MCU: The Marvel Cinematic Universe Official Discussion - Part 3

[marcvader]

We really do need some good games. And not crappy movie-tie in ones either.

Well, duh...

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Like somebody needs to revive & update this project asap

 

[MbJ]

It's hard to get good movie-based games because they usually have shorter production periods and since they have such a negative reputation, really talented pros tend not to work on them.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

That's why I mentioned them specifically.

 

[MbJ]

Most definitely! Adapt the classics, now!

They're not likely to do animated movies, at least ones set in the MCU, because they'd likely be contradicted by later movies anyway.

This is a problem with licensed works taking place in movieverses in general anyway, since most directors and writers aren't going to drop their ideas because someone already used the same idea in a tie-in video game or comic or something.

 

[PunyGod]

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[Lord]

The problem with movie tie-ins is that they have a short production time, but what if instead of that, they just did a video game set in the MCU? possibly bridging the gap between two stories (be them movies or even tv shows), making it an entity of its oun, instead of just having it share the title of the released movie, this way they wouldn't need to give the game a rushed production, sort of like what the Chronicles of Riddick games did, or better yet, the Star Wars games, things like Battlefront and Force Unleashed were their oun entities and thanks to that, were given the proper time of development.

One example could be an Iron Man or Guardians of the Galaxy video game tying up what happens between the movies, or an Hulk origin game. You can do a lot with these properties, even though i'm not particularly fond of Guardians, they have a lot of potential for video games, even for original stories that just have them exploring and adventuring in space.

Or if you want a beat em up type of game, then may i suggest Thanos? Maybe you could even have a what-it scenario where he goes after the gems, like in Thanos Quest.

 

[Johnny-Oh]

We really do need some good games. And not crappy movie-tie in ones either.

I agree, the games should have to be a separate universe, there is a lot of potential that Im surprised they haven't done anything like that yet.

 

[ShadowBoxer]

The problem with movie tie-ins is that they have a short production time, but what if instead of that, they just did a video game set in the MCU? possibly bridging the gap between two stories (be them movies or even tv shows), making it an entity of its oun, instead of just having it share the title of the released movie, this way they wouldn't need to give the game a rushed production, sort of like what the Chronicles of Riddick games did, or better yet, the Star Wars games, things like Battlefront and Force Unleashed were their oun entities and thanks to that, were given the proper time of development.

One example could be an Iron Man or Guardians of the Galaxy video game tying up what happens between the movies, or an Hulk origin game. You can do a lot with these properties, even though i'm not particularly fond of Guardians, they have a lot of potential for video games, even for original stories that just have them exploring and adventuring in space.

Or if you want a beat em up type of game, then may i suggest Thanos? Maybe you could even have a what-it scenario where he goes after the gems, like in Thanos Quest.

That's a pretty good idea for Marvel to have next gen games set in the Marvel Cinematic Universe that bridges the gap between say Iron Man 3 and Avengers Age of Ultron etc. And what the heck you didn't like Guardians of the Galaxy???

 

[David_99]

I just rewatched Guardians of the Galaxy and this caught my eye. When talking about Peter's Dad, is it just me or...

Spoiler

 

[Iceman]

Like somebody needs to revive & update this project asap

There's some nice stuff there. Disney look like they're going for it on planned Star Wars games so maybe they'll see the light on Marvel games soon too.

 

[Kiltman]

The problem with movie tie-ins is that they have a short production time, but what if instead of that, they just did a video game set in the MCU? possibly bridging the gap between two stories (be them movies or even tv shows), making it an entity of its oun, instead of just having it share the title of the released movie, this way they wouldn't need to give the game a rushed production, sort of like what the Chronicles of Riddick games did, or better yet, the Star Wars games, things like Battlefront and Force Unleashed were their oun entities and thanks to that, were given the proper time of development.

One example could be an Iron Man or Guardians of the Galaxy video game tying up what happens between the movies, or an Hulk origin game. You can do a lot with these properties, even though i'm not particularly fond of Guardians, they have a lot of potential for video games, even for original stories that just have them exploring and adventuring in space.

Or if you want a beat em up type of game, then may i suggest Thanos? Maybe you could even have a what-it scenario where he goes after the gems, like in Thanos Quest.

It'd be great to have it included into the MCU like all Star Wars games now are canon.

It'd be cool to see them do a Hulk origin game I agree.

1) you can show him going nuts and actually fighting the military unlike they could do in the films

2) you could age down Ruffalo much more convincingly than you could in a film.



