Mass Effect 3 - Part 2

[Tron Bonne]

Actually I am.

Well, see, there you go. Even then you can't, because Shepard is a full time working Shemale.

MASS EFFECT: INVASION #1 (of 4)
Mac Walters (W), John Jackson Miller (W), Omar Francia (A), Michael Atiyeh (C), Massimo Carnevale (Cover), and Paul Renaud (25th anniversary variant cover)
On sale Oct 19
FC, 32 pages
$3.50
Miniseries

An essential new story from the Mass Effect 3 universe!

The Omega space station is the center of lawlessness in the galaxy, a den of vice ruled by the deadly asari Aria. It is also a strategic foothold in a galaxy-wide power struggle, and when the station comes under attack from a new threat unleashed by the humanity-first organization Cerberus, Aria is forced to become more ruthless than ever to protect her home—and her dominion!

• Mass Effect 2 sold two million copies in one week!

Oh, that reminds me, I was planning to check out the DH comic. I think it was Corp who said it ended up being a surprising good read.

 

[Benstamania]

Well, see, there you go. Even then you can't, because Shepard is a full time working Shemale.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

Alternate cover for Invasion

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

https://***********/#!/ehlien/status/89728396971614208

"With @PWatamaniuk back in the studio this week, our team was plugging away on Secret Feature X. Gameplay room was buzzing! #excited #ME3"

And before somebody asked and they confirmed it wasn't multiplayer.

 

[Spider-Vader]

Now that the dust has settled, I think we can will all agree that the film should be centered around the varied and exciting exploits of Zaeed Massani.

The title? "BIG GODDAMN HEROES"

This...NOW!

 

[PWN3R]

Edward James Olmos for Zaeed!

 

[Benstamania]

Spideyfan's signature is my ringtone. Thank you Zedge wallpapers & Ringtones.

 

[Soapy]

https://***********/#!/ehlien/status/89728396971614208

"With @PWatamaniuk back in the studio this week, our team was plugging away on Secret Feature X. Gameplay room was buzzing! #excited #ME3"

And before somebody asked and they confirmed it wasn't multiplayer.

I'm very curious what this could be.

 

[Swordmaster]

Maybe single player versions of a swarm-type game mode? That's...the only thing that comes to mind, really.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

I'm very curious what this could be.

I'm trying to think of what we haven't seen thus far...

Maybe a new vehicle?

Space combat?

 

[X Knight]

if they do make a Mass Effect movie, I'd prefer if it they DID NOT focus on Shepard.

Make it a prequel of sorts about the First Contact War or when humanity first discovered the whole Mass Effect concept.

If Shepard is referenced, do it by name only to make it gender, class, history neutral.

Even though there is a Shepard used in all the marketing, the fact that Shepard is a customizable character means that we all have our "own canon Shepards."

Besides, Shepard's story is told in the game trilogy. I don't think I'd be interested in seeing it again on the big screen. I'd rather explore other areas/periods not covered in the games.

 

[Matt]

"10 Things Mass Effect Fans Must Know From Novels and Comics"


http://www.newsarama.com/games/10-m...ect-novels-comics-mass-effect-3-110707-1.html


They do a bit too much speculation for my taste considering the article is supposed to be informative, I especially don't believe the Illusive Man is indoctrinated and ultimately outside of Kai Leng and Maybe Kahlee showing up I don't think the novels/comics will factor all that heavily into the games.

Going back to this... Honestly what threw this entire thing "off" for me was the very first "thing". He writes that Kahlee being a strong woman in the novels is a good case for "female Shepard" I assume being the "canon Shepard."

That to me just sounded like a guy who has a FemShep and really wants to prove that his Shep is "canon."

And there in lies my problem with the article as well. At least 50 % of that article can be summed up as the writer desperately trying to prove that Bioware has confirmed that the writer's Mass Effect story is the "canon," Mass Effect story.

What writers like that (and many fans) fail to understand is that there is NO canon Mass Effect story. This entire franchise is all about the individual's choice. The producers of this game have gone out of their way to assure that every player can develop the universe in whatever way they see fit and with whatever choices they see fit. In the producers' eyes, the only canon Mass Effect story, is the story that the individual player is having.

The Mass Effect franchise is bound to expand following ME3, but I would be very suprised if the producers ever released any game that contradicts the individual choices that a player can make in the trilogy.

 

[El Bastardo]

And there in lies my problem with the article as well. At least 50 % of that article can be summed up as the writer desperately trying to prove that Bioware has confirmed that the writer's Mass Effect story is the "canon," Mass Effect story.

