm sure Cavill will turn out fine physically so I'm not worried about that. The wait on the Superman suit is what has me...

Welling's build in & around seasons 4-8 was spot on (& as big as I'd ever want Superman to be), big massive frame, big chest, traps, shoulders & arms. He wasn't as ripped as he was in seasons 1-3, but he wasn't what you'd call undefined either, he still had a six pack. Seasons 8, 9 & then 10 he gradually got smaller.. he was still a more than good enough size & shape for Superman, but not as good as he had been in & around the middle seasons.

That being said, Cavill's body & frame isn't the same as Welling or Reeve. I think his body frame looks more similar to Dean Cain.. and he had an impressive build that he made work.

We'll know better when we see Cavill in a t-shirt or in the suit.. hopefully it will be within the next month or two..

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

Henry Cavill's just coming off shooting Immortals, his base physique for starting Superman training would easily have been as good as what Evans was going into Captain America from Fantastic Four, if not better.

Actually he's coming off Cold light of Day a role where he needed to just look normal, Evans and Hemsworth were already larger than Cavill was when they started training. He's grown big, but he's just not had enough time.

 

[B]

Actually he's coming off Cold light of Day a role where he needed to just look normal, Evans and Hemsworth were already larger than Cavill was when they started training. He's grown big, but he's just not had enough time.

His training base is still there in the same way that Evans base was still there from FF even though he'd shot a handful of other films in between were he didn't have to be in 'superhero' type shape.

The pictures surfaced in here ages ago of him on a beach from the film & you can tell he'd still retained the muscle that he'd put on for the role in Immortals. He wasn't as low bodyfat as he was in Immortals which was around 6% according to him, it was more like 10%-14%, but still, the base was still there.

 

[The Sage]

Love this interview, and I love that he's immersing himself in the material. I remember singer didn't want his actors touching it
[YT]l6_54ufJ_sc[/YT]

I'd love to hear his thoughts on what he thought of each story.
I'd also love to tell him to avoid the johns stuff lol.
All Star with a bit of waid will do fine.

Never heard about Singer not wanting his actors touching the material. In fact, I recall reading Routh's interviews on Superman, and he sounded knowledgeable on the character, even more than Singer.

Too late to avoid Johns' stuff, Cavill mentioned the New Krypton saga. Though Johns' stories aren't bad, just not a lot of depth. Still solid reads.

He mentioned Red Son, which is an elseworlds by Mark Millar. If anyone hasn't read it, I recommend giving it a read. It's fantastic.

 

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Access Hollywood asked him if his hair was darker, and he answered, "It is, yeah. I can't imagine why."

Lol, that's great. I had hoped his hair would be black... makes him look even better, 100% Superman

Also, maybe there's pics in the Lois thread, but has Amy Adams been seen anywhere lately? If her hair is dyed yet could tell us what the shooting schedule is... if it's not, they're probably doing early Clark scenes first.

 

[KalMart]

You'll have to wait for the sequel to see that. Because as of now, Both Hemsworth and Evans look bigger. I mean, holy God, the build on Evans is extremely impressive. That is a terrific Superman build right there.
I honestly can not say that Cavill is impressive looking. Good? Yes. Impressive? no.

The only reason I piss and moan about this is because the Superman suit is so damn hard to pull off. The actor portraying Superman HAS to be extra big in order for it to show outside the spandex. Cavill is in great shape, no one is denying that, like in any way, but to put it nicely, some extra bulk might be needed.

But Cavill, like Bale, has a frame and proportions that could likely make him look stockier the more muscle he puts on. I think both look taller the leaner they are. That can work fine for Batman, because the suit/armor can add width to the shoulders while keeping the waist comparatively narrow, but with Superman...if they're not going with armor, it'll be much less forgiving, so to speak. Put it this way, he wouldn't look like Hemsworth or Evans, proportionally, even if he packed on a lot of muscle, but maybe this Superman isn't built quite like that. If he's got good, athletic musculature and the suit's design compliments/enhances that, it could be fine.

It seems like he's spent time putting on extra muscle mass and weight. Probably best right now to concentrate less on adding overall mass, and target key areas for overall proportion/tone.

 

[Marvin]

Never heard about Singer not wanting his actors touching the material. In fact, I recall reading Routh's interviews on Superman, and he sounded knowledgeable on the character, even more than Singer.

Too late to avoid Johns' stuff, Cavill mentioned the New Krypton saga. Though Johns' stories aren't bad, just not a lot of depth. Still solid reads.

