The Dark Knight Rises Marion Cotillard as Miranda Tate V

[MagnarTheGreat]

I love this pic from the other day. She's indeed such a doll.

 

[kvz5]

New pic -

 

[herolee10]

On a interesting note, I just watched "Inception" again not too long ago, and I find it amusing that Marion's character kept saying things like "You're waiting for a train..." over and over again considering who she's playing now given on how Ra's was killed in the franchise.lol

Talia: "You're waiting for a train..a train that won't take you far a way, because no one will kill you, but they won't save you either..."

 

[kvz5]

Assuming she will die (for discussion's sake), I'm wondering how they will handle it? It seems from the set photos that she's [blackout]unconscious inside the HEMMT truck when it crashed[/blackout] so what happens after that? I think [blackout]Gordon (and Catwoman?)[/blackout] approached her? Is that it? That seems a bit too anti-climatic. Given her impact to the story and how she'll betray Bruce, I would think that her death would have some dramatic moments/dialogues between her and Bats.

 

[kvz5]

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[MrWayne]

Assuming she will die (for discussion's sake), I'm wondering how they will handle it? It seems from the set photos that she's [blackout]unconscious inside the HEMMT truck when it crashed[/blackout] so what happens after that? I think [blackout]Gordon (and Catwoman?)[/blackout] approached her? Is that it? That seems a bit too anti-climatic. Given her impact to the story and how she'll betray Bruce, I would think that her death would have some dramatic moments/dialogues between her and Bats.

Are we 100% sure yet that she will betray Bruce? I have my doubts on that.

 

[kvz5]

Are we 100% sure yet that she will betray Bruce? I have my doubts on that.

I 100% believe the info that she will [BLACKOUT]stab him ("Batman gains the advantage until Miranda reveals herself and stabs him")[/BLACKOUT] and considering how she's walking out of City Hall with Bane's right hand man guarding her like a goddamn queen and with Bats not hesitating to shoot at the truck she's on, I think it's a safe bet that she betrayed him.

 

[MrWayne]

I have my doubts because:

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In the TDKR scrap book she's listed as an ally. But maybe there's a twist to that at the end to your point. As I'm sure there will be more than a few twists and turns before it's all over.

 

[ggghhh]

Assuming she will die (for discussion's sake), I'm wondering how they will handle it? It seems from the set photos that she's [blackout]unconscious inside the HEMMT truck when it crashed[/blackout] so what happens after that? I think [blackout]Gordon (and Catwoman?)[/blackout] approached her? Is that it? That seems a bit too anti-climatic. Given her impact to the story and how she'll betray Bruce, I would think that her death would have some dramatic moments/dialogues between her and Bats.

After City Hall, him and her are done, professionally.
That scene could go on for a while, but I'm still not sure if it's [blackout]Bruce or Bane who is stabbed.[/blackout]

 

[kvz5]

I have my doubts because:

Spoiler

In the TDKR scrap book she's listed as an ally. But maybe there's a twist to that at the end to your point. As I'm sure there will be more than a few twists and turns before it's all over.

True but I'm thinking they won't mention something important like her betrayal in the scrapbook.

That scene could go on for a while, but I'm still not sure if it's [blackout]Bruce or Bane who is stabbed.[/blackout]

There's definitely room for doubt since it just said [BLACKOUT]"him" [/BLACKOUT]and that new info from the scrapbook about [BLACKOUT]Bane being cast out of the LoS and him starting his own[/BLACKOUT]. I can see her being against Bane and thus [BLACKOUT]stabbing him[/BLACKOUT] but she still has to continue what she thinks it right and that involves taking and using the bomb and that's a no-no for Bats.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

"Miranda" is just a big fat bait-and-switch from Christopher "bait-and-switch" Nolan. She's just a little angel according to Nolan and she has little relevance in the film according to the actress, which is why she is being played down in the marketing. Spoilar alart

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EXT GOTHAM - WALL STREET: The melee.
(scene 264pt, 268pt) actors Bale, Hardy, Stewart, stunts, BG





EXT GOTHAM STREET - They ram the truck with a bus
(scene 265)

EXT GOTHAM STREET - The 2nd Bomb Truck is slowed by the cops. Gordon leaps onto it
(scene 270)

INT GOTHAM CITY HALL? - Batman gains the advantage until Miranda reveals herself. She stabs him
(scene 271?)

