The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Jamie Foxx IS Electro - Part 4

[ironman_rick]

Only question regarding electro .....Does lots and lots of electricity fix someone's teeth ? t:

Cos when

Spoiler

Max was being electrocuted by the eels they showed his teeth being straighten......

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Yes, it does actually. Go bite onto an electrical wire, bet your teeth will look great.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Its a shame Foxx and/or Webb couldnt really decide what they wanted Electro to be in this movie. In the early parts, even as Electro, he was comical but not in a good way, thankfully he becomes more menacing in the end. But I never felt much of a threat from towards Peter either, which is obviously a big problem for a supposedly main villain.

 

[Streetlight]

Its a shame Foxx and/or Webb couldnt really decide what they wanted Electro to be in this movie. In the early parts, even as Electro, he was comical but not in a good way, thankfully he becomes more menacing in the end. But I never felt much of a threat from towards Peter either, which is obviously a big problem for a supposedly main villain.

I think the Times Square scene had a lot to do with that. Spider-man win was very sudden and easy. Although seeing him helping out Harry helped make him more of a threat

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I think the Times Square scene had a lot to do with that. Spider-man win was very sudden and easy. Although seeing him helping out Harry helped make him more of a threat

The TS scene was just strange, he was destroying buildings one minute, and getting taken out by a hose the next, it just didnt all seem to fit in.

At the end he didnt really hurt Spiderman either, his power levels were all over the place.

 

[The Joker]

Seeing him help Harry made him feel more like a lackey. Harry was doing all the talking and getting the cool dialogue in that Oscorp raid scene, making the demands, while Electro just stood there mute.

I don't know how anyone could rate him as highly as a villain. Apart from some cool visuals, he was a total misfire. They certainly did not need an actor of Foxx's caliber to play the hammy goofy performance they did with the character.

 

[ironman_rick]

BTW...the way electro re-generated at ravencroft reminded me of Dr manhattan

 

[UltimateWebhead]

Seeing him help Harry made him feel more like a lackey. Harry was doing all the talking and getting the cool dialogue in that Oscorp raid scene, making the demands, while Electro just stood there mute.

I don't know how anyone could rate him as highly as a villain. Apart from some cool visuals, he was a total misfire. They certainly did not need an actor of Foxx's caliber to play the hammy goofy performance they did with the character.

I can't argue the points you've stated with Max/Electro...still another 2 weeks before I see the film

However, Electro should be appearing in future films so imo it was good to land Foxx in the role. Assuming he returns for the follow-up uses of the character, it'll be nice to have that kind of caliber on screen. Though if they continue to under use him, that'd be a real head scratcher.

 

[Nathan]

Seeing him help Harry made him feel more like a lackey.

Though he really wasn't. It was a "I help you. You help me." deal. He got Harry in, then went off to do his own thing.

Harry was doing all the talking and getting the cool dialogue in that Oscorp raid scene, making the demands, while Electro just stood there mute.

I guess it was because he didn't really care about what was going on. Though he could have some nice lines. But I guess scenes like the finger flick were enough to get people to shut up in the situation.

I don't know how anyone could rate him as highly as a villain. Apart from some cool visuals, he was a total misfire. They certainly did not need an actor of Foxx's caliber to play the hammy goofy performance they did with the character.

No argument about the goofy parts of his performance. They could have definitely done a better job with Max. But I really loved Jamie's performance as Electro. His rebirth, discovery of his powers, the feeling of betrayal, his anger, I thought Jamie pulled that off really well.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

BTW...the way electro re-generated at ravencroft reminded me of Dr manhattan

Same here, thought of Dr Manhatten straight away in that scene.

I can't argue the points you've stated with Max/Electro...still another 2 weeks before I see the film

However, Electro should be appearing in future films so imo it was good to land Foxx in the role. Assuming he returns for the follow-up uses of the character, it'll be nice to have that kind of caliber on screen. Though if they continue to under use him, that'd be a real head scratcher.

Will Foxx come back though? He doesnt seem to be into the practice of doing sequels, and I always thought he was only going to be in this movie and then that was it.

 

[Nathan]

Will Foxx come back though? He doesnt seem to be into the practice of doing sequels, and I always thought he was only going to be in this movie and then that was it.

Spoiler

Didn't he already let it slip that Electro wouldn't die? Saying in interviews like "Electricity never disappears. It just goes somewhere else." Or something similar. I don't know the direct quote. I really hope he comes back. While his Max was way too goofy, I thought his Electro was really menacing. I definitely want him back.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

Will Foxx come back though? He doesnt seem to be into the practice of doing sequels, and I always thought he was only going to be in this movie and then that was it.

I've no idea. I said "assuming he returns..." but you never know. He could come back and if Arad/Sony really pursue him like they pursued Webb, there's a good chance. Did Electro really die though?? "Electricity never dies, it just goes to a different place" or something to that effect, as quoted by Foxx.

 

[The Joker]

Though he really wasn't. It was a "I help you. You help me." deal. He got Harry in, then went off to do his own thing.

