Interstellar - Part 9

[Jaspertian1105]

I know this is OT, but from scanning this topic regularly I'm picking up The Prestige wasn't a well-received movie. Is this just because of the end?

I think the prestige is his best movie, with memento. I prefer that he tones down the scifi, metaphysical ideas and goes back to small stories. I think that is his strength in realism, when he goes out of that way he stumbles and gets extremely convoluted

 

[antsman41]

The Prestige is his only downright masterpiece.

It's perfect, the intercutting plots, Bale/Jackman at their best, the different POVs you can take it after every re-watch, the period aspect, the way he adapted a novel without loosing the novel's core...

 

[green]

So I saw Interstellar…the movie was as underwhelming to me as the marketing.

Quite a disappointment.

 

[Boom]

Can't say I cared too much about the movie, if I'm being frank.

Could barely hear dialogue half the time because the score was insufferably loud in IMAX, and I freely admit that the final act lost me.

I'll see it again in a standard theater, but not one of my favorites from Nolan.

 

[Enriquespy]

So I saw Interstellar…the movie was as underwhelming to me as the marketing.

Quite a disappointment.

 

[green]

Yeah it was…only it seems I'm not alone.

 

[Enriquespy]

Actually I just wanted to use that pic. thanks for the excuse Ha!!!

 

[Jaspertian1105]

Yeah it was…only it seems I'm not alone.

Not at all, its not criticizing for the sake of it, but there was way too much stuff in the way for me to enjoy. I have always loved space and space adventures, but this movie even though the VFX crew did an outstanding job, the story wasn't up to what they did. But if people enjoyed im glad for them

 

[green]

You're welcome.t:

 

[green]

Not at all, its not criticizing for the sake of it, but there was way too much stuff in the way for me to enjoy. I have always loved space and space adventures, but this movie even though the VFX crew did an outstanding job, the story wasn't up to what they did. But if people enjoyed im glad for them

Yeah, Ive got no problems with people liking or even loving it. Personally it was a let down. Different strokes.

 

[DA_Champion]

Spoiler

I thought the wormhole was still there. Did they specifically mentioned that it wasn't? I missed some dialogue.

I'm not sure if the worm hole is still there.

 

[DA_Champion]

Not at all, its not criticizing for the sake of it, but there was way too much stuff in the way for me to enjoy. I have always loved space and space adventures, but this movie even though the VFX crew did an outstanding job, the story wasn't up to what they did. But if people enjoyed im glad for them

You may have always loved space but this movie is totally different from star trek, star wars, guardians of the galaxy, etc. This was hard scifi, basically a different genre completely.

 

[Jaspertian1105]

You may have always loved space but this movie is totally different from star trek, star wars, guardians of the galaxy, etc. This was hard scifi, basically a different genre completely.

mmm not really, it wasn't that hard sci fi actually. No matter how much they say about the accuracy , it was still mid range sci fi and in the end it was full sci fi, so its not a different genera at all. 2001 was more hard sci fi and i think its a far far better movie.

And a love or not of space doesn't influence my enjoyment of a movie , the problem wasn't with the science or not, it was with the story and the many flaws in it.

 

[JAK®]

I think the prestige is his best movie, with memento. I prefer that he tones down the scifi, metaphysical ideas and goes back to small stories. I think that is his strength in realism, when he goes out of that way he stumbles and gets extremely convoluted

The Prestige had straight-up magic in it (Tesla's cloning machine). I do agree that it is his best film and he does best with smaller stories like that one.

 

[BatLobster]

I think for whatever leaps the movie made, it's one of the best examples of a space exploration movie that adheres to real theories and principles of astrophysics. And it's only one of two movies where an astrophysicist was involved from the conceptual stage and the theories were guiding the story from the start, the other one being Contact.

 

[Jumpman]

The Prestige is his only downright masterpiece.

It's perfect, the intercutting plots, Bale/Jackman at their best, the different POVs you can take it after every re-watch, the period aspect, the way he adapted a novel without loosing the novel's core...

