Justice League Status Updates Thread

[Red Mask]

Please no. I have never been so bored by 7 superheroes fighting the most powerful being in the universe.

Yeah. Besides, they could never touch the most powerful being in the universe much less Lucifer from Vertigo.

 

[Lencho01]

Goyer's Flash would have had Ryan Reynolds as Wally West taking over after Barry's death. It would have been darker and get more into the science side of things while also touching on the legacy aspect of the character and been inspired by the runs by Mark Waid and Geoff Johns.

Outside of Reynolds being the character, I knew nothing of it.

I did know that the Flash film that could've come out after JLM was going to deal with Wally trying to live up to the legacy Barry would've left after dying in that film.

Based on what we saw in The Social Network, I'd disagree. He looks more in line with the age of the DCAU Robin than Batman.

He was way too young then for Batman.

Depends on how old and how far into his career you wanted Batman to be. He looked older than 21 to me, which I think was his age that time.

 

[Rockstar]

Audiences already have an image of Batman at the beginning of his career.

It's Christian Bale playing the Year One Batman, starting his career at 30.

 

[protocida]

People don't pay that much attention. It's Batman. If he looks like an adult - which Hammer does - then they'll be fine with it.

 

[echostation]

Armie is built to play some sort of superhero and he's really talented... I hope he plays maybe Batman in Batman year one or maybe the Flash? or something

 

[Rockstar]

People don't pay that much attention. It's Batman. If he looks like an adult - which Hammer does - then they'll be fine with it.

You'd be surprised.


Bale won the GA over. He's become the public image of Batman and Bruce Wayne to general audiences.

Armie Hammer would have looked like a goof in comparison. Especially with JL:M coming out after TDK.

Armie is built to play some sort of superhero and he's really talented... I hope he plays maybe Batman in Batman year one or maybe the Flash? or something

I'm sure Marvel will get him for something if his career picks up.

 

[protocida]

You give Bale too much credit. He didn't really "become" the face of Batman. Most people don't see a picture of him in another movie and go "Hey, that's Batman", partially because Batman is always fully masked.

 

[SpitCurl]

I think DC should make a JLA full length CG animated movie. Not a straight to video, but a theater movie. They could style it how they want, on a scale of realistic to super cartoony. And cast whoever they want as the characters. They don't even have to look the part, or be the right age. You could cast Belluci to voice Wonder Woman, some people say she is too old for the part. You could cast an actor who is too young to voice Flash. etc. They could even use motion capture like Tin Tin. Tin Tin, Incredibles, are great examples of what the movie should be like.
And that could help launch spin offs too, show the desire for a Wonder Woman movie or tv show when the Wonder Woman merchandise keeps getting sold out. Or the Flash could get his own movie finally. (Live action for both I would imagine.)

They could also make the story as grand scale as they want. Maybe Mongol attacks Earth, using Starro he enslaves large numbers of the population, and the JLA must save the day.
You could be as elaborate as you want with the powers. Martian Manhunter could alter his shape in three different ways in 5 seconds while blasting lasers from his eyes and flying only to be stopped cold in a second by fire.

In cartoons people are more forgiving, more accepting of things looking silly. So their brightly colored costumes wouldn't look strange. Flash, Superman, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and Batman could standing next to the president and guys in shirts and pants and not look silly.

Not much worry about face time I think, so you don't have to worry about Flash, GL, or Batman having to take off their masks to show the actors real faces.

And it would set it apart from the Avengers live action movie. People will be less likely to say DC was copying Marvel's Avengers with their JLA film if the movie is animated.

Holy s**t, that's uncanny. I posted something similar a week or so ago in the Superman Open Discussion thread that kinda got buried there, but we were basically on the same page:

I think there's a (relatively) easy way to get a JLA film up and running that would be both ground-breaking and yet visualy striking and distinctive enough that it would clearly exist in its own universe so as not to confuse the GA or go against Nolan's wishes (as much as WB might care).

I've had this image in my head for a while, a bit tricky to explain properly, of something akin to an Alex-Ross painting come to life (I say "akin" to because, while I appreciate the guys art his use of costumes and body-types evokes an odd cosplay vibe that wouldn't work here). I look at what Weta did with Tin Tin and what ILM (along with Weta, I believe) is doing with Hulk and I think you can get away with truly humanoid characters now, especially if A) all the characters and the world they inhabit are CG, and B) your character designs are just exaggerated enough as not to fall into Uncanny Valley territory.

The whole "dead-eye" thing doesn't seem to be as much of a problem, and mo-cap would be perfect, since just like with animation you can cast for the best peformance, not the physical resemblance and still get the realism of movement and facial expression. Also, nothing in an all CG world will stand out as "too unbelievable". You've already distanced this world away from ours enough that Batman and SUperman can exist together, no problem.

You can get away with costumes that are as faithful to the comic as you like because neither fabric nor phyique is a problem, the display of powers will be seamless because everything's already a special-effect, and you can trully go BIG in scale and scope. Bring on Darkseid.

