Lionsgate "Power Rangers" - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 21

[Mysteryman]

I get why this movie has it's fans after watching it. The actors playing Billy, Jason, and Kim are good in this, Bill Hader's sarcastic Apha 5 is fun. They obviously wanted this to look like Chronicle and the Rangers finding the power coins directly evokes the scene in Chronicle where the kids first get their powers. The Breakfast Club is probably the other movie this is closest to, actually I don't think the director is all that interested in the superherosSci-fi elements so It's probably for the best we don't get much Ranger action here.

It was a perfectly decent movie, but I see zero point in a cheapo sequel where we still won't get much Power Rangers and the director is more effective with the high school/hanging out scenes anyway The thing this movie does best is create actual teenagers with attitude, unlike the show. 5.5/10. I'm glad I saw it once but won't go back to it I imagine.

Dump the current director and find somebody who has an actual vision of the characters and we will see what happens.

 

[momotaros]

Looks like the sequel talk is not dead..

http://screenrant.com/power-rangers-sequel-talks/

Also Lord Zedd looks like he be the main vilian in the second one if it gets made..

http://comicbook.com/movies/2017/06/26/power-rangers-lord-zedd-dean-israelite/

 

[2kt09]

Looks like the sequel talk is not dead..

http://screenrant.com/power-rangers-sequel-talks/

Thanks to toy sales, though, relating to both Power Rangers movie and Power Rangers: Ninja Steel TV show, we could well see a sequel sometime in the future.

According to Toy News Power Rangers, "action figures have shown a growth of 122.8 percent year to date, with April sales tracking up 185.9 percent versus 2016."

It should be noted that this figure includes not just movie action figures but the entire line (including the current Ninja Steel season) as well. Still, seeing such a huge growth in sales can only be a good sign for a potential Power Rangers 2. In fact, Power Rangers' toy success might be right in line with what Hollywood needs to survive.

With declining DVD sales and increasing pressure on tentpole films to turn massive profits, more and more movie studios are looking to merchandise to enhance the bottom line. According to The New York Times, more film companies than ever are releasing films with dedicated toy tie-ins. As the article states,

"More than ever, consumer products are influencing moviemaking decisions — namely, sequels and more sequels. Retailers are more willing to devote shelf space to tie-in products when there is already proven interest."

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That screenrant article is over the smallest hearsay I likely read.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Apparently that toy thing is continuously mis-used. The movie isn't what boosted the sales, which spiked in the UK. It was the new show.

 

[Reel-Man]

Show me the report that shows that exclusively people bought the TV show toys.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Show me the report that shows that exclusively people bought the TV show toys.

Show me the report where they bought mostly movie toys.

 

[Reel-Man]

I'm not the one who claimed the toy sales were boosted by the new show. Stop spinning things to suit your own agenda. You took an article, stated your opinion that it's mis-used without any proof and now you're backtracking. Spin doctor.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I'm not the one who claimed the toy sales were boosted by the new show. Stop spinning things to suit your own agenda. You took and article, stated your opinion that it's mis-used without any proof and now you're backtracking. Spin doctor.

No, you are the one who wrote the words, "exclusively by toy sales", that makes any sense.

Its okay. I am sure the movie that has made 140m WW is destroying the toy market Despicable Me, Star Wars, Cars and Spider-Man style. Except it isn't, you know why? It is simply action figures, which places it 11th overall in that time period, with a tv show to back the numbers, according to Screenrant.

Look, its from the same source and everything:

http://screenrant.com/power-rangers-2-sequel-toy-sales/

A report by Toy News states that NPD data has Power Rangers listed as the number one action figures brand, with a massive increase in sales this past year. In the last year to date, figures are up 122.8%, with April 2017 listed as an increase of 185.9% on the same month in 2016. That puts Power Rangers as the 11th best seller across all toy properties. In fairness, those figures cannot all be attributable to the Power Rangers movie; Power Rangers: Ninja Steel has enjoyed huge popularity on Nickelodeon this year, with a second season, Power Rangers: Super Ninja Steel, confirmed for 2018.