He mentioned Red Son, which is an elseworlds by Mark Millar. If anyone hasn't read it, I recommend giving it a read. It's fantastic.

Routh was always a fan so he no doubt knew the game, I do remember it being said that they avoided the material and past interpretations too(except for Donner course).

Red Sun get's superman more than more normal books actually. It has one of the strongest lex interpretations I've seen. (love the gl stuff in it too...and the batman stuff...and the wonderwo....great read all around).

uhh johns...and I heard goyer site him as an inspiration for this already...

 

[Karelia]

That reminds me, I need to go pick up Red Son. Been on my list for awhile now.

 

[thatsabadoutfit]

It seems like he's spent time putting on extra muscle mass and weight. Probably best right now to concentrate less on adding overall mass, and target key areas for overall proportion/tone.

Every person's body is different. His trainers are going to get him in the best shape they can that fits the suit. Again, he's already tried on the suit, the suit is made. You can't get him too big or you'll need to make a new suit. I think they have an idea of how they want him to look and that's what they are doing.

Here is a quote from Henry in April:

“It’s going to be a different kind of shape. When you see the Immortals shape you’ll see what I mean. We obviously haven’t had the final brief yet, it’s going to adapt and change as far as when Mark sees my body adapting to the training he’ll go, ‘Okay, Henry can do this,’ or ‘Henry can’t do this,’ or ‘His body will look better like that.’ It’ll be fine-tuned and tweaked as we go along. But I think it’s going to be a different sort of shape from Immortals.”

Personally, I think all the judgement and criticism being made after seeing him in a loose fitting long sleeve shirt and slacks is ridiculous. Wait until you seem in the the actual suit to pass judgement.

 

[KalMart]

Every person's body is different. His trainers are going to get him in the best shape they can that fits the suit. Again, he's already tried on the suit, the suit is made. You can't get him too big or you'll need to make a new suit. I think they have an idea of how they want him to look and that's what they are doing.

That's what I mean, in that maybe they've already found his ideal combination of mass/tone for his frame. Not just the suit, you don't want him looking too stocky or bloated either.

 

[Majestic]

I hardly ever post but am a huge fan of superman growing up. We are lucky to be honest to have an actual actor such as Henry Cavill who is committed take on the role is a blessing for superman fans and why is that so hard to see? He got fantastic shape for immortals which takes a big time dedication which a lot of you have no understanding of being at 6% body fat or less. That is an accomplishment on its own! Even if you have a trainer it requires the utmost dedication. I would feel very strongly most people have no understanding of that or even tried to get in that type of shape? And to think he will not be in shape for the Man of Steel. And stop comparing Chis Evans to Cavill because he Cavill is naturally a bigger guy so he has more potential either way. You guys continue to look at photos that really tell you nothing except one thing it is noticeable that Cavill is in shape and will continue to work on it. He may end up being the best Superman we have ever had on screen. Just be excited for a new Superman movie with an actual actor and not an unknown!

 

[thatsabadoutfit]

That's what I mean, in that maybe they've already found his ideal combination of mass/tone for his frame. Not just the suit, you don't want him looking too stocky or bloated either.

I do think the suit will have some sort of inconspicuous padding in various places just to add to his tone and create additional shadows. Snyder used makeup and airbrushing to make the 300 actors look more toned than they really were and I think they'll do the same to the costume without making it look fake.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Love this interview, and I love that he's immersing himself in the material. I remember singer didn't want his actors touching it
[YT]l6_54ufJ_sc[/YT]

I'd love to hear his thoughts on what he thought of each story.
I'd also love to tell him to avoid the johns stuff lol.
All Star with a bit of waid will do fine.

Damn, I cannot look at this guy and not think Superman. I feel like a japanese schoolgirl whenever I watch one of these Cavill interviews.

 

[thatsabadoutfit]

I think I'm more excited to see Henry's take on Clark Kent more than Superman. Will he take the goofy, stumbling approach? Will he be shy? I'm psyched to see his contrast between Superman and Clark.

 

[DorkyFresh]

Damn, I cannot look at this guy and not think Superman. I feel like a japanese schoolgirl whenever I watch one of these Cavill interviews.

i like how he's not like "YEAH I KNOW HIM INSIDE AND OUT! I'm in his brain! I know everything about him!!!".....he's truthful and humble just like Superman

 

[KalMart]

I do think the suit will have some sort of inconspicuous padding in various places just to add to his tone and create additional shadows. Snyder used makeup and airbrushing to make the 300 actors look more toned than they really were and I think they'll do the same to the costume without making it look fake.

