How to Kill Wolverine

TheCorpulent1 said:
How could Wolverine be a Lobo rip-off when Lobo is a Wolverine rip-off? :confused: Besides, Lobo spawned new Lobos from his blood. I'm talking about how Wolverine's cellular regeneration works. It obviously can't be connected to whichever part of his body's got his brain, or whichever part of his body has more mass, since he can regrow his entire body from a single cell. It makes sense to me that every chunk of him that's separated would try to regrow whatever is necessary to make a complete body.

I was being fesicous.

Lobo is certainly not a Wolverine rip off more like a parody
 
roach said:
did I say he didnt have the skills of a samurai. He is a failed samurai because he cant control himself. I know the character because I have been reading X-men since 1982.

wow you're old :p
 
how about dropping him in a vat of acid? if that doesn't work, give him the cure and then drop him in.
 
screech_turbo said:
how about dropping him in a vat of acid? if that doesn't work, give him the cure and then drop him in.


if he could survive a nuclear explosion that left him just bones...what is acid gonna do
 
roach said:
if he could survive a nuclear explosion that left him just bones...what is acid gonna do

you could use the cure first. so he won't be able to heal. then drop him in.
 
My first thought for this thread was, get Electro to go all out and fry him from the inside out.

But that seems like Wolverine would just get up 1.3 seconds later and say "I'm still alive, are you shocked? Wait, no that's me. I was shocked, you shocked me but you're shocked as well. AHAHAHAHAHA!... Please, someone kill me. I mean it, I'm just as curious as to what actually can kill me as you are."
 
Couldnt be arsed to read all 7 pages so im sorry if this has already been posted.

In the Xavier Protocols, the Proff states that the best way to kill Wolverine is to remove his head and to distance it from his body to prevent it re-attatching itself. (This was when Wolverine had had his adamantium removed though)

Now, you could use magnetic bullets like in the Captain America/Wolverine limited series.

:unishr:
 
I can't believe there are actually guys sticking up for the "invincible Wolverine" concept.

What the heck is wrong with you people?! It's bad storytelling!! Wolverine should not be able to survive nukes. He should not be able to survive being reduced to a skeleton. He should not survive having his heart explode.

But noooooooooooo. In the eyes of fanboys, the more powerful Wolverine is the better. You have this idiotic "my character can beat your character LOL!" attitude.

It's. Bad. Storytelling.

Wolverine being able to come back from being nothing more than a skeleton is the equivalent of Wolverine suddenly being able to fire optic blasts without explanation.

Niether of them makes sense. Niether of them are possible.

Who wants to read about a ****ing invincible Wolverine?
 
screech_turbo said:
you could use the cure first. so he won't be able to heal. then drop him in.


until they reveal that his super immune system can handle the cure
 
kainedamo said:
I can't believe there are actually guys sticking up for the "invincible Wolverine" concept.

What the heck is wrong with you people?! It's bad storytelling!! Wolverine should not be able to survive nukes. He should not be able to survive being reduced to a skeleton. He should not survive having his heart explode.

the fact that this is being argued just makes me happier that I just read DC now. The Hulk can be killed by nuclear explosion(Hulk:Future Imperfect) and he's already radioactive
 
kainedamo said:
I can't believe there are actually guys sticking up for the "invincible Wolverine" concept.

What the heck is wrong with you people?! It's bad storytelling!! Wolverine should not be able to survive nukes. He should not be able to survive being reduced to a skeleton. He should not survive having his heart explode.

But noooooooooooo. In the eyes of fanboys, the more powerful Wolverine is the better. You have this idiotic "my character can beat your character LOL!" attitude.

It's. Bad. Storytelling.

Wolverine being able to come back from being nothing more than a skeleton is the equivalent of Wolverine suddenly being able to fire optic blasts without explanation.

Niether of them makes sense. Niether of them are possible.

Who wants to read about a ****ing invincible Wolverine?


I agree with the nuke survival being ridiculous but not all the other arguments against his augmented healing.

Many say it came from left field but I do recall two instances where W upgrade is explained.

Fire and Ice one shot states that W healing ability and full potential as a mutant was stunted by the bonding of adamantium to his bones.

When Magneto removed the adamantium his powers began to naturally evolve.

Technically it is plausible for him to regenerate from a single cell.

I cant believe all the hypocrisy. Spiderman gets an upgrade with the Queen bee story line and then gets another immediate upgrade in the Other storyline and nobody cries foul.
 
It's this wolverine hate tha has taken over a small portion of fans. Hulk gets upgraded to beyond stupid levels (punching a whole in the fabric of reality) and people love it. ditto deadpool and many others. But god forbid it happens to wolverine

This attitude is insanely idiotic.

How the heck is it "Wolverine hate" to want him to stay at the same level roundabouts healing wise??? WE JUST WANT GOOD STORYTELLING AND CONSISTINCY!! It used to be that Wolverine would take days to heal from being shot a bunch of times. Wolverine has been amped up to the point where he can heal from machine gun fire in a few minutes.

But that isn't good enough??

