Interstellar - Part 9

[BatLobster]

He did. DarthMuppet has pointed out that in the context of the quote, he's referring to earlier drafts of the script, though it's still not clear what that means for the final film.

Honestly, there is nothing in the movie (as far as I know) that really offers confirmation one way or the other. I think this could be an issue that Jonah/Chris/Kip all have their own point of views on.

 

[redhawk23]

I wouldn’t say that focus on characters and obeying “internal rules” are mutually exclusive. For instance: in a conventional genre, it might prove convenient if a car could fly (so as to get the hero from A to B much quicker ). But cars can’t fly; so the author simply adheres to the “rules” and writes a different solution - without necessarily sacrificing the drama. Likewise, the constraints of realistic sci-fi don’t have to limit anything else about the story.

This is true, but in this case so much of the writing process, the emphasis for the film was rooted in the creation and adherance to their rule set. The rule-set seems like it was much more their goal than story or theme. Interstellar certainly has strong themes, and some of the characters are decently fleshed out but I do think they fell a bit by the way side in terms of emphasis.

 

[DarthMuppet]

He did. DarthMuppet has pointed out that in the context of the quote, he's referring to earlier drafts of the script, though it's still not clear what that means for the final film.

Honestly, there is nothing in the movie (as far as I know) that really offers confirmation one way or the other. I think this could be an issue that Jonah/Chris/Kip all have their own point of views on.

I still need to get my hands on a copy of it, but a friend of mine who has read the novelization said that in it, the wormhole is still open at the end.

 

[BatLobster]

I still need to get my hands on a copy of it, but a friend of mine who has read the novelization said that in it, the wormhole is still open at the end.

Ooo. The plot thickens.

 

[Donut]

The ending of the movie does not work without the wormhole being opened at the end. Otherwise it would take him a very long time 2 go back wouldnt it ?

 

[ThePhantasm]

We don't know the capabilities of the new ship he was piloting...

 

[Quasimod0]

I thought the end ended on a fairly positive note. But that's not the case, if the wormhole was closed. I'm just gonna believe it was open, and that he could get back to Brand. lol

 

[Donut]

We don't know the capabilities of the new ship he was piloting...

Surely if that other ship was able 2 get that far out in space it would have been tested

 

[DA_Champion]

One thing that Nolan/Thorne interview really lays out is the source of some of the movie's problems. With so much focus on bending the storytelling to fit established scientific rules, there was a lot less focus on the actual characters. I thought Cooper and Murphy were pretty well established and written but anyone else? Not so much.

You don't to break nature to tell a good story.

 

[ThePhantasm]

Surely if that other ship was able 2 get that far out in space it would have been tested

Surely if the wormhole was open still then someone would have gotten to Brand, or explored those worlds?

There's a problem either way.

 

[Travesty]

One thing that Nolan/Thorne interview really lays out is the source of some of the movie's problems. With so much focus on bending the storytelling to fit established scientific rules, there was a lot less focus on the actual characters. I thought Cooper and Murphy were pretty well established and written but anyone else? Not so much.

Yeah, I agree with this. I'm still not sure what Dr. Mann's plan was? Was he wanting to go back to Earth to live out the rest of his life, or was he going to do Plan B, and try and populate another world? And if so, why did he try to kill Cooper and Brand? Was it because he was embarrassed that he lied to have someone wake him up/save him? His character comes out of nowhere, and his motivations aren't really fleshed out. For a character to have such a pivotal role in the film, it's not exactly clear what he's doing. Did I miss something?

I need to start reading reviews on this movie. I still haven't read any.

 

[Donut]

There's a problem either way.

Yep damn it Nolan & the way he ends his movies sometimes

 

[jmc]

Yeah, I agree with this. I'm still not sure what Dr. Mann's plan was? Was he wanting to go back to Earth to live out the rest of his life, or was he going to do Plan B, and try and populate another world? And if so, why did he try to kill Cooper and Brand? Was it because he was embarrassed that he lied to have someone wake him up/save him? His character comes out of nowhere, and his motivations aren't really fleshed out. For a character to have such a pivotal role in the film, it's not exactly clear what he's doing. Did I miss something?

I need to start reading reviews on this movie. I still haven't read any.

I think with Mann the main thing to take away is he wanted to survive above all else.

 

[DarthMuppet]

Surely if the wormhole was open still then someone would have gotten to Brand, or explored those worlds?

There's a problem either way.