Given that kids are reliant on adults taking them to the movies, and Power Rangers was rated PG-13, it seems likely that Power Rangers: Ninja Steel is why the toy sales have lifted so massively; kids can enjoy free access to the show whenever they like. However, such an increase can only be looked upon favorably by Hollywood execs, who might just think a second movie in the franchise will be viable, especially if they can tie its release to the back of a Ninja Steel season.

This explains the director crying about it being PG-13.

And I am still waiting for your response for why they marketed the movie the way they did and released it when they did which shows they weren't just dumping it.

 

[Reel-Man]

Darth, my issue with your initial reply is that we don't know which sold more, the show toys or movie toys. What is evident is both helped each other out to get that top spot. It wouldn't be there one without the other. The article speculates just as you have without any actual data (which we likely won't see). I have also no doubt the movie toys were more appealing than the show's toys. It certainly was for me. The first Power Rangers action figures I've bought since childhood.

As for the other post, not sure which one you're referring to but they clearly mismanaged the movie's release. Not talking about the movie quality here but actual marketing. I assumed the property (Power Rangers) would do the selling. I did also call to the fact they would mass advertise it. They sadly did it too late. Too little too late?

There's many issues with how this was handled if we once again just look at marketing side. Lack of awareness, late media push, crowded release window (against a Disney juggernaut no less), PG13 vs PG rating, perception of the Power Rangers brand, no 3D or IMAX.

I have no issues with slow burn type movies as I can enjoy just about anything from old black and white movies, 70's science fiction movies, blockbuster movies, independent dramas, low budget movies etc. For sure the slow burn aspect of this movie very likely turned people off. Specially in the day and age of action packed movie season.

That's my two cents and I think I've already stated a few of these. Now I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that the home release is strong and gets a sequel in the works. If it doesn't, well I'm used to it by now (Tron 3).

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Darth, my issue with your initial reply is that we don't know which sold more, the show toys or movie toys. What is evident is both helped each other out to get that top spot. It wouldn't be there one without the other. The article speculates just as you have without any actual data (which we likely won't see). I have also no doubt the movie toys were more appealing than the show's toys. It certainly was for me. The first Power Rangers action figures I've bought since childhood.

As for the other post, not sure which one you're referring to but they clearly mismanaged the movie's release. Not talking about the movie quality here but actual marketing. I assumed the property (Power Rangers) would do the selling. I did also call to the fact they would mass advertise it. They sadly did it too late. Too little too late?

There's many issues with how this was handled if we once again just look at marketing side. Lack of awareness, late media push, crowded release window (against a Disney juggernaut no less), PG13 vs PG rating, perception of the Power Rangers brand, no 3D or IMAX.

I have no issues with slow burn type movies as I can enjoy just about anything from old black and white movies, 70's science fiction movies, blockbuster movies, independent dramas, low budget movies etc. For sure the slow burn aspect of this movie very likely turned people off. Specially in the day and age of action packed movie season.

That's my two cents and I think I've already stated a few of these. Now I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that the home release is strong and gets a sequel in the works. If it doesn't, well I'm used to it by now (Tron 3).

My problem with all the articles that try to use this as evidence is that it is nebulous, and ignores obvious problems with it. Like it isn't even in the top 10 of overall toy sales, and it just conveniently ignores where such money would go. Namely, none of the people who actually paid for the movie to be made in the first place. It doesn't even name what toy market.

This movie appealed to you. You are in the minority there, as the movie did not do well and dropped off drastically. So you finding the movie figures more appealing then a 10 year old is really relevant, because there weren't millions going out buying action figures for a movie they didn't see. I know I have never bought an action figure for movie I have never watched.

This is where your fandom comes in. Because no one at Lionsgate, no one anywhere but the fans thought that the Power Rangers name would sell it. Every issue you are citing either helped the film (where are all these PG-13 movies that were hurt by that rating) or was an obvious result of them dumping the movie. They didn't open after Beauty and the Beast because they had faith.

And the results of the box office speak for themselves.

