Man Of Steel Soars @ Comic Con - Part 2

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herolee10 said:
Well I just read "Birthright" for the first time, and DAMN...just wanted to say that it was one of the most incredible stories that I've read regarding Superman's origins and I can definitely see where MOS may have been inspired from.

The climax of Birthright, featuring Lex's fake kryptonian invasion, with warships and armored kryptonians, I think MOS will feature some of that into the film, only with them being real and perhaps not as many kryptonians.

With CGI armor and potential spaceships by Zod being attached to MOS, if Snyder is able to make it work, we may be in for some awesome stuff.

And honestly, I've been wanting to see a large scale alien invasion/war like film featuring Superman for the longest time.
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yeah its fantastic, definitely my favourie Superman origin book
 
Birthright was pretty awesome no doubt, but Secret Origin by Geoff Johns and the more recent origin by Grant Morrison in Action Comics were just as good if not better.
 
Crazymaverick said:
Birthright was pretty awesome no doubt, but Secret Origin by Geoff Johns and the more recent origin by Grant Morrison in Action Comics were just as good if not better.
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I just read Secret Origin and am loving Morrison's Action Comics, but Birthright is still tops for me as far as origin stories go.
 
flickchick85 said:
I just read Secret Origin and am loving Morrison's Action Comics, but Birthright is still tops for me as far as origin stories go.
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Yeah Morrisons run on Action Comics is incredible they should base the next Superman animated series off that. I love Secret Origins but I don't think anythings as good as Birthright.
 
I just found out about the trailer moments ago and watched it immediately. The trailer is brilliant despite watching it on a ****ti cam. When the trailers are bad, there's almost no hope for a film. With that said, I am unsure how well the film will do. Even with all the changes they are making to Superman they still can't get out from under the shadow of the Donner films by reintroducing characters that were written specifically for those films. Not to mention, the use of Luthor over and over again is getting tiresome.
 
zanos said:
I just found out about the trailer moments ago and watched it immediately. The trailer is brilliant despite watching it on a ****ti cam. When the trailers are bad, there's almost no hope for a film. With that said, I am unsure how well the film will do. Even with all the changes they are making to Superman they still can't get out from under the shadow of the Donner films by reintroducing characters that were written specifically for those films. Not to mention, the use of Luthor over and over again is getting tiresome.
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Like Otis and Tessmacher? And that bully truck driver?
 
I've actually never read the entirety of All-Star, only a couple of issues here and there. Because of its obvious inspiration for the Crowe voiceover in the teaser, and you guys talking it up here, I'm downloading the first 6 issues now. :)

I liked Secret Origins, but not as much as Birthright. Secret Origins has a lot of good stuff going for it, but I guess one of the things that makes me prefer Birthright more is how fresh and stand-alone it feels to me. As much as I love, truly love, the Donnerverse, I feel Origins is too weighed down by adherence to elements of it. I love Birthright's clean-slate start, structure, and the way it presents the different identities of Clark/Superman.
 
zanos said:
I just found out about the trailer moments ago and watched it immediately. The trailer is brilliant despite watching it on a ****ti cam. When the trailers are bad, there's almost no hope for a film. With that said, I am unsure how well the film will do. Even with all the changes they are making to Superman they still can't get out from under the shadow of the Donner films by reintroducing characters that were written specifically for those films. Not to mention, the use of Luthor over and over again is getting tiresome.
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:facepalm: Are u serious?
 
Zorex said:
I've actually never read the entirety of All-Star, only a couple of issues here and there. Because of its obvious inspiration for the Crowe voiceover in the teaser, and you guys talking it up here, I'm downloading the first 6 issues now. :)
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For me, All-Star Superman is the epitome of Superman storytelling. Everything Grant Morrison does is gold to me.

I liked Secret Origins, but not as much as Birthright. Secret Origins has a lot of good stuff going for it, but I guess one of the things that makes me prefer Birthright more is how fresh and stand-alone it feels to me. As much as I love, truly love, the Donnerverse, I feel Origins is too weighed down by adherence to elements of it. I love Birthright's clean-slate start, structure, and the way it presents the different identities of Clark/Superman.
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This. If Birthright had been the Post-Crisis origin and Kingdom Come had been written in the eighties I have no doubt they'd be as revered as Batman: Year One and The Dark Knight Returns.
 
