The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Jamie Foxx IS Electro - Part 4

[Picard Sisko]

Prequels

 

[Neno_Kos]

Star Wars reference, but in reverse

 

[Picard Sisko]

Star Wars reference, but in reverse

Haha I figured.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Wasn't a fan of Max Dillon in the end. He was too deluded. Once he became Electro he was great though. I liked his plan to deprive NYC of power with him being worshipped for giving it to them, but I didn't think they displayed it well enough.

Spoiler

Hope he comes back.

 

[The Joker]

Electro is hands down the weakest villain of the Spidey movies, IMO. Bar none.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

I think I'd have to agree on that. Largely because he wasn't really that sympathetic, which I guess sort of broke the mould in the Spidey films.

Yeah, he was an outcast and no one remembered him, but he was already a bit psychopathic before the torture, but it made his descent into villainy more evil. Despite having less screentime, Harry worked better overall I think.

But still, I think being the weakest of a strong bunch is still pretty damn good.

EDIT- Actually, y'know what? Venom is worse, I think.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Probably the most powerful imo.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Max being how he is helps makes sense to why he would become a villain

 

[UltimateWebhead]

Probably the most powerful imo.

Do you mean 'most powerful' as in his powers are the most lethal and/or destructive or do you mean it as a reference to his characterization? Meaning his arc (no pun intended) is very noteworthy.

 

[Em Dee]

Max being how he is helps makes sense to why he would become a villain

Spoiler

From what I've seen in the clips, Max thinks Peter set him up by getting him shot, and he takes the focus away from him. In a clip it cuts to Peter on every video board and Max says "You're so selfish"

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Max being how he is helps makes sense to why he would become a villain

I thought so. he wanted to be loved and felt betrayed and lashed out with powers he coulnd't yet control. in a different situation i see him not becoming a villain.

Even his plan later fit his character.

Do you mean 'most powerful' as in his powers are the most lethal and/or destructive or do you mean it as a reference to his characterization? Meaning his arc (no pun intended) is very noteworthy.

Most lethal.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

It's a shame he's a giant waste of space, apparently. Foxx is a more than capable actor to have pulled off a solid villain role.

 

[webhead731]

I just don't see why it couldn't be just Jamie Foxx. Not, gap-tooth, comb-over, high water pants, glasses, pocket protector, Urkeled up Jamie Foxx. Like, he looks like a complete joke. You can make him a loser by writing him as one and doing it well, you don't need to visually use every cliche in the book. He also, according to Foxx, reviewers, clips etc, comes off as the type where the viewer is just like "....really? That is your issue?"
I mean Spider-Man doesn't remember your name? Boo hoo. Mom forgot your birthday? Bummer. You want to go out and be a villain now? Oh.
I understand there are screwy people like that in the world probably, but that does not mean they make good or interesting movie characters.

I would rather he just look like a fairly normal, well-dressed and well mannered guy who may get bullied a bit, has no relationship, doesn't do anything social really, but you relate to him and like him. Like Peter Parker. But maybe he has some screws loose too. Maybe Oscorp really mistreats him and finally screws him over, like big time. And he ends up resenting them for it and has is accident (something better than eelectro) and then takes it out on all of them. Spider-Man intervenes, and that pisses him off even more because maybe he thinks Spider-Man should be helping him.

I don't know. Not perfect but I like my idea I just pulled out of my ass more than what I have been hearing and seeing.
They should have given Electro his own movie, introduced Harry, introduced Norman, kept Rhino and Goblin away, and cut all that bull**** for Venom, Ock, Vulture and God knows what else. Just REALLY develop Max, make us get him, and make a great villain.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

....That actually doesn't sound too bad.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Agreed about his goofy look. In the movie he is quite nutty, like verging on split-personality disorder

They should have given Electro his own movie, introduced Harry, introduced Norman, kept Rhino and Goblin away, and cut all that bull**** for Venom, Ock, Vulture and God knows what else. Just REALLY develop Max, make us get him, and make a great villain.

Rhino and the Venom Ock ect.. stuff didn't get in the way of developing Electro. Goblin and some other stuff took time away that, i agree could've gone to developing a better motivation for Max.