What writers like that (and many fans) fail to understand is that there is NO canon Mass Effect story. This entire franchise is all about the individual's choice. The producers of this game have gone out of their way to assure that every player can develop the universe in whatever way they see fit and with whatever choices they see fit. In the producers' eyes, the only canon Mass Effect story, is the story that the individual player is having.

The Mass Effect franchise is bound to expand following ME3, but I would be very suprised if the producers ever released any game that contradicts the individual choices that a player can make in the trilogy.

+1

Could not have stated it better.
Probably would have stated it with more d-baggery.

What can I say? It's a gift and a curse.

 

[X Knight]

And there in lies my problem with the article as well. At least 50 % of that article can be summed up as the writer desperately trying to prove that Bioware has confirmed that the writer's Mass Effect story is the "canon," Mass Effect story.

What writers like that (and many fans) fail to understand is that there is NO canon Mass Effect story. This entire franchise is all about the individual's choice. The producers of this game have gone out of their way to assure that every player can develop the universe in whatever way they see fit and with whatever choices they see fit. In the producers' eyes, the only canon Mass Effect story, is the story that the individual player is having.

The Mass Effect franchise is bound to expand following ME3, but I would be very suprised if the producers ever released any game that contradicts the individual choices that a player can make in the trilogy.

well said!

hence why I believe a Mass Effect movie should NOT focus on Shepard.

 

[Matt]

I personally think it should as it is an epic story with great themes and characters. It'll just be another person's version of the tale (in this case the director's). It doesn't contradict or cheapen ours. It is just their take told over a different medium.

 

[X Knight]

I personally think it should as it is an epic story with great themes and characters. It'll just be another person's version of the tale (in this case the director's). It doesn't contradict or cheapen ours. It is just their take told over a different medium.

you mean.......it would follow the same story arc but focus on a different set of characters, with a new protagonist, and tell the tale through their perspective?

I just don't see how, if Shepard is involved at all, you would be able to tell that story without solidifying a "canon" Shepard............

the only way I could see it is if you just reference Shepard's name, without specifying gender, class, background, etc.......

 

[PWN3R]

I personally think it should as it is an epic story with great themes and characters. It'll just be another person's version of the tale (in this case the director's). It doesn't contradict or cheapen ours. It is just their take told over a different medium.

It's a bingo!

I don't understand how people can't see it as a separate take on the character. Just because the movie may possibly deal with Shepard, doesn't suddenly mean the game is meaningless. It's merely one version of the story. Look at Scott Pilgrim. The comic has one ending, the film has a slightly different take, and the game has like, 5, different endings I believe. Bryan Lee O'Malley said he wanted each medium to offer something different.

The beauty of what Bioware has done is its decision making process, and a film would take that away, naturally. So, may as well except it and enjoy it for what it could be.

Then again, the universe is so huge, and I'd much rather see a Grunt and Zaeed violent bromance explosion comedy. Either way, Mass Effect movie? My money, take it.

 

[Master Chief]

ughhh not again.

A movie with Shepard would be bad enough because it will contradict how some people created him/her if they consider the movie canon, but a movie based on the first game would be like watching a glorified "Let's Play" series; That normally wouldn't be bad but the story is too epic to translate well to film. I mean, the whole intro up until Shepard is given SPECTRE status could be its own movie. It would be a wasted opportunity to breathe more life into the established universe but whatever, I'm apparently just a nitpicky fan.

About the article tho, there's a lot of good info in there regardless of the writer's personal touches.

 

[PWN3R]

I'm not trying to reignite this argument again, I'm not.

ughhh not again.

A movie with Shepard would be bad enough because it will contradict how some people created him/her if they consider the movie canon, but a movie based on the first game would be like watching a glorified "Let's Play" series; That normally wouldn't be bad but the story is too epic to translate well to film. I mean, the whole intro up until Shepard is given SPECTRE status could be its own movie. It would be a wasted opportunity to breathe more life into the established universe but whatever, I'm apparently just a nitpicky fan.

About the article tho, there's a lot of good info in there regardless of the writer's personal touches.

I just can't understand this part. Help me out. Why can't we, as fans, separate the story-lines? Why does the film have to be canon? Who says the film has to rehash the first game's plot? That's impossible anyway.

I'm simply saying, an adaption involving Shepard wouldn't be the end of the world. It could be a brand new story, hell, she/he could even be a supporting character!