Having watched INTERSTELLAR for a 2nd time today and thinking over his films, I think you might be right. I still say you could add MEMENTO to that masterpiece class.

Still, THE PRESTIGE is starting to feel like the true masterpiece SO FAR in Nolan's filmography.

But, ****, I'm still so partial to DARK KNIGHT. I know many don't agree here but that film feels just as tight and concise as the PRESTIGE. Just my feeling anyway.

 

[DA_Champion]

The only science error documented in the movie are the ice clouds.

You might also argue that cryogenic sleep will never exist.

So yeah this is hard scifi.

 

[Jaspertian1105]

The only science error documented in the movie are the ice clouds.

You might also argue that cryogenic sleep will never exist.

So yeah this is hard scifi.

Jesus Christ tell me you are not serious, i will take this post very lightly honestly. I guess we found proof of how that interiors of black holes are basically giant librarys, trans dimensional human gods, sassy AIs, gravitational engines that lift space stations, that love is the ONLY emotion that bind together space and time and amazing ways to send information just by pushing books.

So yeah all proven science

 

[X Knight]

hey.....you can never go wrong with sassy AIs.

 

[Jaspertian1105]

hey.....you can never go wrong with sassy AIs.

No argument there

 

[DA_Champion]

Jesus Christ tell me you are not serious, i will take this post very lightly honestly. I guess we found proof of how that interiors of black holes are basically giant librarys, trans dimensional human gods, sassy AIs, gravitational engines that lift space stations, that love is the ONLY emotion that bind together space and time and amazing ways to send information just by pushing books.

So yeah all proven science

The library is part of a closed timelike curve, that's been explained to you multiple times.

As for sassy AI's, that waa an homage to 2001, and I see no problem with AI's existing 50-100 years down the line.

 

[Phallic]

Jesus Christ tell me you are not serious, i will take this post very lightly honestly. I guess we found proof of how that interiors of black holes are basically giant librarys, trans dimensional human gods, sassy AIs, gravitational engines that lift space stations, that love is the ONLY emotion that bind together space and time and amazing ways to send information just by pushing books.

So yeah all proven science

No offense man, but I think you misunderstood the ending. I'll briefly summarize the science of the 3rd act.

Spoiler

Gargantuan was a rotating super massive black hole. Another, more technical name for this type of black hole is a Kerr black hole. This is important because rather than a point singularity as you see in traditional black holes, Kerr blackes are in the former of a 2D ring. As a result, one could survive passing through it. What lies past this point is unknown to us as known physics starts to break down. Some have hypothesize that it could act as a wormhole or an inter dimensional portal. Certainly a tesseract would be plausible with this in mind (the book shelf.)

He didn't interact via "love" either, but with gravity. This was clearly explained in the movie. Note the movie dealt with quantum mechanics, and things get really weird when it's involved. To me, love if anything served as a symbol more than anything else.

 

[Jaspertian1105]

The library is part of a closed timelike curve, that's been explained to you multiple times.

As for sassy AI's, that waa an homage to 2001, and I see no problem with AI's existing 50-100 years down the line.

Yeah what does that explanation even mean? that part is just absolute speculation/invention from the writers. Until someone goes through a black hole (which for some reason destroys a metal spaceship but the astronaut is intact) and sees what the hell goes inside there, that's all fiction.

You can explain it a million times and it still will be fiction, no matter if you hire an army of astrophysics, its still speculation and theories.

AIs are much more plausible but its theoretical as well

 

[HAMMER]

I think the prestige is his best movie, with memento. I prefer that he tones down the scifi, metaphysical ideas and goes back to small stories. I think that is his strength in realism, when he goes out of that way he stumbles and gets extremely convoluted

I too think his best films are Memento and Prestiege. David Bowie as Nikolai Tesla with Jackman was Nolan's best work. His pseudo sci-fi convoluted nonsense is way too pretentious for my tastes. I couldn't stand Inception after the second viewing, I'm waiting for Interstellar to hit Redbox.

 

[Phallic]

The mathematical models that account for many of the observations we have made with regards to the universe as well as General Relativity allows for what happened in the third act