Yet on the flip-side, you've created a photo-real world that's familiar enough to the human eye that you aren't simply watching some direct-to-DVD DC film. You can actually feel this world exists. Now I doubt DC would ever take a gamble like that, but to me it's their best shot at getting a team-up film off the ground without seeming like a cynical cash-grab if Avenger's succeeds wildly, and it also won't step on any live-action toes.

The odds are about 1 to infinity against that anybody in a position to actual make this sort of movie happen will have or has had a similar thought, but here's hoping t:

 

[Rockstar]

I disagree. As far as the general audience goes, especially after the billion dollar gross of The Dark Knight, Bale = Batman.

Just as the Joker = Ledger. They both wore 'masks' per say, but they're both currently associated with those characters.


If someone was going to play the character that Bale was associated with, he should have been 10 times more awesome and badass than CB ever was. Armie Hammer isn't that person. He doesn't even come close.

He was completely miscast, like pretty much the entire JL:M cast.

 

[protocida]

^ You say that with a lot of convinction with nothing to base on.

If I recall correctly, Heath Ledger was met with equally harsh criticism over his selection. If not harsher, and, as you said, he has now become the face of the Joker in the 21st Century.

I understand that you might think Hammer wouldn't be as good as Bale, but there's nothing to AFFIRM that. Hammer could have blown everyone out of the water, especially since the movie's representation of Batman is rather different than Bale's.

 

[Rockstar]

How could Hammer have possibly blown Bale's version out of the water?

The JLM script was horrid. The cast was terrible. WB tossed the director of Happy Feet behind it.

And Hammer has proven to be mixed-mediocre in his subsequent movies.



There really isn't much to support that this would have turned out well.

 

[DarkSovereignty]

'the director of happy feet'...f***ing seriously? never mind the rest of his filmography. like, oh idk, the mad max trilogy? twilight zone? never mind the fact that happy feet was great, but he had more than proven himself at that point.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Hammer proved to be mediocre? He got nothing but acclaim for Social Network and J. Edgar. Also, you never read the JLM script and Happy Feet has nothing to do with anything.

 

[Rockstar]

I know about the Mad Max trilogy, but Miller had nothing recent under his belt that proves he could handle a project like this.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004306/


There was a studio script in play and they just needed a director. It was the same situation as Green Lantern and Campbell, except Campbell had a more relevant resume. Didn't help much though.

 

[HighFivingMF]

You know what the only movie that would have proved whether or not he could handle Justice League was? Justice League.

 

[Rockstar]

Hammer proved to be mediocre? He got nothing but acclaim for Social Network and J. Edgar. Also, you never read the JLM script and Happy Feet has nothing to do with anything.

Parts and reviews of the script were posted in the old JL forum back then.

It was pretty much DC's version of Fantastic Four... well until we got Green Lantern.

It was uber comic-booky.


And neither of Hammer's performances proved he could come anywhere close to blowing Bale's Batman out of the water. That's a major reach.


He's an uneven actor. Can't wait to see the 'acclaim' Hammer's Mirror Mirror performance gets.

 

[protocida]

Wait, now being "comic-booky" is a bad thing? I did wonders for Marvel Studios and they several franchises.

And using Mirror, Mirror to bring Hammer's body of work down is a pretty weak argument. Or are we safe to assume that all acclaimed actors doing over the top pieces of work in kids movies are **** by default. Are you saying Robert DeNiro, for once, is a PROVEN bad actor because he did a few family and comedy movies where he was loud and unsubtle?

 

[Rockstar]

Comicbook-y in the vein of Fantastic Four as I mentioned above. GL came off the same way. It was garbage.

All the insiders and those in the studio knew JL:M reeked of epic fail. One of WB's smartest decisions was canning it.

I still remember everyone's lack of surprise when CHUD announced that JL:M was scrapped. It was no surprise at all.

 

[protocida]

The Script was nowhere near in tone as Fantastic Four and Green Lantern. And the "lack of surprise" you mention comes from the fact that filming was delayed three times because of the WGA's strike, the tax issue with the Australian government and the scouting of new locations when the problem couldn't be resolved.

The movie had such problems that it became clear it wouldn't be happening on the intented schedule, but none of them concerned the overall basis of the story and the cast. Yes, the studio did want rewrites to scale down the massive budget, but that's mandatory in all superhero movies.

 

[DarkSovereignty]

Hammer was actually one of the better things about mirror, mirror, which i still defend as being no where near as bad as people make it out to be.

 

[Rockstar]

The Script was nowhere near in tone as Fantastic Four and Green Lantern.

http://www.eyesskyward.com/forum/showthread.php?921-Breakdown-of-the-cancelled-Justice-League-script

 

[HighFivingMF]

http://www.eyesskyward.com/forum/showthread.php?921-Breakdown-of-the-cancelled-Justice-League-script

And a few posts down.

I have read a break down of the rewritten version by George Miller and it sounds MUCH better than this...

 

[protocida]

^ That review doesn't really do it justice.

 

[ЯɘvlveR]

it would have been hard to top that bale's bats crackhead rasp.

 

[MadVillainy]

does anyone have a copy of that David Goyer Flash script