The Dark Knight Rises Life after Nolan: What comes next... - Part 1 Unless it's actually Part 2...o - Part 2

I'd like to see more relatively unknown villains the general public don't get to see often. Eg. Black Mask, Hugo Strange, Deadshot, Hush, etc. These guys can mix things up. The classics are all well and good, but they could become repetitive. Or they can still be there, but with a reduced role.
 
Clayface+Hugo Strange.

i want the next reboot too be soooooo unrealistic as can be.

That would be perfect.Just totally diffrent then the Nolan films,only in that way it could be intresting to reboot again.
 
i want the next reboot too be soooooo unrealistic as can be.

That would be perfect.Just totally diffrent then the Nolan films,only in that way it could be intresting to reboot again.

It's going to be realistic. Not as realistic as Nolan's films. But along the lines of MOS I think.
 
I think that Arkham Asylum is a good platform for a reboot. How it borders reality/fantasy. They could even do a CGI Batman like they did with TMNT or Star Wars: The Clone Wars. Not saying I would like that sort of thing, because there's a good chance it would suck, but I wouldn't be surprised.
 
Whether you like the character or not,Robin will undoubtably appear on the big screen again at some point. So far Nolan's Batman movies seem to take place within a two year peroid or even less. I wouldn't mind if the "soft reboot" were to take place 6 to 8 years after that with Nightwing and Oracle working with Batman as an already established team. Both characters could be set up for prequel spin off movies.

Part of me would rather see Batman appearing in flashbacks in a Nightwing movie than to see Robin in a Batman movie if that makes sense. I guess in a Nightwing movie,Dick Grayson can be a young adult the majority of the film and the death of his parents,his becoming Robin and eventually being Nightwing can be placed in between. I don't think that could properly be done in a Batman movie without the central figure getting lost.
 
As for the vilian, Mr.Freeze would be perfect. The only potential problem I could see is that it would on the surface appear somewhat redundant to the Artifacts episode from The Batman animated series and even Batman and Robin. Still,I think it could work out great.
 
If the next franchise delves more into the supernatural side of the Batman mythos, then Mr. Freeze is a no-brainer.
 
If WB were to make another animated series, I'd like them to keep Nolan's concept of Batman in the real world. But with animation you can obviously do things which can't be done on film, would be cool if they involved the detective side a bit more and since it could be 'less realistic' I'd like to see a badass Robin.

Sort of like Under The Red Hood, would be awesome to have a new show in that mould.
 
If WB were to make another animated series, I'd like them to keep Nolan's concept of Batman in the real world. But with animation you can obviously do things which can't be done on film, would be cool if they involved the detective side a bit more and since it could be 'less realistic' I'd like to see a badass Robin.

Sort of like Under The Red Hood, would be awesome to have a new show in that mould.

Why the hell would they do a Nolan style animated series? That would be squandering the possibilities of animation. Under the Red Hood was far more like B: TAS than Nolan anyway.
 
Im sick of all of DC's animated films being done all lookin the same as far as the art direction and animation goes. I hate saying that Marvel has the upper hand with their animated features using many different artists and animaters to change it up. My favorite thing about Gotham Knight was that each small episode was done by different artists, amazing ones at that, not the same no offense boring BTAS style weve seen over and over.
 
They've went with a new art style for every singe one of their releases. What are you talking about?
 
Black Mask as main-villain ftw!

I love realistically grounded Batman in live-action. Sure I am not against them incorporating more fantasy elements than Nolan, but don't go over the top and don't do it just because.
 
I think Freeze deserves a correct interpretation... or at least a realistic one. I came up with a real-world Chris Nolan version of Freeze, who would simply be named Freeze.

Dr. Victor Schivell - (Schivell is the original name from the Adam West series when he was called "Mr. Zero", before they got cute and literally named him "Dr. Fries" like in Batman & Robin and the early comics).

Schivell is a molecular biologist specializing in Cryonics (a real thing - it's where they're keeping Ted Williams's head), who is toying with the prolonging of life through freezing. His wife Nora is his main subject: she's dying of cancer and he puts her in cryo-stasis indefinitely until other scientists find a cure. This too is not uncommon and is 100% realistic.

