Most disappointing movie of 2012? (so far)

Most disappointing film of 2012 (so far)

  • The Avengers

  • The Dark Knight Rises

  • The Amazing Spider-Man

  • Prometheus

  • Men in Black III

  • Total Recall

  • Bourne Legacy

  • Battleship

  • Dark Shadows

  • Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter

  • Snow White and the Huntsman

  • Ted

  • Brave

  • Moonrise Kingdom

  • The Hunger Games

  • Other (please mention)


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But that was the goal of the film, to feature it on the characters and why they got together, etc. IMO if the film introduced new villains or had a more complex plot, the film would have fell off a little bit.

Regardless, the story, in my opinion, wasn't a memorable one. It was very forgettable. I found myself more invested in the characters than in the story.

I honestly felt more emotion when Coulson died than any moment in the TDKR. All three times I saw it in theaters, the audience literally went silent; you could hear a pin drop. And this from the same movie that generated more applause than any I have ever attended.

That's great and all, but I didn't (and neither did the opening night crowd at my showing -- several laughed and a few made comments). It was quite emotionless. However, Nolan and Caine, singlehandedly, owned the emotional aspect between the two films. Alfred's pleads to Bruce carried more weight than Stark's brooding.
 
Regardless, the story, in my opinion, wasn't a memorable one. It was very forgettable. I found myself more invested in the characters than in the story.


That's great and all, but I didn't (and neither did the opening night crowd at my showing -- several laughed and a few made comments). It was quite emotionless. However, Nolan and Caine, singlehandedly, owned the emotional aspect between the two films. Alfred's pleads to Bruce carried more weight than Stark's brooding.

Yeah I agree but that is why in large part I liked the Avengers considerably over TDKR. I liked the plots in Nolan's trilogy but I've never really felt any emotion outside of Caine and Oldman. I love character pieces like Avengers, 12 Angry Men, Stagecoach, etc over plot driven films but that's just me.

We really must have been surrounded by different types of audiences. I thought the TDKR was at least decent, but my opening night experience was awful. People were groaning and laughing sarcastically at the Bane "reveal", Robin mention, and a couple others. It was also the only opening night movie I've ever attended that didn't end with an applause. I was personally disappointed in the movie but really? Show some respect lol

But here we are using "audiences" to gauge movies lol I'm so sick of this TDKR/Avengers topic so let's not put that filth in this thread.:yay:
 
^ It's because in order for the MCU to continue they have to live, so there's always going to be a lack of threat toward the hero, unlike TDKR in which you were never sure if Bruce was going to live or not. In fact I'm willing to bet few major characters are ever going to be killed off in Marvel's movies.

Come on man... Batman actually die? At the end of the day, the hero wins. I know I was pretty convinced but in retrospect... with these things, it's about the tension and uncertainty within the moment. If they can make me forget about franchises and sequels and have me focus in that moment of peril, then I'm set.
 
Brave, by far for me. One of the most flat second halves I've seen in recent time, and it's even worse that it was made by Pixar.

I still have faith in Pixar's ability to make quality films... even though I'm not sure what to make of the Finding Nemo sequels rumors.
 
Yeah I agree but that is why in large part I liked the Avengers considerably over TDKR. I liked the plots in Nolan's trilogy but I've never really felt any emotion outside of Caine and Oldman. I love character pieces like Avengers, 12 Angry Men, Stagecoach, etc over plot driven films but that's just me.

I guess that's where we differ, then. I've always found more emotion in Nolan's Dark Knight Trilogy than anything Marvel Studios' has released, thus far. To me, Oldman, Caine, Bale and Eckhart delivered (in abundance) a sizable amount of powerful scenes.

We really must have been surrounded by different types of audiences. I thought the TDKR was at least decent, but my opening night experience was awful. People were groaning and laughing sarcastically at the Bane "reveal", Robin mention, and a couple others. It was also the only opening night movie I've ever attended that didn't end with an applause. I was personally disappointed in the movie but really? Show some respect lol

Eh, crowds are unpredictable. My crowd didn't give The Avengers an ovation, but they still loved it. People were saying nothing but positive things about the film in the lobby. For TDKR, I got a thunderous ovation at my opening night showing, but got a scattered applause the following night for my second showing (then another ovation a week later).

Incidentally, I prefer quiet crowds myself.

But here we are using "audiences" to gauge movies lol I'm so sick of this TDKR/Avengers topic so let's not put that filth in this thread.:yay:

I loved both, but there were numerous irks. I'm just glad neither one disappointed me.
 
For me it was American Reunion. I obviously didn't expect a masterpiece there, but outside of a few Stifler scenes the movie really wasn't that funny, and the reunion aspect with the class was minuscule. But as a moderate fan of the first two AP movies I hoped for a little more.
 