But overall it's a good thing to have a villain who isn't an independant main guy for a change but one who is naturally a lackey to another. Look at Mystique, she's not main she's a henchmen but she works really well as that.

 

[webhead731]

Does this movie explain how the gap in his teeth disappears after he becomes Electro?

 

[AF3619]

Does this movie explain how the gap in his teeth disappears after he becomes Electro?

actually it does show how the gap closes

 

[webhead731]

Really?

 

[AF3619]

Really?

yup

 

[Nathan]

I just don't see why it couldn't be just Jamie Foxx. Not, gap-tooth, comb-over, high water pants, glasses, pocket protector, Urkeled up Jamie Foxx. Like, he looks like a complete joke. You can make him a loser by writing him as one and doing it well, you don't need to visually use every cliche in the book. He also, according to Foxx, reviewers, clips etc, comes off as the type where the viewer is just like "....really? That is your issue?"
I mean Spider-Man doesn't remember your name? Boo hoo. Mom forgot your birthday? Bummer. You want to go out and be a villain now? Oh.
I understand there are screwy people like that in the world probably, but that does not mean they make good or interesting movie characters.

I would rather he just look like a fairly normal, well-dressed and well mannered guy who may get bullied a bit, has no relationship, doesn't do anything social really, but you relate to him and like him. Like Peter Parker. But maybe he has some screws loose too. Maybe Oscorp really mistreats him and finally screws him over, like big time. And he ends up resenting them for it and has is accident (something better than eelectro) and then takes it out on all of them. Spider-Man intervenes, and that pisses him off even more because maybe he thinks Spider-Man should be helping him.

I don't know. Not perfect but I like my idea I just pulled out of my ass more than what I have been hearing and seeing.
They should have given Electro his own movie, introduced Harry, introduced Norman, kept Rhino and Goblin away, and cut all that bull**** for Venom, Ock, Vulture and God knows what else. Just REALLY develop Max, make us get him, and make a great villain.

Honestly, I prefer your way much more. Jamie's Electro was terrific, but Max was just way too silly. I too would have preferred him as a regular guy, that gets mistreated and taken advantage of at every turn. And his hate and resentment just keeps bottling up inside. And when he turns into Electro, he just explodes.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Max only had like 10-15 minutes of screentime, right? Oh well. At least his Electro was good, and we'll get to see him again in a future movie.

 

[The Joker]

His Electro wasn't good. He's the worst villain of all the Spidey movies, IMO. Bar none. Visually he's cool, but character wise he's just a pathetic fool who [blackout]is defeated with a fire hose and captured 5 minutes after meeting Spidey. He's then locked up until the climax of the movie where's busted out and plays lackey to Harry.[/blackout]

There is nothing impressive about this character beyond some visual aspects. His dialogue is mainly atrocious and corny.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Thing is I think he is supposed to be nothing more than Harry's lackey. It was just terrible that they marketed him as the main villain and that sort of screws with people's expectations. It should NOT be called "TASM2: Rise of Electro."

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

He was only just transformed in his first battle and didn't use half of his powers yet. Being defeated early was no surprise.

I didn't see him as Harry's Lackey. It was a tit for tat situation. Harry freed him and Electro repayed the debt by getting him into Oscorp, after that they go their seperate ways.

 

[Joe_Kickass]

Agreed about his goofy look. In the movie he is quite nutty, like verging on split-personality disorder



Rhino and the Venom Ock ect.. stuff didn't get in the way of developing Electro. Goblin and some other stuff took time away that, i agree could've gone to developing a better motivation for Max.

But overall it's a good thing to have a villain who isn't an independant main guy for a change but one who is naturally a lackey to another. Look at Mystique, she's not main she's a henchmen but she works really well as that.

But Mystique has never been promoted as THE villian in any of the X-Men movies.

Bryan Singer has never directly stated in an interview, unlike another director we all know, that Mystique is the focused obstacle of the movie. It wasn't just promotion, Webb specifically stated it, and apparently lied.

People also can't just excuse Electro by saying "Oh, he was basically like this in the comics" because that just points out the fact how undeveloped of a character he is in general, no matter the medium.

If you're going to choose to use a B-tier underdeveloped character as the main antagonist in your movie, you better flesh his a** out.