The only 'padding' I could see is perhaps a little on the deltoids to broaden the shoulders. If they make it look natural, I'm all for it. I'm not too concerned with actually seeing the 'cuts' of the pecs and sixpack, etc.

 

[Marvin]

Damn, I cannot look at this guy and not think Superman. I feel like a japanese schoolgirl whenever I watch one of these Cavill interviews.

I hope the movie goes more with the established superman and not the young guy getting powers story line.

I think that was a mixed bag with cap. He was relatable but at the same time it's not the Confident leader cap.

I think if they want to use Cavil at his best they should go with the established Superman. He just has a crap ton of charisma and exudes confidence, like the character and if they don't use that than Snyder may as well have just cast Routh or even Evans for this role. However after 300/Watchmen I'm confident Snyder will put a very strong and distinct character on the screen.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

how is cavill not tall enough he is same height as christian bale and superman and batman are drawn to have the same height in the comics

I think Cavill is actually taller than Bale. Bale is 6'0 and Cavill is 6'1.. maybe 6'1 and a half. Cavill's torso alone is longer than Bale's. With that said, I think he (Cavill) should do just fine as Superman.

 

[DCnightwing23]

I honestly think Cavill is in great shape for Superman, i wish he didnt "hide" his physique, especially at comic con, with such a loose fitting shirt but in some pictures you can really tell he's bulked up and you can see the 25lbs he's talked about gaining. He's at the point where you see him and think Superman almost instantly, its awesome.

And in this picture he appears much more intimidating and bulkier than Lutz, who some believe looked bigger than Cavill in Immortals pictures. Now Cavill looks much bigger and tougher than him, yeah he's Superman

 

[KalMart]

I honestly think Cavill is in great shape for Superman, i wish he didnt "hide" his physique, especially at comic con, with such a loose fitting shirt but in some pictures you can really tell he's bulked up and you can see the 25lbs he's talked about gaining. He's at the point where you see him and think Superman almost instantly, its awesome.

And in this picture he appears much more intimidating and bulkier than Lutz, who some believe looked bigger than Cavill in Immortals pictures. Now Cavill looks much bigger and tougher than him, yeah he's Superman

I don't know who 'Lutz' is, but that guy in the red shirt next to Cavill's got a pretty good superhero frame.

 

[--Zero-Ethic--]

I don't know who 'Lutz' is, but that guy in the red shirt next to Cavill's got a pretty good superhero frame.

Yea, Lutz is jacked up to f**k lol
So if anyone is looking at Henry next to Lutz and thinking our Supes isn't too buff, think again. Lutz is ripped.

 

[Marvin]

http://henry-cavill.org/gallery/albums/Photoshoots/2011/02/002.jpg

Cavill looks taller than a mixed group of actors of varied heights. I think it's great. I used to be obsessed with a super tall superman but it actually works against clark to be honest.

Cain 6.0 (i can see it)
Routh 6.3(probably taller)
Welling 6.3(probably shorter)
Reeve at 6.4 (awesome)


Cavil 6.1 fingers crossed.

 

[Mike22]

Lutz has a way way better body type.
Much bigger, wider chest, broader shoulders.
Cavill is big too, but not in the same way Lutz is. Not all bodies develop the same way.
Even from that picture one can clearly see, Lutz is considerably broader. And if you know how hard it is to actually develop a build like Lutz has, it would be easier to understand just how long it takes to grow that little extra width.
In closing, Cavill is not THAT type of big. He has his own distinct look.
I understand that Cavill only had like 6-7 months of workout, and maybe he's a hard gainer in which a lot more time is needed to grow. But I do show understanding though, it sure as hell isn't easy to grow to Lutz's size in a matter of months, that's why I think we might have to wait for he sequel to see a really jacked Cavill.

And just so I don't get accused of wanting a bodybuilder ( as if Cavill is anywhere near that). Lutz's size is what I consider to be ideal.

 

[Mike22]

http://henry-cavill.org/gallery/albums/Photoshoots/2011/02/002.jpg

Cavill looks taller than a mixed group of actors of varied heights. I think it's great. I used to be obsessed with a super tall superman but it actually works against clark to be honest.

Cain 6.0 (i can see it)
Routh 6.3(probably taller)
Welling 6.3(probably shorter)
Reeve at 6.4 (awesome)


Cavil 6.1 fingers crossed.

Probably taller.
The guest star playing Booster Gold on Smallville said Welling was like 6'5.