I thought a Hawkeye game set between Avengers 1 and 2 could be good. Bow Mechanics are usually always fun, and it'd be a way to learn more about him.

And I know they already made one, but a 3rd person WW2 Action game deserves a better team and effort behind it. Basically have the whole montage period and can use all his WW2 villains and allies that are now left behind.

 

[CGHulk]

These flaws in the MCU films really bother me.

Iron Man 2 - Before Tony realizes Kate Mara is there to give his sopena he's hitting on her, while he's in a committed relationship with Pepper, what a jerk! Tony hitting on Agent Romanov in front of Pepper is really disrespectful to her. The camera focussed on Romanov's butt in her reveal as a Shield Agent is really sexist. The skimpy outfits the dancer wear at the Stark Expo really objectifies them. Basically Tony is just an all around dick throughout the whole movie, a really unlikable guy! On the roof top Rhodey some how lands behind Tony and Pepper without them hearing him land.

Thor - Thor's emotional journey and his turn around happened to quickly. Jane's character was over the top acted by Portman.

Captain America: The First Avenger - He didn't have to crash the ship at the end since the tesseract was no longer on board to power the bombs.

Iron Man 3 - The Iron Man suit doesn't have to be recharge by a car battery when the arc reactor in Tony's chest is able to do that. Removing the arc reactor in Tony's chest cancels out the danger he faced in film 2, he could of just had the surgery. It wasn't shown how Rhodey broke free from Killian's thugs to meet up with Tony. It isn't explained why Killian's thugs wanted the files from the mother in Tennessee at that point in the story and how nicely Tony happened to be there at the same time. For all they knew was that Tony was dead.

Thor: The Dark World - Heimdall can see everything but he couldn't see the big enemy ship that was on its way to Asgard? Lucky Thor and Jane found the opening back to Earth in a cave, and lucky her car keys were in the cave too. Darcy was damn annoying, and Selvig running around naked was a lame attempt at humor too. At the end of the movie its not explained if Loki killed Odin and take his place or not? Somehow Jane sees Malekith's evil plan when he removes the Aether from her. Odin's a complete jerk in this film, where he's talking down about Earthlings and their mortality with Jane right there in the room.

 

[PunyGod]

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[Silvermoon]

Captain America: The First Avenger - He didn't have to crash the ship at the end since the tesseract was no longer on board to power the bombs.

The tesseract also wasn't there to power the ship either. I doubt he had enough 'energy reserves' to turn around and make it back to the Hydra base and make a safe landing (and that's assuming the landing gear even works, considering he crashed one of those mini-planes into the back end/underside where the landing gear usually is). He felt the safest bet was to put it in the water to avoid potentially risking innocent lives and given his mentality (as we saw with the grenade), he'll see it through to the very end and won't bail out early.

I had no problem with this.

(I respectfully disagree with all your other points too... but just my opinion)

 

[Destructus86]

btw Emily Blunt would not be a great Captain Marvel. She would be the PERFECT Captain Marvel.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Captain America: The First Avenger - He didn't have to crash the ship at the end since the tesseract was no longer on board to power the bombs.

The bombs were already powered up via Zola's tech whether the Tesseract was onboard or not. Just like Hydra soldiers rifles - they couldn't all have been carrying the cube with them.

Lucky Thor and Jane found the opening back to Earth in a cave, and lucky her car keys were in the cave too.

ALL the crap Jane, Darcy and the kids were tossing through the portal was there. No coincidence, no luck.

(I respectfully disagree with all your other points too... but just my opinion)

Indeed. Most of them are just personal preferences anyway.

 

[Dark Raven]

The bombs were already powered up via Zola's tech whether the Tesseract was onboard or not. Just like Hydra soldiers rifles - they couldn't all have been carrying the cube with them.



ALL the crap Jane, Darcy and the kids were tossing through the portal was there. No coincidence, no luck.



Indeed. Most of them are just personal preferences anyway.

Although it was a bit of a silly scene, that was really just a set up (albeit rather contrived one) for later on so that Thor and Jane could find their way back to earth via that cave.

 

[Loki882]

I agree that TFA didn't a great job of justifying why Cap had to do what he did, or at least the WAY that he did it. It's part of the problem with the second half of the movie. It wasn't BAD per se, but it was rather rushed in order to set up for The Avengers. "Hey, we have Cap's years of fighting WWII. It all looks really interesting and it's probably what a lot of the viewers came to see. So let's gloss over like three years of it in one three minute montage so that we can set up for a future movie." Such wasted potential, and I say that as someone who LIKES the movie. The ending goes into that. "Well we need to get him frozen SOMEHOW so that he can be in The Avengers." I don't think that they put as much thought into that sequence as they really should have.

