Interstellar - Part 9

[BatLobster]

Lmao...priceless.

 

[Deserana]

Finally got to see it. As a huge Nolan fan I step into each film worrying if it will be the first to let me down (I like/LOVE all his films, including Following) but holy **** this was amazing. This was a director who just knows what he wants to put on screen, he really can tell a story! The editing, which I thought was a flaw of TDKR, was outstanding here IMO and it was gripping to the very last minute.

Did I get the last 30 minutes? Not all of it I must admit but that's the joy! I get to watch it again and figure it out. Plus it's not something we can say "That's unrealistic" cause ****knows what anything ever means or how anything works.

The film obviously had flaws. Whilst I didnt feel the dialogue was too exposition heavy (it sort of needed to be at times) it did have some clunkers. "It's impossible" "No it's necessary." doesn't even make sense. But none of the flaws are so overbearing that it even remotely detracts from the overall film.

Also I had absolutely no issues with sound in my IMAX showing. And this is someone who had slight issues with Bane. The only issue I had was that a beginning Murph scene was unnecessarily bass heavy but it didnt drown out a thing.

 

[Phallic]

Finally got to see it. As a huge Nolan fan I step into each film worrying if it will be the first to let me down (I like/LOVE all his films, including Following) but holy **** this was amazing. This was a director who just knows what he wants to put on screen, he really can tell a story! The editing, which I thought was a flaw of TDKR, was outstanding here IMO and it was gripping to the very last minute.

Did I get the last 30 minutes? Not all of it I must admit but that's the joy! I get to watch it again and figure it out. Plus it's not something we can say "That's unrealistic" cause ****knows what anything ever means or how anything works.

The film obviously had flaws. Whilst I didnt feel the dialogue was too exposition heavy (it sort of needed to be at times) it did have some clunkers. "It's impossible" "No it's necessary." doesn't even make sense. But none of the flaws are so overbearing that it even remotely detracts from the overall film.

Also I had absolutely no issues with sound in my IMAX showing. And this is someone who had slight issues with Bane. The only issue I had was that a beginning Murph scene was unnecessarily bass heavy but it didnt drown out a thing.

I actually agree about some of the clunky dialogue, but the "It's Necessary" line was one of my favorites

I'm glad you loved it though - it seems that the audience receptions has surpassed the critical reception (though it's almost at 76% on RT again)

Despite how troll infested IMDb is, surprisingly Interstellar is still sitting on a 9.0 at #11 on the Top 250 with almost 200,000 votes.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

I'm heavily undecided about the film.

When I came out of the cinema, I felt it had dragged a bit in places, that the 'on earth' parts of the story weren't engaging enough for the amount of weight they were given, and that there was something missing in terms of emotional connection and actual investment in the events/characters in film.

And yet...

I can't stop thinking about it. It's stuck in my head. Those beautiful shots of space, the trip through the black hole, the concepts of time and human life... yeah, the film has definitely stuck with me.

So I think it'll end up higher on the scale than I thought.

 

[lime]

I'm listening to the soundtrack right now and I have a question:

Spoiler

Where is the track when the station exploded and Cooper was ''docking'' ? That track is not in the soundtrack? I taught that it was going to be ''Coward'' but it is not.

 

[Phallic]

I'm listening to the soundtrack right now and I have a question:

Spoiler

Where is the track when the station exploded and Cooper was ''docking'' ? That track is not in the soundtrack? I taught that it was going to be ''Coward'' but it is not.

It's going to be a bonus track.

 

[lime]

It's going to be a bonus track.

Are you sure?

 

[BatLobster]

I actually agree about some of the clunky dialogue, but the "It's Necessary" line was one of my favorites

Yeah I loved that. I think someone here pointed out that it's impossible/it's necessary is kind of a summation of the movie/humanity leaving Earth.

Glad you enjoyed the movie though Deserana.

