The Dark Knight Rises Life after Nolan: What comes next... - Part 1 Unless it's actually Part 2...o - Part 2

[HighFivingMF]

Deadshot is already in jail after the events of Gotham Knights

Ignore it.

 

[Lord]

Probably, i think that even Nolan didn't care for that and if he wanted to use deadshot he would have had no problem inplaying it as if gotham knights never happened

 

[terry78]

Regarding Clayface, if they don't plan on going balls out with him, don't even do it. I mean the shapeshifting monster, not just a master of disguise.

 

[Lord]

Making him a master of disguise in his first appearance could make a very interesting movie

 

[terry78]

It would be accurate to the original books, but I want to see Batman actually deal with a more sci-fi based villain.

 

[Rodrigo90]

The Basil Karlo Clayface would've worked in Nolan's films. Just some regular dude in a mask...ugh.

In these new Batfilms, the world has to be scientifically advanced. It has to be intertwined with the supernatural (WW) and the sci fi elements (MOS).

The franchise being connected to MOS will certainly do it.

 

[Lord]

Now this won't happen, neither do i want it to happen, but if they decided to reboot with another origin story which villains should be used, now this is just a hipetetic question.
If they decided to make another origin story who should be the vilain or villains?
Red Hood? Mr Freeze? The Riddler? Clayface? Hugo Strange?
Who would you choose

 

[Travesty]

Do you mean Joker-Red Hood, or Jason Todd-Red Hood?

 

[Lord]

Do you mean Joker-Red Hood, or Jason Todd-Red Hood?

Joker red hood, but he doesn't even get a mini series about batman's period of fighting the original red hood so i don't think he would be even used on film.
But continuing with the hypotetic question.
If they decided to make the reboot an origin story again which villain should be used?

 

[Rodrigo90]

I wouldn't imagine it to be an origin film. But references and flashbacks to Batman's past could work.

 

[the amazing fro]

I'd love to see Riddler to be in the next movie and be portrayed in a fresh and interesting manner that I don't think he has been for years in the comics. He's a great character and has oodles of potential but very few people seem able to utilize him in a intriguing manner.

Also since (I imagine) Bane is being redeemed in TDKR after the mess of B&R, I'd love for someone to take a shot at doing Freeze. Another Villain with loads of potential but never quite lived up to it (in the comics at least).

 

[Lord]

I wouldn't imagine it to be an origin film. But references and flashbacks to Batman's past could work.

I know they're not going to do it again.
But hypotetically, if they did. Who would you choose?

 

[ron1705]

I'd choose Hugo Strange as a villain and add Robin as well. Create parallels between Robin and Batman (parents murdered etc.) and parallels between Robin and Hugo Strange as they would both be fascinated by Batman and the way he fights crime (ofcourse one would know who he is and doesn't).

Freeze and Bane were messed up in one movie, but Robin was messed up in TWO movies. That's just sad.

 

[TheBatman072]

I wouldn't imagine it to be an origin film. But references and flashbacks to Batman's past could work.

They could probably adapt the second half of Dark Victory.

That included Robin's origin, which also had parallels to Bruce as a child.

It worked really well, even though Robin's inclusion in the book completely changed the tone for me.

 

[Lord]

I'd choose Hugo Strange as a villain and add Robin as well. Create parallels between Robin and Batman (parents murdered etc.) and parallels between Robin and Hugo Strange as they would both be fascinated by Batman and the way he fights crime (ofcourse one would know who he is and doesn't).

Freeze and Bane were messed up in one movie, but Robin was messed up in TWO movies. That's just sad.

I like that idea and i hope that if they decide to change Nolan's batman origin then that could be very interesting.
But if the movie was a origin story a la year one again, without being only shoun in flash backs of a fully fledged Batman or Robin.
I fthey pratically decided to do the same as Batman Begins did.
Which villain would you choose?

 

[ron1705]

I fthey pratically decided to do the same as Batman Begins did.
Which villain would you choose?