Because of the time dilation from the slingshot around Gargantua, Brand only arrived at Edmund's world either shortly before or shortly after Cooper arrived on Cooper station. Because of this, the people on Cooper station had no reason to believe the mission had been a success or to think any of the planets on the other side of the wormhole were viable.

Despite what Jonah Nolan said(and he was referring to an earlier draft of the script), there is no evidence in the film that the wormhole was anything other than still open. Also, as mentioned earlier, in the novelization, the wormhole was still open.

 

[Gold Samurai]

One of these days I hope Nolan makes a silent film

http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/18/showbiz/movies/interstellar-sound-nolan/

"Many of the filmmakers I've admired over the years have used sound in bold and adventurous ways," Nolan told The Hollywood Reporter. "I don't agree with the idea that you can only achieve clarity through dialogue."

Ever since I noticed Nolan from "Batman begins" it's become his staple to end a movie with barely any dialogue. He lets the music do the job.



I LOVE the disclaimer

"Please note that all our sound equipment is functioning properly. Christopher Nolan mixed the soundtrack with an emphasis on the music. This is how it is intended to sound."

Basically "Nolan hired Han Zimmer as the composer Your mind will be blown. YOU. WILL . LISTEN"

 

[Deserana]

The sound issue has to be one of the biggest film exaggerations of the year. If it was the original sound mix issue everybody would have been having at least some bad issues. I'm not even BSing but in my LieMAX I genuinely got every word and any I didn't wasn't because of overbearing music.

 

[DA_Champion]

The sound issue has to be one of the biggest film exaggerations of the year. If it was the original sound mix issue everybody would have been having at least some bad issues. I'm not even BSing but in my LieMAX I genuinely got every word and any I didn't wasn't because of overbearing music.

I live in Canberra. We don't have an IMAX.

 

[Gee]

While waiting for the official release...

https://soundcloud.com/tyler-srinivasaraghavan/spinning-dock

 

[redfirebird2008]

Yeah, I agree with this. I'm still not sure what Dr. Mann's plan was? Was he wanting to go back to Earth to live out the rest of his life, or was he going to do Plan B, and try and populate another world? And if so, why did he try to kill Cooper and Brand? Was it because he was embarrassed that he lied to have someone wake him up/save him? His character comes out of nowhere, and his motivations aren't really fleshed out. For a character to have such a pivotal role in the film, it's not exactly clear what he's doing. Did I miss something?

I need to start reading reviews on this movie. I still haven't read any.

[BLACKOUT]I believe he wanted to go with Plan B and start the colony. At one point he says "we are the future," meaning colonization instead of going back to Earth. [/BLACKOUT]

 

[Deserana]

Mann's intent was to start Plan B I believe. He realised that Cooper/Brand wouldn't exactly be on board with it so decided to go it alone.

 

[Agent Orange]

Mann's intent was to start Plan B I believe. He realised that Cooper/Brand wouldn't exactly be on board with it so decided to go it alone.

And Cooper said that he was going back to Earth after hearing about Professor Brand's plan. Mann needed the Endurance to go to Edmunds' planet.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

The sound issue has to be one of the biggest film exaggerations of the year. If it was the original sound mix issue everybody would have been having at least some bad issues. I'm not even BSing but in my LieMAX I genuinely got every word and any I didn't wasn't because of overbearing music.

I missed one line in IMAX. One, and it was a throwaway line, I think a joke. This movie was a loud ass movie in IMAX, but it was clear as crystal with the sound, IMO.

 

[lime]

So the docking scene is not in the soundtrack? Not the original and not in the deluxe. I don't understand why the best track of the score is not in it?

 

[Mysteryman]

RT audience score is useless.

Truer words were never spoken and that applies to ANY movie.

 

[Tequilla]

Yeah, I agree with this. I'm still not sure what Dr. Mann's plan was? Was he wanting to go back to Earth to live out the rest of his life, or was he going to do Plan B, and try and populate another world? And if so, why did he try to kill Cooper and Brand? Was it because he was embarrassed that he lied to have someone wake him up/save him? His character comes out of nowhere, and his motivations aren't really fleshed out. For a character to have such a pivotal role in the film, it's not exactly clear what he's doing. Did I miss something?

Mann wants

Spoiler

to continue the mission. To go to Edmunds planet. His weakness led him to transmit false data so he could be picked up and not stay in the planet for the rest of his life. After Cooper decides he's going back to earth , he decides to kill him and lead the rest of the mission. He had previously equipped a bomb in Kipps data , to protect himself from his actions. After Romily accesses it and dies , he decides to go in the journey alone. Steals the ship and goes to Endurance. Imperfect Lock.