That would NOT make the game useless, and the writers, if they're smart, don't have to regurgitate the games.

 

[Tron Bonne]

I just don't really get why we just get stuck on the whole Shepard aspect when that's really not even the most important aspect of the argument against a direct adaptation of the ME storyline. It's just one thing amongst a pile of many others.

But I'm not getting into this again, anyway. It seems the argument just boils down into one side who wants to see the ME story translated into film because it's awesome, and the other side trying to point at the inherent flaws in trying to do that, even without really disputing that point. Kind of strange really, I almost get the feeling that though we've in the same argument, there's two different wavelengths being surfed.

I just can't understand this part. Help me out. Why can't we, as fans, separate the story-lines? Why does the film have to be canon? Who says the film has to rehash the first game's plot? That's impossible anyway.

I'm simply saying, an adaption involving Shepard wouldn't be the end of the world. It could be a brand new story, hell, she/he could even be a supporting character!

That would NOT make the game useless, and the writers, if they're smart, don't have to regurgitate the games.

If you're going to use Shepard, I don't see how you can avoid at least using some of that story. Unless it's a situation like I mentioned earlier were it's just an entirely and completely different story unrecognizable from anything ME, but I think that brings up an entirely different set of issues. I really just don't think they'd use that character as a supporting character, either.

 

[PWN3R]

Who's making this movie? Legendary Pictures? I don't know...

But the point is they're making this movie for a new audience. Unless we're jumping the gun and it's some lame direct-to-video, god. But, more than likely, those who view the film aren't going to dedicate 100+ hours across 3 games like we have/will.

You have valid points about not using Shepard. I just don't understand why it's one or the other. The film could never hope to compete with the games anyway.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Who's making this movie? Legendary Pictures? I don't know...

But the point is they're making this movie for a new audience. Unless we're jumping the gun and it's some lame direct-to-video, god. But, more than likely, those who view the film aren't going to dedicate 100+ hours across 3 games like we have/will.

You have valid points about not using Shepard. I just don't understand why it's one or the other. The film could never hope to compete with the games anyway.

Well, as I've mentioned before, I think the lack of GA knowledge is kind of a bad argument for this being just a retelling of the main games. The fact that they don't have knowledge to the point most think means we can do just about anything. They could make side stories or prequels or sequels, and they'd be none the wiser, and they would have the same kind of attempt to sell it since the GA is of ignorant bliss about it.

The argument against using Shepard is mainly one that goes along with not trying to directly adapt ME as a whole. If you're just talking about using the character in a story that's totally disconnected from ME's main story, it just seems pointless, because they could make a new character all together since they are essentially making their own character anyway since Shepard has no characterization by itself.

There's more I could say about it, I guess, but I think it's all been said in the last couple of pages.

 

[PWN3R]

Heh, it really has been said. Sorry to bring it back up. It's weird, I agree with everything you, Soapy, and Spideyfan have said. Ever the voice of reason.

I just can't help, for obviously stupid reasons that have been pointed out, but want to see some type of Shepard blowing **** up on screen.

 

[Master Chief]

I'm not trying to reignite this argument again, I'm not.


I just can't understand this part. Help me out. Why can't we, as fans, separate the story-lines? Why does the film have to be canon? Who says the film has to rehash the first game's plot? That's impossible anyway.

I'm simply saying, an adaption involving Shepard wouldn't be the end of the world. It could be a brand new story, hell, she/he could even be a supporting character!

That would NOT make the game useless, and the writers, if they're smart, don't have to regurgitate the games.

Why wouldn't the film be canon? Anyway even in the comics Shepard is never referred to by gender. The thing is if I see Shepard acting in ways that contradict how I would have reacted it would spoil the experience for me. With Scott Pilgrim the story changed but he was still very much the character fans of the comic knew.

If the remedy for seeing a version of Shepard in a film that doesn't fall in line with the origin/gender/morality of my version is to pretend they're set in different universes... that's pretty lame.

I just don't really get why we just get stuck on the whole Shepard aspect when that's really not even the most important aspect of the argument against a direct adaptation of the ME storyline. It's just one thing amongst a pile of many others.

Shepard being portrayed is what I'm stuck on because the fact that the first game's story can't be done justice in movie format goes without saying.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Despite my personal opinions of it, whatever they decide to do, I hope ends up being good regardless. Though, I admit, if they do try to do something along the lines of adapting the game's story/plot, I will probably just skip it and wait for home video release, unless I hear stellar things about it all around or something.