Schivell is running out of funding and starts getting a little dirty. He starts taking jobs with the mob and the mob uses Schivell's lab as a torture chamber for crooks who have double-crossed them. Schivell is paid to put the mob's enemies in a giant freezer (or refrigerator), where he leaves them in there for long periods of time while slowly decreasing the temperature inside until these victims reveal the information that the mob wants; for example: who they're working with, where they stashed the money they stole from the mob, etc... Think of this as a "Saw" sort of torture, but more tame. Schivell will freeze some of these people to death, based on the mob's orders.

The important thing is that Schivell never literally calls himself "Mr. Freeze", nor does he wear a weird Freeze suit. He's going to wear the opposite. In order to work inside the lab (freezer), he wears a scientific suit that keeps him WARM while working inside an environment that is super cold. So Victor isn't dependent on cold climates or diamonds or special suits. He's just a regular human being who wears a scientific warm-suit inside his giant refrigerator. He protects himself from the cold like any normal person would.

Batman comes into the equation when the police find frozen bodies throughout the city - like dead bodies frozen in giant ice cubes - which is Schivell's disposal of the mob's victims.

And I'm thinking an even more badass subplot would be the idea of Wayne Enterprises wanting to do business with Schivell's research company (like "CryoTech")- a situation where Bruce's "Wayne Tech" division is interested in Schivell's warm-suits as a possible military concept for soldiers in cold climates. And when Bruce Wayne isn't interested in the idea, Schivell worries about his decrease in funding, and turns to the mob for help. Sort of a Riddler/Batman Forever knock-off, but not totally.

In conclusion, he's not really Mr. Freeze, he's not called Mr. Freeze, and he is a 100% normal guy who wears a suit that keeps him warm while being in his lab freezer. The mob nickname him "Freeze" as sort of an inside joke.

And to top it off, he'll have a "freeze gun": A device that sprays liquid nitrogen that isn't really a "gun", but more like a scientific super-soaker that shoots nitrogen at victims.

A traditional warm suit like this, but with white and blue (it would be his traditional lab suit - other scientists would be wearing it too):
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Something like an astronaut helmet that he wears with the warm suit:
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His freeze gun: Typical liquid nitrogen spray -
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A lab like this:
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And the police find this at the crime scenes:
frozen_large.jpg


it's a combination of being totally different while keeping the essence of what the character is.
 
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When it comes to reinterpreting failed live-action villains I think alot comes down to how the fans and GA reacts to Nolan's obviously very reimagined version of Bane. If the fans hate him because he is not huge, south-american and without a Luchador mask then I believe it will be a lesser chance of the next movie including a reimagined, new version of done villains like Mr. Freeze and Poison Ivy.
 
They've went with a new art style for every singe one of their releases. What are you talking about?

What im talking about is it all looks the same, by changing the look of batmans costume does not cause it to be a drastic change from the previous dtv animated installment.
 
I think Freeze deserves a correct interpretation... or at least a realistic one. I came up with a real-world Chris Nolan version of Freeze, who would simply be named Freeze.

Dr. Victor Schivell - (Schivell is the original name from the Adam West series when he was called "Mr. Zero", before they got cute and literally named him "Dr. Fries" like in Batman & Robin and the early comics).

Schivell is a molecular biologist specializing in Cryonics (a real thing - it's where they're keeping Ted Williams's head), who is toying with the prolonging of life through freezing. His wife Nora is his main subject: she's dying of cancer and he puts her in cryo-stasis indefinitely until other scientists find a cure. This too is not uncommon and is 100% realistic.

Schivell is running out of funding and starts getting a little dirty. He starts taking jobs with the mob and the mob uses Schivell's lab as a torture chamber for crooks who have double-crossed them. Schivell is paid to put the mob's enemies in a giant freezer (or refrigerator), where he leaves them in there for long periods of time while slowly decreasing the temperature inside until these victims reveal the information that the mob wants; for example: who they're working with, where they stashed the money they stole from the mob, etc... Think of this as a "Saw" sort of torture, but more tame. Schivell will freeze some of these people to death, based on the mob's orders.