Why do people applaud at movies? It's not like the director or cast of the film are there.
 
I'd have to say 'Brave.'
It wasn't exactly a bad film, it had its moments (The scene in the beginning with Merida riding on her horse and shooting arrows was cool, and the mischievous brothers and the brawl scene were funny, plus the short right before it was great), but I and others I know who saw it thought it was a letdown.
The story wasn't as good as it could have been, the Witch was a completely wasted character (She could have been Pixar's version of Ursula from 'The Little Mermaid'; Instead, she appears in two scenes and is never seen again, and we know next to nothing about her), and most of the twists I could see coming a mile away.
I really expected better from Pixar.
 
Regardless, the story, in my opinion, wasn't a memorable one. It was very forgettable. I found myself more invested in the characters than in the story.



That's great and all, but I didn't (and neither did the opening night crowd at my showing -- several laughed and a few made comments). It was quite emotionless. However, Nolan and Caine, singlehandedly, owned the emotional aspect between the two films. Alfred's pleads to Bruce carried more weight than Stark's brooding.

I like Caine, but I got sick of all his crying. I swear every other scene was him bubbling like a schoolgirl. I wish he had shown his emotional range without constantly resorting to tears. Once is okay, but c'mon.
 
Why do people applaud at movies? It's not like the director or cast of the film are there.

To express themselves in what they just saw. It's not about the person being there, it's about the film that you just saw and how it effected you.
 
To express themselves in what they just saw. It's not about the person being there, it's about the film that you just saw and how it effected you.
Whatever. I also find it completely ridiculous if no one who worked on the project is there. What, you can't express yourself through thinking "hmmm.... yeah, I liked that film. I think I'll twitter about it later." You gotta look like a buffoon clapping at a screen? I'm sure the projectionist appreciates your approval.
 
Whatever. I also find it completely ridiculous if no one who worked on the project is there. What, you can't express yourself through thinking "hmmm.... yeah, I liked that film. I think I'll twitter about it later." You gotta look like a buffoon clapping at a screen? I'm sure the projectionist appreciates your approval.

Okay, so that doesn't fit your idea of expressing yourself and that's fine. But you know, other people actually like to clap, like myself, when you enjoy yourself. There's nothing wrong with it at all. It's just an expression of what you saw and you're sharing it with everyone when they join. The person doesn't need to be there. The movie is for the audience.

People applauded at the end of TDKR because they loved it. It's a sign of how much they did. It's a positive thing and shouldn't be looked down upon because you don't agree with it.

It's reacting to a film. Whether you laugh or cry, applauding is another expression of it. It's when you can't really find another way to express it but you clap because it's what your body tells you what to do. I shouldn't even be explaining this. It's what movies can do. It's part of the experience.

But I guess I have a lower intelligence level since I like to express my excitement and emotion to the thing that is in front of me. Oh well. But I guess next time I'll remember not to clap when I enjoy myself.
 
I honestly felt more emotion when Coulson died than any moment in the TDKR. All three times I saw it in theaters, the audience literally went silent; you could hear a pin drop. And this from the same movie that generated more applause than any I have ever attended.

I saw Avengers three times as well, but Coulson's death did nothing to any of the crowds. It was just a scene and didn't pack anything towards any of the three audiences. It was surprising to see for me, but the scene wasn't anything too emotional for any of the three crowds. Really, the only memorable thing from my viewings were cheers, nothing more. At least I heard gasps and a few tears were witnessed during the viewings for TDKR.
 
I like Caine, but I got sick of all his crying. I swear every other scene was him bubbling like a schoolgirl. I wish he had shown his emotional range without constantly resorting to tears. Once is okay, but c'mon.

Caine had three emotional scenes, but I didn't mind. Alfred's demeanor changed significantly due to Bruce's willingness to face his possible demise. I guess it was the straw that finally broke the camel's back.
 
I saw Avengers three times as well, but Coulson's death did nothing to any of the crowds. It was just a scene and didn't pack anything towards any of the three audiences. It was surprising to see for me, but the scene wasn't anything too emotional for any of the three crowds. Really, the only memorable thing from my viewings were cheers, nothing more. At least I heard gasps and a few tears were witnessed during the viewings for TDKR.

Your experience is pretty much the opposite of what I had. The Coulson scene affected almost everyone I was around. People talked about how sad and shocking it was in the lobby, and so forth. I heard sooo many people groan during the last thirty minutes of TDKR. One fan in particular made it clear a couple of times how ridiculous he thought the ending was, yelling out "Oh come on" when the Robin thing was announced. Even though I coincidentally rolled my eyes at the film nearly everytime he was vocal, I found it beyond annoying.