 

[Agent Orange]

Brand's love speech was clunkly (bless Anne for delivering it the way she did) but I think some people are missing the meaning behind it. Even Zelda Williams is complaining about it on Twitter. I don't think that it was ever meant to insinuate that "love" is some kind of "magic power" or anything like that. It's a lot like the "The connection matters" monologue from The Matrix Revolutions (it's executed better here).

 

[Phallic]

Are you sure?

Relatively. There's a bonus track called "Imperfect Lock" that's unreleased. I'd be surprised if they left such an important track out entirely.

 

[stlblues84]

It confused me when I first saw it. The whole thing that time is on a plane and not a straight line really screwed my brain. The cause can come before the effect is such brain short circuit, thus the time plane. The 5th dimension explanation really helped explain this. The video of NDT someone posted earlier is a very good, simple explanation.

NDT and Carl Sagan are two of my heroes for that very reason. I understand a lot of these concepts, but I'm such a visual learner and they bring that vision to a place that makes it really easy to understand.

 

[Phallic]

Brand's love speech was clunkly (bless Anne for delivering it the way she did) but I think some people are missing the meaning behind it. Even Zelda Williams is ranting about it on Twitter. I don't think that it was ever meant to insinuate that "love" is some kind of "magic power" or anything like that. It's a lot like the "The connection matters" monologue from

I agree. Her speech was probably one of my least favorite moments out of the film purely because it felt unnatural and awkward, but people are taking the whole "love" theme far more literally than I think it was intended to be. Ultimately, everything in the movie can be explained using hard science - it's not like love was this thing that broke the laws of physics in the movie.

And I don't have a huge problem with it as a theme in itself.

 

[Agent Orange]

Relatively. There's a bonus track called "Imperfect Lock" that's unreleased. I'd be surprised if they left such an important track out entirely.

Zimmer seems to be doing that lately. "Arcade" was an extremely important cue from Man of Steel but you had to get the two-disc set for it.

 

[BatLobster]

I feel like the movie was trying to thematically link love and gravity in some way. Maybe? It's interesting...need to watch it more to assess that though.

 

[Agent Orange]

I feel like the movie was trying to thematically link love and gravity in some way. Maybe? It's interesting...need to watch it more to assess that though.

Cooper just knew that Murph would go back for the watch.

TARS - "But how do you know?"

Cooper - "Because I gave it to her."

Or something like that.

It was just a feeling that he had based on their connection to one another. It recalls Saito's "Leap of faith" stuff from Inception. Nolan has a lot of obsessions. lol

 

[lime]

Relatively. There's a bonus track called "Imperfect Lock" that's unreleased. I'd be surprised if they left such an important track out entirely.

Yeah "Imperfect Lock" sounds like it's exactly that scene.

Shame, I was waiting the soundtrack mainly for that track

I hope it is released soon.

 

[Phallic]

I feel like the movie was trying to thematically link love and gravity in some way. Maybe? It's interesting...need to watch it more to assess that though.

I didn't feel like it was. I took the "Love is the only thing that transcends time and space" to be more metaphorical than literal.

 

[AnneFan]

Anne did a great job with the speech. I didn't think it was anywhere near the John Blake speech in TDKR. It read it quite simply as love is eternal and timeless even in the dead of space. As a character in a recent Doctor Who episode said, “I don’t have a phone and I know my mom is worried about me." You don't have to talk to communicate.

 

[DA_Champion]

Anyone else surprised slumcat isn't all over the thread rating this movie a 2/10?

 

[stlblues84]

Cooper just knew that Murph would go back for the watch.

TARS - "But how do you know?"

Cooper - "Because I gave it to her."

Or something like that.

It was just a feeling that he had based on their connection to one another. It recalls Saito's "Leap of faith" stuff from Inception. Nolan has a lot of obsessions. lol

I totally forgot about that line...the "because I gave it to her."

It reminded me of a conversation I had at work. It's a fairly young office that has only a few parents in it. But, one of my coworkers has a teenage daughter.