Llama_Shepherd said:
For me, All-Star Superman is the epitome of Superman storytelling. Everything Grant Morrison does is gold to me.



This. If Birthright had been the Post-Crisis origin and Kingdom Come had been written in the eighties I have no doubt they'd be as revered as Batman: Year One and The Dark Knight Returns.
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Totally All Star is incredible, infant the animated movies pretty good as well.

Totally agree on the bottom too Kingdom Come is my favourite Graphic Novel ever.
 
Zorex said:
I've actually never read the entirety of All-Star, only a couple of issues here and there. Because of its obvious inspiration for the Crowe voiceover in the teaser, and you guys talking it up here, I'm downloading the first 6 issues now. :)

I liked Secret Origins, but not as much as Birthright. Secret Origins has a lot of good stuff going for it, but I guess one of the things that makes me prefer Birthright more is how fresh and stand-alone it feels to me. As much as I love, truly love, the Donnerverse, I feel Origins is too weighed down by adherence to elements of it. I love Birthright's clean-slate start, structure, and the way it presents the different identities of Clark/Superman.
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That line from the trailer isn't until issue 11 or 12 though.
 
All Star Superman is perhaps one of the greatest comics I've ever read. Some love him and some hate him, but count me in the group who ****ing loves Grant Morrison.
 
Zorex said:
No, doesn't sound like her, and besides... Why would Martha say her son was in the bus and saw what Clark did, when Clark is her son?
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I Am The Knight said:
The woman actually says "He saw" not "They saw". So yeah.
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UaalaDan said:
:confused:: It's not Martha.
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Willi Berg said:
It is a mother of one of the other schoolchildren on the bus and she is freaked out hearing what Clark did to save the children.
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I think it's Diane Lane (Martha Kent). Here is why:

- She says, "My son was in the bus.... he saw what Clark did". Both the "son" and "Clark" doesn't have to mean the same thing. It could be two different statements put together for the trailer. Or it could be a kid saw Clark saving the bus, and Martha Kent is talking to Jonathan Kent, "My son was in the bus.... he saw what Clark did". Maybe Martha is afraid of Clark showing his powers, while Jonathan is okay with it......

- Another reason is why would they waste dialogue on random characters for the ComicCon trailer? They had dialogue for Jonathan Kent, Jor-El, Clark.... and you guys think they will have a random woman have dialogue on the trailer

- also, the final reason......... it's Diane Lane's voice

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I thought it was a mom of a kid who saw Clark use his powers.

the next line is Jonathan saying "People are afraid of what they don't understand."

so, perhaps, the mom ( and maybe her son ) regard Clark as a freak.
 
DIRECTOR said:
I think it's Diane Lane (Martha Kent). Here is why:

- She says, "My son was in the bus.... he saw what Clark did". Both the "son" and "Clark" doesn't have to mean the same thing. It could be two different statements put together for the trailer. Or it could be a kid saw Clark saving the bus, and Martha Kent is talking to Jonathan Kent, "My son was in the bus.... he saw what Clark did". Maybe Martha is afraid of Clark showing his powers, while Jonathan is okay with it......

- Another reason is why would they waste dialogue on random characters for the ComicCon trailer? They had dialogue for Jonathan Kent, Jor-El, Clark.... and you guys think they will have a random woman have dialogue on the trailer

- also, the final reason......... it's Diane Lane's voice

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You're funny. Also, it's not Martha. ;)

And yes, they would have a random woman's dialogue in the trailer. As long as the material carries the story they're presenting. It's not a cast run.
 
BH/HHH said:
Yeah Morrisons run on Action Comics is incredible they should base the next Superman animated series off that.
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That would be amazing. :up:

Doctor Jones said:
All Star Superman is perhaps one of the greatest comics I've ever read. Some love him and some hate him, but count me in the group who ****ing loves Grant Morrison.
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Agreed. As I've been saying, Birthright is my favorite Superman origin story, but All-Star Superman is my favorite Superman story, and is easily up there at the top of my all-time favorite comics period.
 
Guess I gotta read All-Star and Secret Origin then. Doubt they will win over For All Seasons and Birthright in heart, character and freshness.
 
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