The important thing is that Schivell never literally calls himself "Mr. Freeze", nor does he wear a weird Freeze suit. He's going to wear the opposite. In order to work inside the lab (freezer), he wears a scientific suit that keeps him WARM while working inside an environment that is super cold. So Victor isn't dependent on cold climates or diamonds or special suits. He's just a regular human being who wears a scientific warm-suit inside his giant refrigerator. He protects himself from the cold like any normal person would.

Batman comes into the equation when the police find frozen bodies throughout the city - like dead bodies frozen in giant ice cubes - which is Schivell's disposal of the mob's victims.

And I'm thinking an even more badass subplot would be the idea of Wayne Enterprises wanting to do business with Schivell's research company (like "CryoTech")- a situation where Bruce's "Wayne Tech" division is interested in Schivell's warm-suits as a possible military concept for soldiers in cold climates. And when Bruce Wayne isn't interested in the idea, Schivell worries about his decrease in funding, and turns to the mob for help. Sort of a Riddler/Batman Forever knock-off, but not totally.

In conclusion, he's not really Mr. Freeze, he's not called Mr. Freeze, and he is a 100% normal guy who wears a suit that keeps him warm while being in his lab freezer. The mob nickname him "Freeze" as sort of an inside joke.

And to top it off, he'll have a "freeze gun": A device that sprays liquid nitrogen that isn't really a "gun", but more like a scientific super-soaker that shoots nitrogen at victims.

A traditional warm suit like this, but with white and blue (it would be his traditional lab suit - other scientists would be wearing it too):
ultimate_vol.jpg


Something like an astronaut helmet that he wears with the warm suit:
xin_5007021414278622885216.jpg


His freeze gun: Typical liquid nitrogen spray -
snkp_product20090716113321I0VF0.jpg


A lab like this:
lab.jpg


CI-System-web2.jpg


And the police find this at the crime scenes:
frozen_large.jpg


it's a combination of being totally different while keeping the essence of what the character is.

Well thought out, but that's TOO much like what Nolan would do. I want to see a more closer interpretation to Freeze. Keeping him plausible and realistic, just not Nolan's realistic level and style.
 
As a loosely connected continuation of the series I'd ljke a BatmN that says to himself "given what happened with the Tumbler, I really ought took personalize my vehicles anda other gear."
 
I know this is just a silly pipe dream, but I'd love to see an HBO series. A number of people have suggested a blend of narratives - Nolan's and something along the lines of BTAS. I think that would be perfect for an ongoing series, with one hour episodes. I'd really like to see some strong character development, which I think gets lost or severely abbreviated in a movie.

Just think how awesome it would be to see Harvey Dent in court, putting bad buys away, and to see his relationship with Gordon and Batman extend for multiple episodes, maybe even a season or two before his tragic change. And if Robin could be included in this medium, think about the possibilities of that dynamic.

So yes, a live-action BTAS on HBO. That's what I want.
 
Maybe someday, we'll get commercials like these that are instead inspired by Nolan's films.lol

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Really like the voice that actor is using for Batman. Reminds me of Conroys.
 
That's just the general sense I get browsing the Bat-Boards. Seems like in every thread there's a fair amount of talk about the possibilities and directions of the franchise after Nolan's films.
Now, while that's all well and good, must we forget the fact that TDKR is still an entire year away from being released?
It just seems... odd to me. Almost like talking about all the fun stuff you're going to do after a guest at your home leaves before you've even started dinner.
And while we're on the topic, I'd rather not see a new Batman franchise for AT LEAST a good 10 or so years. Let these Nolan films sit for a while, let them become the classics they (hopefully) deserve to be.
I want there to be an entire new generations of Bat fans before talk of a new movie is even started. That way when it comes out, all us old farts can complain about how Nolan was better. And the even older farts can complain about how Burton was better.
Just my two cents.
 

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