I know, but it still made him feel like that. Harry broke him out, Harry directed him in Oscorp, Harry told him to go on the grid. Harry did all the talking and direction.

Even the whole "You need me. YOU NEED ME" he kept saying to Harry made him look even more pathetic and needy for Harry. Never once did it feel like a partnership between the two. Even the whole Electro attacking the city power grid was just a ploy to lure Spider-Man out to make him bleed so Harry could get his blood. That was Harry's idea, too.

I guess it was because he didn't really care about what was going on. Though he could have some nice lines. But I guess scenes like the finger flick were enough to get people to shut up in the situation.

He was like brawn to the brain villain, like in the James Bond movies. Oddjob to Harry's Goldfinger only 50 times less cool and memorable than Oddjob. Stands there silently providing the muscle while the villain spews the cool dialogue.

This was supposed to be our "main" villain, too, according to Webb.

No argument about the goofy parts of his performance. They could have definitely done a better job with Max. But I really loved Jamie's performance as Electro. His rebirth, discovery of his powers, the feeling of betrayal, his anger, I thought Jamie pulled that off really well.

Between the goofy acting and horrible music that accompanied the character, I couldn't take him seriously. The apartment scene, and the Times Squares scene are the two most painful scenes to watch for me.

Awful.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

This was supposed to be our "main" villain, too, according to Webb.

Another thing I don't quite understand. Why would Webb say this, if it isn't the case?

 

[The Infernal]

It's a shame they didn't just go with Electro being more confident and vengeful after his rebirth. Him being Harry's henchman just sort of reinforced the creepy nerd caricature he was before his accident.

If Foxx were to return at some point then I would hope that as well as being a better written part that Foxx could help steer the character in a better direction and not just be a retread of TASM2.

 

[Nathan]

Ultimately, I think it's probably for the best that Electro still comes across like a loser, even if he was marketed as the main villain. Electro's whole deal in the comics is that he could actually be god like. He has the powers, but always comes up short, because he ultimately is just a loser. He'd be a hard opponent to beat, and of Spidey's entire rogues gallery the highest threat, if he had the ambition and mind, of say someone like Dr. Doom.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Being a loser is fine. Webhead731 posted a good way to make Electro a loser and have ties to Oscorp, and it wasn't half bad. That's not the problem. However, "the gap-toothed, comb-over-glasses hanging off my nose" crap was taking it into a literal caricature of a nerd, and apparently he wasn't even that good when he turned into a villain.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Some of us have been saying, to the dismay of the cool-aid drinkers, that Fox characterization of Max was going to week, foundationless, with no real mature motivation. Jump a needy nerd who been scorned. "My mother forgot my birthday, so Spidey got to pay", BS. A waste of Foxx talent, and terribly mis-casted. Either let Foxx do what he does best, which is stereo-typing what one would think of a black criminal with a real motivation, maybe having some ties to Oscorps, or cast someone white whom most think of when one perceive a nerdy, social outcast, genus, with a comb-over....Come On Man!

Anyway, I know many of you will flame me for what I'm saying, cause some of you wants to give the aura of being PC....but PC is the reason this characterization didn't work.

 

[Picard Sisko]

I heard that the whole "my mom forgot my birthday thing" isn't even in the movie.

 

[Alex_Spider]

Some of us have been saying, to the dismay of the cool-aid drinkers, that Fox characterization of Max was going to week, foundationless, with no real mature motivation. Jump a needy nerd who been scorned. "My mother forgot my birthday, so Spidey got to pay", BS. A waste of Foxx talent, and terribly mis-casted. Either let Foxx do what he does best, which is stereo-typing what one would think of a black criminal with a real motivation, maybe having some ties to Oscorps, or cast someone white whom most think of when one perceive a nerdy, social outcast, genus, with a comb-over....Come On Man!

Anyway, I know many of you will flame me for what I'm saying, cause some of you wants to give the aura of being PC....but PC is the reason this characterization didn't work.

Yeah, a type of low level thug would be so much better. And something we haven't got in the previous movies.

 

[Picard Sisko]

How many scenes does Max Dillon have before turning into Electro?

 

[A Necessary Evil]

I heard that the whole "my mom forgot my birthday thing" isn't even in the movie.

Yep, Joker confirmed it didn't happen in the final film. But still, you gotta at least agree, Max Dillion's look was a little too much.

 

[Picard Sisko]

I don't really have an issue with the look all that much, but they could have perhaps avoided the gap in the front teeth or the combover. They could have toned it down a bit I suppose.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Yeah, a type of low level thug would be so much better. And something we haven't got in the previous movies.

Exactly...whom have intelligence, streetwise, and connections...that's already a bad dude, as oppose to an upright, successful citizen that is forced to become bad, because of an unfortunate accident that turns him into something unacceptable to the human race.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Exactly. Glasses didn't bother me at all, but the other parts did. Plus, you can tell Max is a fairly buffed kinda guy by looking at his arms lol.