Then again, TDKR was a polarizing movie where those who didn't like sure love to be vocal about it. I would say that 3/4th of chatter on opening night were positive so the general consensus was good besides a couple loud morons. Never heard gasps or tears though. I honestly have no idea what moment of the film supposedly made some fans have tear jerking moments.

Definitely had the same experience as you did in terms of having the Avengers generating way more applause then TDKR, but then that was the nature/goal of the film.
 
But that was the goal of the film, to feature it on the characters and why they got together, etc. IMO if the film introduced new villains or had a more complex plot, the film would have fell off a little bit.

I honestly felt more emotion when Coulson died than any moment in the TDKR. All three times I saw it in theaters, the audience literally went silent; you could hear a pin drop. And this from the same movie that generated more applause than any I have ever attended.

I really struggle to see how anyone could have been affected by Coulson's death, it felt so freakin random.

Plus if the rumour of him not quite being dead turn out to be true it becomes pointless.
 
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Come on man... Batman actually die? At the end of the day, the hero wins. I know I was pretty convinced but in retrospect... with these things, it's about the tension and uncertainty within the moment. If they can make me forget about franchises and sequels and have me focus in that moment of peril, then I'm set.

Point is we still weren't 100% sure were we?
 
The following is my opinion. I wrote a more well thought out, cohesive review for my town's paper and got twice as many mail in total than for any review in my three years working there combined. These are just my thoughts, and while I respect the general consensus of the film, I disagree with a majority of it.

With that said, my number two disappointing film would have to be TDKR. I knew it wouldn't be as good as TDK, but I didn't expect to find it to be the black sheep of the trilogy and well as the red headed stepchild of Nolan's entire filmography.

With that said it was a good film, but had WAY to many flaws for me to ever considered great. Nolan's characters have never really stroke a chord with me, but Caine and Oldman have been an exception. So needless to say I was a little upset that Blake, Dagget, and Foley took much of their screen time. Dagget didn't need to be on the screen as much as he did, and the Foley side plot was focused on way too much. Hathaway was the closest thing I've gotten to having a female character from Nolan that I enjoyed, but I never really found the character to be that engaging. It might have been that her character arc was predictable from the start, but I just didn't like her nearly as much as most people who praised her have.

Honestly I didn't care for Blake to much either. Even my good friends who liked the film less than I did thought he was the best character, but I don't see it. [BLACKOUT]The story needed more Bruce Wayne/Batman not some character whose every scene was clearly constructed to help establish himself as the successor. Maybe it was just pre-release chatter, but it was obvious right from the start which direction they wanted to take the character in. I also thought his deduction of Bruce's identity was eye roll worthy. [/BLACKOUT]

Besides his voice which they could have made more menacing I loved Bane in this-but seriously imagine Darth Vador with Bane's voice, I just couldn't wrap myself around how silly it was. But his entire character was ruined for me with the end finale. For me it completely destroyed everything I felt for this villain, and as a fan of every movie Nolan has done, I believe it to be one of the worst decisions he has made. Not only did the now infamous "reveal" undermine his character, but his demise was completely anti-climatic. I've never rolled my eyes during a Nolan film, but I did just that four or five times for this one.

[BLACKOUT] Like Blake, the entire angle of "Talia" was way to obvious for me. The close up of the scar, Bruce sleeping with a chick who otherwise had about as much presence as Morgan Freeman, I saw through it right away. Again, my subconscious may have been recalling earlier internet rumors, but that really doesn't take away from the fact. [/BLACKOUT] The movie would have been much better without her involvement. SIDE NOTE: Can anyone recall a movie that had more rumors and predictions come true?

Ironically, my favorite act was the second; the only part of the movie that those who loved it generally feel was the weakest. The prison scenes were excellent, albeit mostly improbable. The motivation to lose the rope while on the climb was pure Nolan brilliance. Loved how the prison pit was a direct sendoff of the well Bruce fell in from Batman Begins. For all of it's obvious flaws, the movie did a great job of keeping in tune with the theme of "Why do we fall."

I'm not one of "those guys" who claims this film had plotholes or anything. It honestly just underwhelmed me. I still hold TDK is the best CMB of all time, and Nolan is clearly one of the best directors in the biz. Yeah I was more excited to see The Avengers, but I still thought that TDKR would have gotten much better acclaim from critics and audiences, so I was surprised that wasn't necessarily the case. But even the little things I loved about the first two weren't there. In fact it was the opposite. I thought having the climax in the day made the contrast between Batman's black costume looked as ridiculous as Captain America, and so on. The imagery of this film in particular just wasn't as memorable/epic as the first two were.

I'd give the film a 6 or 7 overall because there was a lot I liked. But even with all the flaws, I can't get around how horrible I thought the ending was. I don't think I could ever rate this movie any higher than a 7 for that fact alone. Definitely one of the top ten trilogies of all time, but this and to a lesser extent BB make it a tough sell to rank it along with Star Wars, LOTR, and the Dollars trilogy.
 