(47 seconds in)

EXT GOTHAM - FIFTH STREET: Gordon clings to the truck. He holds the blinking det signal blocker
(scene 274)





EXT GOTHAM STREET - M transfers from a Tumbler to the Truck
(scene 279pt)

(Passenger-side)

EXT GOTHAM STREET - Two Tumblers join the Truck and its escort Tumbler forming the convoy
(scene 279pt)

EXT GOTHAM STREET - The convoy breaks through a barricade of cars
(scene 279pt)

EXT GOTHAM - CITY HALL STREET: Pod races away
(scene 281pt) actors Hathaway Double

INT BOMB TRUCK - Gordon considers his situation and checks the time remaining
(scene 282)

EXT GOTHAM STREET - The convoy attacked from the front and the rear
(scene 284)

EXT GOTHAM STREET - The pod attacks the Bomb convoy
(scenes 284-286)

EXT GOTHAM STREET - The Bat and the Pod blow the 1st Tumbler into a hole in the street
(scene 286)

IN/EX BOMB TRUCK - Gordon on the bomb truck and inside the box
(scene 289)

IN/EX BOMB TRUCK - The driver is shot M takes over the wheel
(scene 290)

IN/EX BOMB TRUCK CAB - Miranda grasps what Batman is trying to do
(scene 293pt)

EXT GOTHAM STREET - The Bat makes a head on pass at the lone truck forcing a hard right turn
(scene 295)

Additional Sources:
2011-08-24 Batman - The Dark Knight Rises Scenes 265 - 295 - Youtube
2011-11-08 infamous - SuperHeroHype Forums (1 of 2)
2011-11-08 infamous - SuperHeroHype Forums (2 of 2)

 

[MrWayne]

True but I'm thinking they won't mention something important like her betrayal in the scrapbook.





There's definitely room for doubt since it just said [BLACKOUT]"him" [/BLACKOUT]and that new info from the scrapbook about [BLACKOUT]Bane being cast out of the LoS and him starting his own[/BLACKOUT]. I can see her being against Bane and thus [BLACKOUT]stabbing him[/BLACKOUT] but she still has to continue what she thinks it right and that involves taking and using the bomb and that's a no-no for Bats.

True. We just have to wait and see. Her arc seems to be the most un spoken about.

The scrap book was cool [BLACKOUT] with the confirmation of Bane and his LOS connections finally. [/BLACKOUT]

 

[AnneFan]

True but I'm thinking they won't mention something important like her betrayal in the scrapbook.

Exactly. At this point she's still just Miranda Tate and they're selling her as such.

 

[lililatigresse]

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The more I think about it, the more I think she will stab Bane not Batman.
I don't understand what happens there. She comes inside the City Hall, Batman and Bane are fighting, Batman is winning but she stabs him. But then we don't see Bane anymore. So Batman has been stabbed but he's strong enough to continue the fighting since he escapes and uses the Bat!
I have read a theory about Catwoman being the one to kill Bane because Batman won't do it but, I think that if someone does it, it's going to be Talia. She will be the one to do what is "necessary".
Plus, she doesn't seems to enjoy it in the City Hall or the trial pics. She seems more sad than amused to me.

I may be totally wrong but I believe she really wants to save Gotham. I believe she's not a fan of Bane and she really likes Bruce, but in the end after the whole Scarecrow thing, after seeing how low Gotham has fallen, she thinks they failed, her father was right and the city must be destroy.

In Inception, Dom must go against Mal even if he still has feelings for her. Okay, his Mal is not the real Mal, but even if Bruce still has feelings for Tate, what is he supposed to do? Let her destroy the city? I think he knows she has been brainwashed by his father!
And he did not even destroy the truck, he destroyed the tumblers. I think he's just trying to stop the truck.
Then, there's the whole Catwoman thing, she seems to leave the City Hall even before Tate enters the City Hall but then there's a pic of her and the truck!
I don't know, I think there are so many things we don't know, but I don't think Tate is pure evil and that all she wants is revenge.

 

[Nevincer]

Stupid sexy Marion

 

[Batman jr.]

"I'm back"

I think that she isn't in this film just being "da hot friendly helpful chick".