We got onto the subject of unconditional love one day at work (don't even remember how, it was months ago). Anyway, he tells us, "My daughter is the only person in the world that I unconditionally love. More than my wife, my parents, etc. She could be convicted of murder, and I would still have the same love I do now."

That now strikes a chord with me. Probably a reason that some fathers in particular will have a different reaction to this movie. Cooper knew that the unconditional love between himself and his daughter transcends time and space because it is unconditional. Even abandoning her doesn't change their love for one another.

 

[CapedCrusader14]

Just started listening to the official score.

It's just as beautiful as I remembered it being during the film.

 

[DA_Champion]

Anne did a great job with the speech. I didn't think it was anywhere near the John Blake speech in TDKR. It read it quite simply as love is eternal and timeless even in the dead of space. As a character in a recent Doctor Who episode said, “I don’t have a phone and I know my mom is worried about me." You don't have to talk to communicate.

I think people are tsking Amelia Brand's sppech too literally. They think it means that love really is some superpower.

No, what it means is that Amelia is desperately motivated by love and really wants to see her lover again which is driving her to BS metaphysics in spite of her education, because, you know, she's human. If there's a deeper meaning here , it is that love is the most powerful force in human behaviour.

She closes the conversation by challenging Cooper to be this rational when it cones to his daughter.

 

[Deserana]

Cooper just knew that Murph would go back for the watch.

TARS - "But how do you know?"

Cooper - "Because I gave it to her."

Or something like that.

It was just a feeling that he had based on their connection to one another. It recalls Saito's "Leap of faith" stuff from Inception. Nolan has a lot of obsessions. lol

Get ready for comparisons to John Blake feeling it in his bones and stuff.

Brand's love speech was clunkly (bless Anne for delivering it the way she did) but I think some people are missing the meaning behind it. Even Zelda Williams is complaining about it on Twitter. I don't think that it was ever meant to insinuate that "love" is some kind of "magic power" or anything like that. It's a lot like the "The connection matters" monologue from The Matrix Revolutions (it's executed better here).

I didn't mind the love speech. It was a little over-worded but I got what they were saying. It also tied directly into the ending.

Yeah I loved that. I think someone here pointed out that it's impossible/it's necessary is kind of a summation of the movie/humanity leaving Earth.

Glad you enjoyed the movie though Deserana.

The more I think about it now the more it sits right with me.

Spoiler

As for the fifth dimension I havent been in this thread but what's the most popular theory about it all?

 

[Phallic]

Get ready for comparisons to John Blake feeling it in his bones and stuff.


I didn't mind the love speech. It was a little over-worded but I got what they were saying. It also tied directly into the ending.



The more I think about it now the more it sits right with me.

Spoiler

As for the fifth dimension I havent been in this thread but what's the most popular theory about it all?

Spoiler

It was placed there by future humans. NDT said it well when he said the whole reason we can travel within 3D space is because we live in a 4D world (where the 4th dimension is time). Therefore, we could travel through time in a 5D world similar to how we can transverse a canyon or climb a mountain (a quote I believe Brand made in the movie). Essentially, since gravity is a force that can possibly stretch through time and space according to some physical theories, the tesseract was a way for Cooper to relay a message into the past.

I particularly loved how the hand of the watch that he was manipulating was stretched out vertically which explains why it was perpetually moving - he was manipulating it throughout time simultaneously.

 

[stlblues84]

Spoiler

As for the fifth dimension I havent been in this thread but what's the most popular theory about it all?

I don't know if it's the most popular, but it's mine:

Spoiler

After Cooper went through the black hole and appeared by Saturn, 70 something years have passed. However, Brand, due to passing alongside the black hole and now on a planet near a black hole, time has hardly passed for her.

When Murph tells Coop to go to Brand, I believe he is meant to go there so as to advance the human race to a point where they can understand the 5th dimension and create the wormhole in the past so Cooper can go through it eventually go into the library dimension. Basically a stable loop. Even though it has been 70 years that Brand has been gone, she has probably only been on Edmund planet for a couple of days.