 

[Mysteryman]

Interesting to hear that the director is complaining about the PG13 rating.
If it had been PG, the box office results would have been no different.

 

[The Big G]

Im a defender of the movie and even I think the PG13 comment was dumb.

I would think that the PG13 would give the movie more credibility.

 

[Reel-Man]

If any of you are getting the Walmart exclusive can you please confirm if this bonus disc is just a repack of the existing bonus features?

Edit: Nevermind, got a copy.

 

[Kane52630]

Interesting to hear that the director is complaining about the PG13 rating.
If it had been PG, the box office results would have been no different.

Im a defender of the movie and even I think the PG13 comment was dumb.

I would think that the PG13 would give the movie more credibility.

Agreed.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I think the argument is more kids would see it. But don't you theoretically lose a lot of teens and young adults that way? This isn't BatB with legacy and appeal to all ages. Plus, little kids watch PG-13 movies all the time.

 

[Saitou Hajime]

Them spending so much time without the face mask, combined witht he design of the headpiece and costume, reminds me more of Gatchaman more than Power Rangers.

 

[Wheels]

I really don't see the upside in a sequel. I'm perfectly fine with never getting one, especially since I highly doubt I'd get what I would want out of it.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I really don't see the upside in a sequel. I'm perfectly fine with never getting one, especially since I highly doubt I'd get what I would want out of it.

What would you want out of it Wheels?

 

[Resistance61513]

Honestly, I want a sequel. Sure there were some missteps taken with the property but, I see a lot of heart and potential with the cast. They were, easily, my favorite part of the film. Just the way they all worked together.

I bought the Blu-Ray because I'm a sucker for special features, these special features didn't disappoint. Watching the cast and crew joke around on set, they were genuinely friends and bonded.

Surprisingly, there is also talks of sequels in the interviews in the special features. Granted it's just Saban running his mouth and talking about how "this is the origin film" the best is yet to come.

Regardless, fingers are crossed this cast gets another shot.

 

[Wheels]

What would you want out of it Wheels?

More Ranger mythology and sci-fi. A sequel will just end up being them avoiding Ranger scenes so they don't have to spend money. I mean I can deal with bad effects because I watch the show, but no average person is going to go see a sequel with more Power Rangers scenes if it looks even worse visually than the original film.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Any mech movie is going to struggle in the US because Transformers has defined the genre. Unless someone has a vision to make people look at it as an action movie with cool action first then a Power Rangers movie. That's how Bay made a movi based on 80s toys successful.

The bad storytelling eventually caught up to it though.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

More Ranger mythology and sci-fi. A sequel will just end up being them avoiding Ranger scenes so they don't have to spend money. I mean I can deal with bad effects because I watch the show, but no average person is going to go see a sequel with more Power Rangers scenes if it looks even worse visually than the original film.

This definitely confuses me with the argument for a cheaper sequel. If there is one thing I feel like most of the fans and detractors felt was a problem, it is the lack of Ranger action. One can call it Breakfast Club, but that isn't what you'd expect from the sequel. If that is what they could get for the money they spent, if they cut 20m-40m out of the budget, how will that get better?

 

[Mysteryman]

Any mech movie is going to struggle in the US because Transformers has defined the genre. Unless someone has a vision to make people look at it as an action movie with cool action first then a Power Rangers movie. That's how Bay made a movi based on 80s toys successful.

The bad storytelling eventually caught up to it though.

Connecting the Transformers to King Arthur=Epic Fail.

 

[Wheels]

To me movies offer a chance to get more into the actual Power Ranger stuff than just at the end of episodes. What good is a movie if it's going to have to do exactly what the show does in typically saving all the Ranger stuff until the end?

 

[kguillou]

I want a sequel bad but I just cannot possibly fathom a viable reason for the studio to greenlight another one when this movie clearly lost them money. Maybe when all is said and done with toys and DVD sales this might MIGHT break even but if I were a Lionsgate exec I would laugh Saban off the studio lot. And its not even like it got glowing reviews but underperformed like Dredd. It doesnt even have that street cred to use as a weapon.

It bums me out but just being realistic.