I mean: her presence in the trailers is suspiciously minimal, and with Nolan at the helm... Also, I hope that, if she "turns", she'll be pure evil. Looking at her eyes, that won't be a problem...

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

The new Batman Incorporated is released on June 20th. It seems to have a Talia al Ghul origin story of sorts, oddly enough, by Morrison:

Spoiler

 

[kvz5]

The new Batman Incorporated is released on June 20th. It seems to have a Talia al Ghul origin story of sorts, oddly enough, by Morrison:

Spoiler

Aw, lil' Talia is cute!

Still no new footage of Tatelia at the new TV Spots.

 

[Van Petrol]

Aw, lil' Talia is cute!

Still no new footage of Tatelia at the new TV Spots.

It's all part of the plan, my dear...

 

[Nevincer]

D'aww... lil' Talia. So cute.

 

[shauner111]

Spoiler

The more I think about it, the more I think she will stab Bane not Batman.
I don't understand what happens there. She comes inside the City Hall, Batman and Bane are fighting, Batman is winning but she stabs him. But then we don't see Bane anymore. So Batman has been stabbed but he's strong enough to continue the fighting since he escapes and uses the Bat!
I have read a theory about Catwoman being the one to kill Bane because Batman won't do it but, I think that if someone does it, it's going to be Talia. She will be the one to do what is "necessary".
Plus, she doesn't seems to enjoy it in the City Hall or the trial pics. She seems more sad than amused to me.

I may be totally wrong but I believe she really wants to save Gotham. I believe she's not a fan of Bane and she really likes Bruce, but in the end after the whole Scarecrow thing, after seeing how low Gotham has fallen, she thinks they failed, her father was right and the city must be destroy.

In Inception, Dom must go against Mal even if he still has feelings for her. Okay, his Mal is not the real Mal, but even if Bruce still has feelings for Tate, what is he supposed to do? Let her destroy the city? I think he knows she has been brainwashed by his father!
And he did not even destroy the truck, he destroyed the tumblers. I think he's just trying to stop the truck.
Then, there's the whole Catwoman thing, she seems to leave the City Hall even before Tate enters the City Hall but then there's a pic of her and the truck!
I don't know, I think there are so many things we don't know, but I don't think Tate is pure evil and that all she wants is revenge.

I think you might be right. Guys, what do ya think..

Spoiler

Batman seems to be continuing on without any problems, goes after Talia and the mercenaries with The Bat, tries to dispose of the device, hugs Catwoman and says whatever to Gordon. That whole time he seems to be fine and that's after the City Hall incident.

To me, Talia stabs Bane because like the recent spoilers say..Bane has a past with the League but was thrown out because his methods were way too extreme. Even for them. Which probably means, for Talia as well. Her and Bane most likely have a huge past with each other much like Rachel and Bruce growing up but that's where it ends. It's as if Talia is carrying on her fathers legacy and mentality and is there to help Gotham's economy because she's there to do good and save the city. Ra's always thought he was the "good guy". Because Bane has f'd up everyones plans and the city is almost crippled, she feels she's got no other choice but to put Gotham out of its misery and "help" the city. Batman (like with his experiences with Ras) doesnt agree.

Maybe Talia loves Bruce at this point but has to carry this through. She's brainwashed. Killing Bane is one thing, but maybe his mercenaries decide to follow her when Bane is almost down & out. They switch loyalties, cuz theyve come too far and well, she's gonna wipe the city out anyway. So why not? I almost think Batman might change his mind at this point and break his rule and go to kill Bane (IF he has to) or kill Talia if he must. This city is about to become dust, he can't think of his ethics anymore regarding Bane & Talia & merc's , he must get that bomb, strap it to The Bat and get rid of it. Talia just beats him to the punch in killing Bane, and well...it saves Batman the trouble of doing something he really never wanted to do. Kill.

Miranda looks focused with her mission walking out of City Hall, but looks extremely sad because she loves Bruce and because she once cared for Bane but not anymore. We'll probably see her pretty shocked and in panic in one of the trucks when she realizes Batmans going after her at all costs

 

[kvz5]

Spoiler

The more I think about it, the more I think she will stab Bane not Batman.
I don't understand what happens there. She comes inside the City Hall, Batman and Bane are fighting, Batman is winning but she stabs him. But then we don't see Bane anymore. So Batman has been stabbed but he's strong enough to continue the fighting since he escapes and uses the Bat!
I have read a theory about Catwoman being the one to kill Bane because Batman won't do it but, I think that if someone does it, it's going to be Talia. She will be the one to do what is "necessary".
Plus, she doesn't seems to enjoy it in the City Hall or the trial pics. She seems more sad than amused to me.