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Your experience is pretty much the opposite of what I had. The Coulson scene affected almost everyone I was around. People talked about how sad and shocking it was in the lobby, and so forth. I heard sooo many people groan during the last thirty minutes of TDKR. One fan in particular made it clear a couple of times how ridiculous he thought the ending was, yelling out "Oh come on" when the Robin thing was announced. Even though I coincidentally rolled my eyes at the film nearly everytime he was vocal, I found it beyond annoying.

People can be very different. We definitely had different crowds for TDKR and Avengers, haha. All five times I've seen TDKR had the same feeling from the first viewing and brought in a lot of cheers and tears, and nothing like "oh come on" or what have you. Didn't even know the Robin reveal was a "oh come on" moment. The Coulson death was always the same with each viewing as well, just a scene to look at but nothing very powerful in getting the audience's attention. In terms of really bringing out emotion, I'd say Loki in Germany felt much more powerful.

Then again, TDKR was a polarizing movie where those who didn't like sure love to be vocal about it. I would say that 3/4th of chatter on opening night were positive so the general consensus was good besides a couple loud morons. Never heard gasps or tears though. I honestly have no idea what moment of the film supposedly made some fans have tear jerking moments.

The ending was a major tear jerker. The ending of a magnificent trilogy, the ending of a great film.

Definitely had the same experience as you did in terms of having the Avengers generating way more applause then TDKR, but then that was the nature/goal of the film.

Now I didn't say Avengers had more applause, lol. My first viewing for Avengers had applause at the end and the other two times had only cheers throughout certain parts of the film while the first three viewings of TDKR had an applause at the end.
 
People can be very different. We definitely had different crowds for TDKR and Avengers, haha. All five times I've seen TDKR had the same feeling from the first viewing and brought in a lot of cheers and tears, and nothing like "oh come on" or what have you. Didn't even know the Robin reveal was a "oh come on" moment. The Coulson death was always the same with each viewing as well, just a scene to look at but nothing very powerful in getting the audience's attention. In terms of really bringing out emotion, I'd say Loki in Germany felt much more powerful.



The ending was a major tear jerker. The ending of a magnificent trilogy, the ending of a great film.



Now I didn't say Avengers had more applause, lol. My first viewing for Avengers had applause at the end and the other two times had only cheers throughout certain parts of the film while the first three viewings of TDKR had an applause at the end.

Looking at your sig, I see that Zssaz was in the trilogy. What scene/movie was he in? Just played both Arkham games and I never heard of him previously, but my lord was he incredibly freaky!
 
Batman Begins. He was a butcher for the mob that was transferred from prison to Arkham Asylum in a deal with Crane and Falcone to transport all of Falcone's men in prison to Arkham.

He was sane in BB though, not insane as he is in the comics.
 
Besides his voice which they could have made more menacing I loved Bane in this-but seriously imagine Darth Vador with Bane's voice, I just couldn't wrap myself around how silly it was. But his entire character was ruined for me with the end finale. For me it completely destroyed everything I felt for this villain, and as a fan of every movie Nolan has done, I believe it to be one of the worst decisions he has made. Not only did the now infamous "reveal" undermine his character, but his demise was completely anti-climatic. I've never rolled my eyes during a Nolan film, but I did just that four or five times for this one.

Bane's voice was the key to his menacing actions -- it was stoic and imperial (as opposed to the typical tough guy or monstrous voice for a villain). I loved it. The voice reminded me of a crossbreed between Shredder and a classic Bond villain. The accent also added a certain charm and style to Bane (along with his outfits). To me, the voice only contributed to a fantastic and memorable villain.

As a big Bane fan, I have trouble comprehending your issue with his 'reveal' scene. It was methodical and high-octane. I will concede to his exit, however. It was very anti-climatic, but so was Loki's and the Chitauri's.

When coming to Selina Kyle, I'm sorry you didn't find her appealing and addictive. Anne Hathaway and The Nolans did a stellar job in creating Catwoman for this arc. The character was extremely well-done (although limited), and the execution was near perfect. Similar to 2008, alot of individuals who resorted to early criticisms (based on the casting) ate crow.
 
Hathaway is a talented and versatale actress who did something with that role that not many actresses would have and with skill that probably made actresses around her age jealous. The movie itself failed her by not intigrating her character in the story enough but she came out looking way better than Marion and Hardy. The former was wasted in a nothing role that shouldn't have existed and the latter was failed by terrible ADR, one not being able to understand him 50% of the time and the poorly done plot twist. I think Bale JGL and Hataway came out smelling like roses but the rest of the cast? Nah.
 
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