The entire plot of TDW was contrived in order to crowbar more Jane Foster into the movie. The convergence, her conveniently being the one to find/be possessed by the Aether just as the Dark Elves were waking up, etc. It's like they realized that there was no way to naturally fit her into the plot without using big plot contrivances. And yes, Heimdall's "all-seeing" powers are only "all-seeing" when it's convenient for the plot. Odin's characterization doesn't really line up with his portrayal in the first film, I hated that the took the "straight-man" of the first movie and turned him into comic relief in a movie that already had too much of that (seriously, the comic relief sidekick gets HER OWN comic relief sidekick). That entire movie was disappointing, easily the weakest MCU outing thus far.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

I agree that TFA didn't a great job of justifying why Cap had to do what he did, or at least the WAY that he did it. It's part of the problem with the second half of the movie. It wasn't BAD per se, but it was rather rushed in order to set up for The Avengers. "Hey, we have Cap's years of fighting WWII. It all looks really interesting and it's probably what a lot of the viewers came to see. So let's gloss over like three years of it in one three minute montage so that we can set up for a future movie." Such wasted potential, and I say that as someone who LIKES the movie. The ending goes into that. "Well we need to get him frozen SOMEHOW so that he can be in The Avengers." I don't think that they put as much thought into that sequence as they really should have.

The entire plot of TDW was contrived in order to crowbar more Jane Foster into the movie. The convergence, her conveniently being the one to find/be possessed by the Aether just as the Dark Elves were waking up, etc. It's like they realized that there was no way to naturally fit her into the plot without using big plot contrivances. And yes, Heimdall's "all-seeing" powers are only "all-seeing" when it's convenient for the plot. Odin's characterization doesn't really line up with his portrayal in the first film, I hated that the took the "straight-man" of the first movie and turned him into comic relief in a movie that already had too much of that (seriously, the comic relief sidekick gets HER OWN comic relief sidekick). That entire movie was disappointing, easily the weakest MCU outing thus far.

TDW's plot may have been a little convoluted but I disagree it was contrived. It wasn't convenient that Jane found the convergence. It was explained in the movie that the reason she found it was because she was searching for anomalies that would lead her to Thor but stumbled upon the convergence instead. She had first hand experience with this stuff. She of all people would certainly find it.

The Dark Elves predated Heimdall and even predated this universe. As a result they possessed sufficient cloaking technology to not only conceal themselves from his sight but to even pass between the realms without the Bifrost. That's why they were such a threat. It was the one enemy Asgard could not see.

Odin's characterization is a man in grief who is not much different from his son. Where does Thor get his arrogance and obstinence from anyway? Just because they patched things up in the first film doesn't mean it's all sunshine and roses between the two of them from here on out. That's not real life at all.

And Ian throwing the car keys in the portal was hysterical.

I'll never understand the hate this film gets.

 

[SlamAdams]

I'll never understand the hate this film gets.

I remember liking it a lot more than the first one, but I have only seen it the once.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I'll never understand the hate this film gets.

There are legitimate criticisms (Malekith was woefully underdeveloped, for one) but yeah a lot of complaints are either really reaching or not issues at all. Same happens with every superhero flick though.

 

[Art Freak]

There are legitimate criticisms (Malekith was woefully underdeveloped, for one) but yeah a lot of complaints are either really reaching or not issues at all. Same happens with every superhero flick though.

I wish this could be a sticky statement on every comic book movie board on every single website.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

There are legitimate criticisms (Malekith was woefully underdeveloped, for one) but yeah a lot of complaints are either really reaching or not issues at all. Same happens with every superhero flick though.

True enough. But Malekith was originally meant to be a larger part of the film before they enlarged Loki's role. In the end Malekith served more as a McGuffin to move the plot forward while further developing Loki's arc instead. And Loki was awesome in this film. I've noticed that everyone who criticizes Malekith ignores this.

As a result, I don't have a problem with Malekith's reduced role but I would certainly like to see an extended edition at some point. The Malekith scenes that both Taylor and Eccleston have referred to have never seen the light of day. They were not in any of the deleted scenes on the Blu Ray or extras online. Maybe it will be on the massive MCU Phases 1-3 Blu Ray collection 10 years from now. Those bastards at Disney want us to keep rebuying this stuff.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

I wish this could be a sticky statement on every comic book movie board on every single website.

LOL. Indeed.