I may be totally wrong but I believe she really wants to save Gotham. I believe she's not a fan of Bane and she really likes Bruce, but in the end after the whole Scarecrow thing, after seeing how low Gotham has fallen, she thinks they failed, her father was right and the city must be destroy.

In Inception, Dom must go against Mal even if he still has feelings for her. Okay, his Mal is not the real Mal, but even if Bruce still has feelings for Tate, what is he supposed to do? Let her destroy the city? I think he knows she has been brainwashed by his father!
And he did not even destroy the truck, he destroyed the tumblers. I think he's just trying to stop the truck.
Then, there's the whole Catwoman thing, she seems to leave the City Hall even before Tate enters the City Hall but then there's a pic of her and the truck!
I don't know, I think there are so many things we don't know, but I don't think Tate is pure evil and that all she wants is revenge.

I think you might be right. Guys, what do ya think..

Spoiler

Batman seems to be continuing on without any problems, goes after Talia and the mercenaries with The Bat, tries to dispose of the device, hugs Catwoman and says whatever to Gordon. That whole time he seems to be fine and that's after the City Hall incident.

To me, Talia stabs Bane because like the recent spoilers say..Bane has a past with the League but was thrown out because his methods were way too extreme. Even for them. Which probably means, for Talia as well. Her and Bane most likely have a huge past with each other much like Rachel and Bruce growing up but that's where it ends. It's as if Talia is carrying on her fathers legacy and mentality and is there to help Gotham's economy because she's there to do good and save the city. Ra's always thought he was the "good guy". Because Bane has f'd up everyones plans and the city is almost crippled, she feels she's got no other choice but to put Gotham out of its misery and "help" the city. Batman (like with his experiences with Ras) doesnt agree.

Maybe Talia loves Bruce at this point but has to carry this through. She's brainwashed. Killing Bane is one thing, but maybe his mercenaries decide to follow her when Bane is almost down & out. They switch loyalties, cuz theyve come too far and well, she's gonna wipe the city out anyway. So why not? I almost think Batman might change his mind at this point and break his rule and go to kill Bane (IF he has to) or kill Talia if he must. This city is about to become dust, he can't think of his ethics anymore regarding Bane & Talia & merc's , he must get that bomb, strap it to The Bat and get rid of it. Talia just beats him to the punch in killing Bane, and well...it saves Batman the trouble of doing something he really never wanted to do. Kill.

Miranda looks focused with her mission walking out of City Hall, but looks extremely sad because she loves Bruce and because she once cared for Bane but not anymore. We'll probably see her pretty shocked and in panic in one of the trucks when she realizes Batmans going after her at all costs

I wouldn't be opposed to that. I think it'll be a good surprise to those of us who already knows her true identity and is expecting her to betray Bats.

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I do find it interesting that they made it a point to say that Bane was cast out of the LoS and is starting his own. Why not just make his history part of the LoS? That might be because they were trying to incorporate his story with Talia's. If the novelization is to be followed, Talia had a great relationship with Ra's so it seems odd to me that she's working freely with Bane if he was cast out by her father. So we might see two opposing LoS - Bane's and Talia's.

Then again, Bane's right hand man was guarding Talia in those set pics. Did he switch sides? Or is he following Talia now that Bane is dead/defeated?

 

[Cassandra Cain]

The new Batman Incorporated is released on June 20th. It seems to have a Talia al Ghul origin story of sorts, oddly enough, by Morrison:

Spoiler

No bald 'lil Talia?

 

[GrimmReaper7]

Personally I would dislike that scenario of Talia killing Bane despite the fact that its looking a likely scenario. IDK it just rubs me the wrong way id rather see Batman and Bane have a final showdown with Catwoman possibly finishing him off rather than Talia just coming out of nowhere and stabbing Bane and having the finale be a chase.

 

[kvz5]

If I had my way, I don't want either Talia or Catwoman ending Bane. I'd prefer that he takes his own life because he can't stand being defeated by Batman.