Very tough question. I think I would go for Black Mask/Roman Sionis because the parallels to Bruce Wayne are so easy to make. Maybe I'd add Hush/Thomas Elliot in as well. They could be childhood friends, with only one who has a happy family that gets taken away from him (Bruce) while the other two have terrible families that hide behind their 'masks' while in public (families they will eventually reject, often in a horrible way). Bruce, Roman and Thomas could serve as a sort of mirror for the alliance Batman, Gordon and Harvey Dent have later on. Eventually all of them become 'symbols', not always for the better. The main idea would be that there is always more going on behind the mask: Batman is a symbol but he's also just a man wearing a mask fighting crime, the Sionis and Elliot families were people that hid behind masks in social conventions while they were terrible people in private, the police are symbols for protection while apart from Gordon most are corrupt and while Harvey wouldn't become Two-Face yet he would have some psychological problems of his own.

That's just from the top of my head really, hope it makes sense.

 

[Spider-Kurt!]

I fthey pratically decided to do the same as Batman Begins did.
Which villain would you choose?

Black Mask is a good choice being that not only has he not been used in a movie before before but also,as mentioned above, he could have ties and parallels with Bruce Wayne and his family steming from childhood. Not to mention he falls in both the mob and the freak category. Some of the same could be said about Hush but his knowing that Batman is Bruce Wayne I think is best used for a sequel.

 

[Rodrigo90]

A villain who will bring out a new element to Batman and the movie in general.

Hugo Strange for a realistic villain, and Clayface for unrealistic. Strange has the means to access the minds of any character. I'd have him as the head of Arkham.

And Clayface would not only introduce that unrealistic element, but bring out Batman's detective side.

I could see Strange being obsessed with Batman, and suffering from some identity/personality disorder, and be drawn to Clayface who is quite literally a manifestation of his own mental issues.

To elaborate further, Clayface is a perfect villain who can **** with Batman's head, so could Strange. Villains who will flesh out his character.

Like the 2 of them deducting who Batman is, and Clayface turning into people from Bruce's life and messing with him. Turning into Joe Chill and forcing him to reconsider his actions of killing him! Testing Batman to his limits.

 

[Spider-Kurt!]

For some reason I see Clayface working best with Hush. Probably due to both of them being a part of the original Hush story as well as Thomas Elliot's obsession with Bruce Wayne to the point of virtually becoming him.

As for Hugo Strange being a rebooted orgin threat ,I would love to see him appear. I would have it where Batman's been around less than a year or so and is considered by most to be an urban myth the GCPD use to scare off criminals. Strange is a criminal psychologist at Arkham who becomes fascinated after many of his patients (including the Riddler seen battling Batman in flashback sequences) all mention the Batman in their therapy sessions and begins a case study on if the Batman does indeed exist, who might he be. Batman's basic orgins would also be revealed in flashbacks as Strange reads about the tragedy that Bruce Wayne suffered as a youth and tries to find out where he dissapeared to all the years before his return to Gotham around the time that Batman sightings first began. In the process he interviews Leslie Thompkins, Alfred Pennyworth and even Bruce himself.

 

[CConn]

I think they should get David Lynch to direct 6 films based on Grant Morrison's run.

We'd all die of fright.

 

[SimonTrent]

My ideal lay out for the next franchise -

First film - Established Batman, Robin Origin Story
Second film - Mr. Freeze story arc
Third film - Riddler Story Arc

 

[cryptic name]

I hope they never use Hush. He was such a scooby doo plot device character. I wonder who the villain really? Oh gosh, it's the one guy who isn't in every issue...

 

[Lord]

If they decided to do something of origin story like batman begins again then i think that it should be either carmine and the mafia like in Year One, the original pre-joker red Hood (he could also be saved for a sequel where Bruce investigatesthe gang) or Black Mask.

 

[Cobblepot]

I would love to see Man-Bat on film and Batman already set as an established character, but still as the mysterious Bat creature.
And in the first ten minutes (or 5) we see Btamn hunting down Killer-Croc in the sewers.

Just an all out gritty fantasy film.

 

[Rodrigo90]

For me, Mr. Freeze is definitely the best villain to go for. He's Superpowered (through his artillery like Batman), which is the way to go in order to establish a new franchise that will coincide with MOS. You can still have gangsters and stuff, but even pitting them against the likes of Freeze would be great.

Also, as unrealistic as Freeze is (but they should definitely make him plausible), he has the most mature backstory and personality of almost any villain. Which will help keep that serious tone of Nolan's films, which shouldn't be lost.