****ing stupid fanboy attitude!! I hate it.

Even Hulk can't heal back from being a skeleton. The Maestro died in a nuclear explosion. It takes hours upon hours for Hulk to heal from being eaten by swarms of cockroaches... and Hulk's healing is meant to be far superior to Wolverine's.

But Wolverine can heal from being a skeleton in two minutes.

How can you not be thinking to yourself "BULL****!! That makes no sense whatsoever!". Instead your thinking "WOW lol kool! Wolverine's unbeatable lol better than anyone hahah".

Idiots.
 
KAD said:
Fire and Ice one shot states that W healing ability and full potential as a mutant was stunted by the bonding of adamantium to his bones.

When Magneto removed the adamantium his powers began to naturally evolve.

Technically it is plausible for him to regenerate from a single cell.

I cant believe all the hypocrisy. Spiderman gets an upgrade with the Queen bee story line and then gets another immediate upgrade in the Other storyline and nobody cries foul.

1) So wouldnt it be logical that his Healing Factor got returned to regular levels the moment the Adamantium was replaced????
2) Go to the Spider-man forums to see how people "didnt cry foul" over Spider-man's new abilities.
 
I cant believe all the hypocrisy. Spiderman gets an upgrade with the Queen bee story line and then gets another immediate upgrade in the Other storyline and nobody cries foul.

I've yet to see Spidey do something that's completely impossible, so that's the reason for the lack of complaints there. As for the bone spikes he has, there has been **** loads of complaining about that.

When Spidey starts bench pressing the titanic, I'll start complaining.

I'd say Spidey lifting the titanic is the equivalent of Wolverine healing from being nothing more than skeleton in two minutes.
 
kainedamo said:
I've yet to see Spidey do something that's completely impossible, so that's the reason for the lack of complaints there. As for the bone spikes he has, there has been **** loads of complaining about that.

When Spidey starts bench pressing the titanic, I'll start complaining.

I'd say Spidey lifting the titanic is the equivalent of Wolverine healing from being nothing more than skeleton in two minutes.

I agree
 
roach said:
1) So wouldnt it be logical that his Healing Factor got returned to regular levels the moment the Adamantium was replaced????
2) Go to the Spider-man forums to see how people "didnt cry foul" over Spider-man's new abilities.

1) No it seems logical they stopped advancing again. They wouldn't regress.

2) Some do most don't


I don't support the Uber unkillable W idea but I think a reasonable upgrade is perfectly fine.

In addition in Blood and Ice W mutation is described as being much more than just a healing factor. W is told that if not for the adamantium he would be intune with the earths biosphere and have abilities far beyond where he is even today.
 
kainedamo said:
I've yet to see Spidey do something that's completely impossible, so that's the reason for the lack of complaints there. As for the bone spikes he has, there has been **** loads of complaining about that.

When Spidey starts bench pressing the titanic, I'll start complaining.

I'd say Spidey lifting the titanic is the equivalent of Wolverine healing from being nothing more than skeleton in two minutes.


I'd say Spidey beating Firelord is the equivilant of him lifting a titanic in each hand:eek:
 
KAD said:
1) No it seems logical they stopped advancing again. They wouldn't regress.

2) Some do most don't


I don't support the Uber unkillable W idea but I think a reasonable upgrade is perfectly fine.

In addition in Blood and Ice W mutation is described as being much more than just a healing factor. W is told that if not for the adamantium he would be intune with the earths biosphere and have abilities far beyond where he is even today.


I seem to remember that the reason Wolverine's healing abilities are tuned down because his body is coping with the Adamantium. Take out the metal and his body's healing ability shoots to Hulk like proportions. Put the metal back in and it dulls his healing back to regular levels due to his body coping with the metal.
 
KAD said:
I'd say Spidey beating Firelord is the equivilant of him lifting a titanic in each hand:eek:


which has been argued to ad nauseum
 
roach said:
which has been argued to ad nauseum

That doesn't make it irrelevant.

In addition there is also the initial power drop W suffered after first joining the x-men
 
KAD said:
That doesn't make it irrelevant.

In addition there is also the initial power drop W suffered after first joining the x-men

which power drop was that???
 
roach said:
I seem to remember that the reason Wolverine's healing abilities are tuned down because his body is coping with the Adamantium. Take out the metal and his body's healing ability shoots to Hulk like proportions. Put the metal back in and it dulls his healing back to regular levels due to his body coping with the metal.

That was the original concept but Blood and Ice changed that.

If you haven't read check it out. It portrays a modern Wolverine with great storytelling. Alan Davis supplies the pencils.

By the way I have been reading Wolverne since his first appearance, I have always liked the Wolverine that was unstoppable because of his tenacity more so than his power.

Pitting another hero (say Spiderman) against Wolverine should be akin to placing a prize fighter against a serial killer of lesser yet comprable physical ability.

The fighter would lose just about every time as the SK would not be looking to win but rather to do away with his opponent.
 
roach said:
which power drop was that???

Lets see in his first appearance W takes on the Hulk and Wendigo fairly easily.

He is knocked out from behind because he is caught unaware and still manages to dodge and survive a full force blow from the Hulk to his head.

Then he joins the X-men as the canadian scrapper/brawler with claws thats great in a bar fight but can barely handle warhawk
 

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